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Erotic comics, graphic novels, screenplays?

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Start date Jan 17, 2011

sunandshadow

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Has anyone done anything with erotica in a non-prose medium? I've wanted for quite a while to get into erotic graphic novels, but I haven't had any luck finding an artist to work with, and I can't afford to hire one outright and hope I make the money back selling the book. I'd love to write the script for an erotic fantasy movie, but from what I've heard no one produces those in the US, only porn movies with minimal plots, minimal sets/costumes, and shoestring budgets.

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I haven't seen anything like this, sorry. But Kuwi might be able to help you out, if he comes in here. He reads Manga, which has a lot of erotic elements, I think.

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Several artists are named here:
http://www.carmenicadiaz.net/FemDom_Bookshop_Adult_Comics.html

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Satori1977 said:
I haven't seen anything like this, sorry. But Kuwi might be able to help you out, if he comes in here. He reads Manga, which has a lot of erotic elements, I think.

Lol. Manga just means comics made in Japan (and the art style they are drawn in). While there are erotic ones, there are far more that are for teenagers and don't go beyond anything you'd see in a pg-15 movie, not to mention some that are for young children and have no sexual innuendo at all.

As an English speaker living in the US, any comic I would be involved in creating would presumably be published in the US, in English, although it might possibly use a manga art style (I like that style, or some varieties of it anyway).

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dangerousbill said:
Several artists are named here:
http://www.carmenicadiaz.net/FemDom_Bookshop_Adult_Comics.html

Interesting how much of that is art made with poser rather than drawn. I've wondered several times whether I ought to get that program to play with.

It's questionable whether the artist of a fem-dom genre story would want to work on the stuff I do (m/m, m/m/f, pregnancy, hermaphrodites, aliens or fantasy races...) Also most professional artists are insulted if you ask them to do something with no up-front pay. And the up-front pay rate for comic pages is something like $50 a page (ouch).

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sunandshadow said:
Lol. Manga just means comics made in Japan (and the art style they are drawn in). While there are erotic ones, there are far more that are for teenagers and don't go beyond anything you'd see in a pg-15 movie, not to mention some that are for young children and have no sexual innuendo at all.

As an English speaker living in the US, any comic I would be involved in creating would presumably be published in the US, in English, although it might possibly use a manga art style (I like that style, or some varieties of it anyway).

Oh sorry. Whenever I hear it mentioned, it sounds like a sexual thing. I have never looked at one, not really my thing. I have read a few graphic novels, but am very picky about them. Most I can't get into.

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If you're looking for examples, check out:

Xxxenophile by Phile Foglio--excellent series of humerous short stories where sex and eroticism play center stage.

Omaha: The Cat Dancer by Waller and Worley--fantastic soap-opera-esque series that is straight-up drama that uses furries and ample sex to tell a mostly non-campy story.

Blacksad by Juan Diaz Canales--Crime noir with some very adult themes.

Lost Girls by Alan Moore--Superstar Moore's foray into the...private...parts of his brain.

If you're looking for publishers, try Eros or Amerotica

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sunandshadow said:
It's questionable whether the artist of a fem-dom genre story would want to work on the stuff I do (m/m, m/m/f, pregnancy, hermaphrodites, aliens or fantasy races...)

It costs nothing to ask. You might get the name of a struggling artist who's willing to work for future benefits. My son did a graphic novel that way. I think they ended up just breaking even, with no pay for anyone.

Consider that if poser were used to create the images, they could then be traced using a lightbox to create your own style, even if you're not a very good artist. I've done figures that way, drawing from photographs or other images (but not for graphic novels).

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sunandshadow said:
Lol. Manga just means comics made in Japan (and the art style they are drawn in). While there are erotic ones, there are far more that are for teenagers and don't go beyond anything you'd see in a pg-15 movie, not to mention some that are for young children and have no sexual innuendo at all.

As an English speaker living in the US, any comic I would be involved in creating would presumably be published in the US, in English, although it might possibly use a manga art style (I like that style, or some varieties of it anyway).

Satori1977 said:
Oh sorry. Whenever I hear it mentioned, it sounds like a sexual thing. I have never looked at one, not really my thing. I have read a few graphic novels, but am very picky about them. Most I can't get into.

Manga ranges from children's stuff to adult stuff. Most of what gets translated in the West is either a popular series that got an anime or hentai.

I don't know any artists, though. But I imagine if you found one who was a fan of manga, he or she'd be more open minded to the erotic stuff.

I do think the manga-style art lends itself better to erotic material. Whenever I see erotic Western-comic-style art, it always looks more weird to me than sexy.*

Of course, they're both Western styles... anime and manga adopted their art style from Walt Disney.

*I refer more to comic book art than graphic novel art, which tends to have a lot more variety — at least from what I've seen.

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kuwisdelu said:
Of course, they're both Western styles... anime and manga adopted their art style from Walt Disney.

You think so? I think if you look at Ukiyo-e (traditional Japanese art) you can see that it heavily influenced manga/anime style. But one of the nice things about the global inter-connectedness of the modern world is an artist has access to the who world's art history and can draw on the traditions of different times and places to form their own unique style.

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dangerousbill said:
It costs nothing to ask. You might get the name of a struggling artist who's willing to work for future benefits. My son did a graphic novel that way. I think they ended up just breaking even, with no pay for anyone.

That's cool that they actually got one made, although I'm chuckling at the fact that barely breaking even is probably what would happen to me.

Consider that if poser were used to create the images, they could then be traced using a lightbox to create your own style, even if you're not a very good artist. I've done figures that way, drawing from photographs or other images (but not for graphic novels).

Hmm that's true. I actually can draw, but no one ever likes my work, I can't see going through the huge amount of work required to make a graphic novel just to get a response of "this is too ugly to be sexy".

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Consider going to erotic art forums and posting an ad for an artist to work with. An up an coming artist might love the chance to illustrate a comic and maybe share any profits. If nothing else they get something to put in their portfolio.

A Google search for "erotic art forums" turned up several possibilities.

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