Screenplays That Get Changed By A Studio

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How often, and badly, do screenplays get changed, or butchered, by a studio after they get their hands on it? I mean, after you've slaved and sweated over a screenplay and got lucky enough to sell it, when does the producer get in there and say, "Okay, let's change this," and the artsy director gets in there and says, "This is MY vision of your story," and some other writers get in there and booger up everything you wrote, until what shows up on screen is nothing like you wrote. Suddenly, what could have been a good, or even great motion picture, becomes another piece of formulaic trash, with your name attached to it in the credits! Even though most of what was spoken on that screen was never put down on paper by you. And how do you avoid this from happening to yor work? Some years ago, I read the screenplay for Twister. I also saw the movie, and it was very different from the screenplay in many ways. Yes, there were some sceens that were the same, but it was drastically changed. Some things were good changes, but overall, the original screenplay seemed far superior to the final film.
 

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From what I've heard, it's normal and to be expected for producers/investors to demand changes to a script. A standard option agreement includes two rewrites to the director's satisfaction. It's part of the job. And yes, I expect plenty of screenplays get rewritten almost beyond recognition after optioning.

I'm working with producers for the first time right now and I've been pleasantly surprised in a few ways. One, they said 'We think the script's ready to go just as it is. If we can improve these minor points it'll be a bonus, but if not, that's fine'. Two, I'm actually finding myself a lot more willing to keep changing and improving the script than I ever thought I'd be. They and I share the same essential vision for the script - that's important (there was one minor disagreement early on but I fought my corner carefully and brought them round) - and we can build on that vision collaboratively. In discussing the script's weaknesses with them, I've found ways to strengthen it that don't compromise what I want for the script at all.

I'm sure I'm lucky. I'm sure writers, producers and directors don't always agree and are not always willing to compromise. But don't be too afraid to keep your script moving. If given the opportunity, I'm sure a writer will get more out of creative collaboration than trying to stick to every word he's written. A script is a living thing and a film is a collaborative project. It'll keep on changing until the film is cut together.
 

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Screenplays are dynamic, living things. As a writer, it is only natural to have many edits. One can learn what does and doesn't work through readings or input from others, as might be expected. Sometimes, it could take until the production process to realize something does not quite work.

The expectation that a script will not be changed at all assumes that the script is perfect. In just about every case, it is not perfect. Making a movie is a collaborative process. It doesn't just involve a writer, it doesn't just involve a director and it doesn't just involve actors. All of the aforementioned, and others, could bring useful elements to a movie.

The key when making a movie - or at least the ideal situation - is to have a collaborative group that is trusting of each other's judgements because they are all on the same page. Or, at least they don't have starkly different viewpoints. When I made my first movie, it turned me off of writing to a degree because of the amount of changes that occurred. However, I was responsible for some of those changes. Simultaneously, others brought good changes to the table and they improved the movie. I think it is necessary to be open to changes.

Another key in this process is to not let the thought of pre-production or production changes stifle the writing process. After Charlie Kaufman directed Synechdoche New York (his directorial debut), he realized he had to learn to keep his directing thoughts out of his writer's mind. In other words, he couldn't think about directing (the production process) while writing. I think this is important.

So, while you may wonder how aspects of your screenplay are going to be changed, I would like to suggest "don't." It's rather pointless at that stage and may only stifle you. I hope this helps.
 

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How often, and badly, do screenplays get changed, or butchered, by a studio after they get their hands on it? I mean, after you've slaved and sweated over a screenplay and got lucky enough to sell it, when does the producer get in there and say, "Okay, let's change this," and the artsy director gets in there and says, "This is MY vision of your story," and some other writers get in there and booger up everything you wrote, until what shows up on screen is nothing like you wrote. Suddenly, what could have been a good, or even great motion picture, becomes another piece of formulaic trash, with your name attached to it in the credits! Even though most of what was spoken on that screen was never put down on paper by you. And how do you avoid this from happening to yor work? Some years ago, I read the screenplay for Twister. I also saw the movie, and it was very different from the screenplay in many ways. Yes, there were some sceens that were the same, but it was drastically changed. Some things were good changes, but overall, the original screenplay seemed far superior to the final film.

That a screenplay is rewritten?

Virtually always.

That it's 'badly rewritten' -- that also can happen frequently. While most contracts call for a rewrite and a polish, for every contractually mandated rewrite, there are generally, two, three, four, or half a dozen drafts that are "off the books" -- drafts that writers do that aren't contracted for and for which they don't get paid.

This is one of those open secrets that pretty much everybody in the industry knows about, the guild knows about it -- but the brutal fact is, if a writer refuses to do these free drafts, then he's a considered to be a "difficult" writer and he doesn't get hired.

Beyond that, it's quite common -- far common than not, for scripts to have multiple writers, even if they are not ultimately credited. The process by which writers receive credit -- which writers and how many writers, is one that is controlled by the guild and one of the guild rules states that no matter how many writers work on a project -- and there can be five, ten, or any number of writers, only three writers (or writing teams) can receive on screen credit.

A fairly byzantine process of evaluating who contributed what percentage of the material to the final draft of the screenplay (as opposed to the final version of the movie) is what determines who gets that final credit.

As to what can be done? Unless you are the also the director or the producer or have a close personal relationship with one or the other, (and sometimes even that won't help) there really isn't anything you can do about it.

It's not your money making the movie and once you sell the script, it's no longer your script. You no longer have any rights to it. It belongs to them and they can do whatever they want to it. In fact, if they pay you above a certain amount, you don't even have the right (under guild rules) to take your name off of it.

Now, you may ask why the Director has the right to take his name off of a project but not the writer.

The same way that the director's royalties are enormously larger that the writer's royalties on a movie.

That's because the DGA is a much more powerful union the WGA.

Because directors are much more powerful that writers.

NMS
 

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Very interesting information. As of now, this story is in it's infant stages as a novel manuscript. My ulitmate goal, however, would be to see it turned into a film based on my novel, but that is way, way down the road, years away. And I may never get to that point. I had visions of doing this as a straight screenplay, but I think I'd rather go the long way via the publishing route and then hopefully a request for a screenplay version. In any case, I'd have to collaborate with a pro screenwriter. Screenwriting is a skill set that I am not familiar with. At least not at this point in time.
 

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Very interesting information. As of now, this story is in it's infant stages as a novel manuscript. My ulitmate goal, however, would be to see it turned into a film based on my novel, but that is way, way down the road, years away. And I may never get to that point. I had visions of doing this as a straight screenplay, but I think I'd rather go the long way via the publishing route and then hopefully a request for a screenplay version. In any case, I'd have to collaborate with a pro screenwriter. Screenwriting is a skill set that I am not familiar with. At least not at this point in time.

Even if you write a successful novel it is extremely likely your screenplay will be written by someone else and I mean completely: structure, dialogue, characters, what's left in and what's left out may be very different to the book. Books are great for control. With screenplays, you have to accept that even if you get to write it it'll be changed, possibly beyond recognition and even genre.

I've just finished work on a screenplay commissioned by producers which was a page one rewrite of a story that had already gone through 44 drafts and was still IMHO unreadable. I couldn't quite believe it had been through the number of drafts it had but there you go. They all went in the bin (trash). The unused writers will have a 'developed by' credit buried in the end roller but no writing credit as they have not written one word, phrase or character name in the new script. They've all been paid off however so they haven't done that badly.
 

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Yeah, I got busy and haven't been back here for a bit. So then let's say I get my manuscript published, and it does at least well enough for a studio to get interested in a film version of my novel. And out I whip my own screenplay for that novel, which I did while my novel was getting published (heh, heh, heh!!) I have to surrender MY story to these guys and loose ALL control over it? So they can change everything about it and I can't say squat? I think I'd rather not give them the right to make my story into a film, unless I retain some kind of creative control over the process. Meaning, I want that director's ear, or (How's this for boldness?) give me the director's chair. I mean who else could know how he wants each and every scene filmed and every line of dialogue to be spoken than the person who has been dreaming about it for as long as I have and wrote the darned thing? Okay, it's audacious, but a guy can have his dreams, right?:D
 
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I have to surrender MY story to these guys and loose ALL control over it? So they can change everything about it and I can't say squat?
Of course you can say squat. You can say lots of things.

If you sell your car to someone else - you can complain all you like when the new owner decides to rip out the old engine and put a new one in.

But complaining is all you can do - you've sold the car to them. That's what 'sold' means.

If you've sold your story for a film - the new owners can do what they want with the film version. That's what 'sold' means. The book version will always be true to your vision - but you've given up the rights to the film version in exchange for a wad of cash.

If you don't want to make the exchange then don't do it. It's as simple as that.

Mac
 
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Of course you can say squat. You can say lots of things.

If you sell your car to someone else - you can complain all you like when the new owner decides to rip out the old engine and put a new one in.

But complaining is all you can do - you've sold the car to them That's what 'sold' means.

If you've sold your story for a film - the new owners can do what they want with the film version. That's what 'sold' means. The book version will always be true to your vision - but you've given up the rights to the film version in exchange for a wad of cash.

If you don't want to make the exchange then don't do it. It's as simple as that.

Mac

Well said. :)
 

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I know. That last message of mine was tongue in cheek humor. My ms hasn't even gotten looked at by an agent let alone get published or even as far as a consideration for a screenplay. I would love to see it as a film one day, but I certainly would hate to see it completely changed into something that even I as the writer would find unrecognizable. Thanks for the insights into how things work in the industry, however.
 

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One last comment particularly to Whacko's blog entry. I think I'll just hope that my ms makes it to print and stop there. I don't think I could stomach the kind of mish mash to my story that that Robin Hood script went through. That's exactly what my point and fear was when I started this thread. Thanks, Whacko.
 

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I mean who else could know how he wants each and every scene filmed and every line of dialogue to be spoken than the person who has been dreaming about it for as long as I have and wrote the darned thing?

With all due respect, you know how each and every scene should be filmed? Have you directed a movie before? Do you plan on editing the shots as well? Are you going to act in it so you can deliver those lines of dialogue the way they're meant to be spoken? Hey, you could be the lighting person too! Why not play every character!?! That'd be sweet. I say you perform every task on the movie cast and crew - how awesomely accurate the vision would be!
 

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:DHeh, heh, heh. Just having a little fun here, that's all. No way I'm serious about that. But it would be cool to direct a film.
 

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Yeah, I got busy and haven't been back here for a bit. So then let's say I get my manuscript published, and it does at least well enough for a studio to get interested in a film version of my novel. And out I whip my own screenplay for that novel, which I did while my novel was getting published (heh, heh, heh!!) I have to surrender MY story to these guys and loose ALL control over it? So they can change everything about it and I can't say squat? I think I'd rather not give them the right to make my story into a film, unless I retain some kind of creative control over the process. Meaning, I want that director's ear, or (How's this for boldness?) give me the director's chair. I mean who else could know how he wants each and every scene filmed and every line of dialogue to be spoken than the person who has been dreaming about it for as long as I have and wrote the darned thing? Okay, it's audacious, but a guy can have his dreams, right?:D

What it really boils down to is how many million dollars are you risking versus how many million dollars the money men are risking.

And, frankly, no matter how you want it filmed, no matter how you want the dialogue spoken, just doesn't mean much until and unless you get a heck of a lot more clout than new screenwriters have. Like anything else, you have to earn the right to stand firm.

Put yourself in their shoes. You have millions at stake. Are you going to side with an unknown writer who says "Leave everything the hell alone", or a proven writer and/or a proven director who says "This needs to be changed."

It will be changed. Probably drastically.
 

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Screenplays that get changed by a studio

:DHeh, heh, heh. Just having a little fun here, that's all. No way I'm serious about that. But it would be cool to direct a film.

Don't trash your dream just because it may seem unrealistic. Just keep it in your head, AND be realistic. That way, if you are offered an opportunity that gives you more control over your work, you will be in the right state of mind to take advantage of it. If you don't dream, then your dreams can can't true, right?

There's a lot said about how "you sell it, its theirs". And, sometimes, screenwriters may be able to get contracts that give them more than the normal rights over their scripts. So, don't forget what you'd really want, keep it in mind. Then, be realistic when dealing with the industry. Using this two pronged approach might get you a better deal when you are offered one.

Good luck to you!