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The official site to get the PDF! Also, Nikki Finke's Deadline hosts the list leading to a fun discussion here.
Much more high concept this year - some that stood out for me include a Blair Witch-style trip to the moon and a romcom centered around wife swapping. On the other hand, there's a lot of teen / lowbrow comedies that all look absolutely awful. What do you guys think of this year's listing?
 

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It makes me think that logline writing has become a lost art.
I see a few that might make good movies.
Buried was on last years list.
(Not that I thought that was a great movie)
Movies have taken a decidedly grizzly turn, of late, and that's a shame. I write family oriented sp's, to this point, and plan to continue in that vein. Many of the novice sp's I've read in the last year are loaded with dysfunctional families, especially the wise ass kids that young screenwriters imagine as entertainment.
(Though, seeing Rove as the number one subject on the list, I guess wise ass IS a good way to go.)
When I have a bit more time, I'd love to delve.
 

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Thanks for the link. I knew what the blacklist was, but this is the first I'm seeing one as it's coming out.

Now maybe I'm 1 part green to this industry and 2 parts a cynic, but lord do alot of those just sound blasé/uninspired and mucho regurgitated. Maybe cause I primarily write comedy or derivatives of, I did see a couple in that vein that perked my interest, but little else.
The Ricky Stanicky (which i guess Franco is doing?) and Are We Officially Dating? tickled me with their concepts, and the Last son of Isaac Lemay or whatever could be interesting if it's not too linear and campy.


I'm very new to loglines and how to write one that effectively does what it's intended to, but this one screams "what..."
GET A JOB by Kyle Pennekamp & Scott Turpel
“A comedy about a father and son struggling to find a job in the current job market.”

I mean is that it? Is that supposed to get it done? Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's just empty in the purest way.
 

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“A comedy about a father and son struggling to find a job in the current job market.”
I'm very new to loglines and how to write one that effectively does what it's intended to, but this one screams "what..."


I mean is that it? Is that supposed to get it done? Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's just empty in the purest way.

About as exciting as "A mother makes dinner for her children and they don't eat their peas. Comedy ensues."
 

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It makes me think that logline writing has become a lost art.
I see a few that might make good movies.
Well, bear in mind the original author's loglines are rewritten for the list's purposes. Most likely by the agent or her/his assistant. What the real hook of the concept is, or the meat of the script itself is, remain to be seen. (After the $15 million Fox lawsuit it's obvious this material is going to be under much tighter wraps than ever before.) ETA though this is more aimed at Paradis' comment, it holds true as well.
Movies have taken a decidedly grizzly turn, of late, and that's a shame. I write family oriented sp's, to this point, and plan to continue in that vein. Many of the novice sp's I've read in the last year are loaded with dysfunctional families, especially the wise ass kids that young screenwriters imagine as entertainment.
(Though, seeing Rove as the number one subject on the list, I guess wise ass IS a good way to go.)
When I have a bit more time, I'd love to delve.
The irony is that the only movies that are bringing in the big money per Box Office Mojo are family oriented. Yet the kind of people who greenlight movies at that level are so out of touch with real families and the kind of entertainment they want it's not even funny. If you have a more genteel approach to writing family scripts, I'd recommend digging HCD for very low budget studios that do that - direct to DVD or cable level. Or film it yourself if you're at all able to. The Black List Club is so exclusive, basing your career on making it in there is impractical.
My opinion, that's all.
 

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thats a good bit of advice- if making the blacklist is your primary and only goal- then wake up..

unfortunately, i don't think i could leave my day job/life at the calling of writing stuff like pseudo-disney family adventure pieces. I know thats sort pigeon holing myself, and even the big paid writers get asked to do projects that aren't within their desired scope of creativity.. but still. Gotta follow the trail of passion on this one.
 

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Thanks for the link. I knew what the blacklist was, but this is the first I'm seeing one as it's coming out.

Now maybe I'm 1 part green to this industry and 2 parts a cynic, but lord do alot of those just sound blasé/uninspired and mucho regurgitated. Maybe cause I primarily write comedy or derivatives of, I did see a couple in that vein that perked my interest, but little else.
The Ricky Stanicky (which i guess Franco is doing?) and Are We Officially Dating? tickled me with their concepts, and the Last son of Isaac Lemay or whatever could be interesting if it's not too linear and campy.


I'm very new to loglines and how to write one that effectively does what it's intended to, but this one screams "what..."


I mean is that it? Is that supposed to get it done? Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's just empty in the purest way.

What you have to understand is that, while everyone touts the value of loglines as such around here, spec scripts by established writers with agents don't get sold on "official" loglines like this one.

While a logline like the one you site might pop up in a cover letter or in the blacklist, the way the project gets read and marketed consists of an agent calling up execs at various companies and studios -- people that he knows and people who are, as a rule, already familiar with the work of the writer or writers in question and the agent gives a brief pitch of the script and sort of "pre-sells" it over the phone.

So that by the time the script arrives with the cover letter attached the logline is really just something to tickle the exec in question -- to sort of remind him of the conversation in which the agent already told him what the project was about.

Plus, the script will generally get covered internally and whoever covers it is going to write his own logline on the cover sheet of the coverage -- and that's the logline that everybody at any given company is going to be reading anyway - not the writer's logline or the agent's logline.

So on some level what matters is -- has the agent made the script sound appealing to the exec? Are the writers in question hot? That is, do they have a movie about to come out that has positive buzz, or has a movie of theirs recently come out that's been very successful?

If either of those things is true the logline could read, "A loaf of bread bakes slowly in an oven for two hours" and everybody will at least want to take a look at it.

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hah, fair enough and ya when you put it that way, makes sense. Certainly the way loglines are spoken about around here, it appeared as though some of those were guilty of a cardinal sin.
 

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I give up. What is this Blacklist? I'm staring at it but I don't know what it is.
 

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It is a list of excellent UNPRODUCED screenplays. Screenplays that have made the rounds of studio execs, and for one reason or another - didn't get picked up. Randall Leonard (DevExec) at Universal started the list - now people are getting deals from being on it. (No, you can't get on it - you already have to be circulating for coverage basically) But its a great place to read terrific scripts that people 'passed over'.

So - if you want to read scripts that are good enough to get passed around the studios, and pushed 'up' to the next level - but fall just short of making it - read these. It will give you an idea of what's 'current' in various approaches.

He composes the list by asking 'insiders' - friends and associates in the biz - 'What's the best script you have read this year - that you were excited about, but didn't get made?' Being on the list - means people pay a second, closer attention. In a biz where everyone is frightened of saying "Yes" - seeing a script on the list is tacit implication that others think it's pretty damn good too. Sort of 'uber coverage' if you will.
 

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I'm very new to loglines and how to write one that effectively does what it's intended to, but this one screams
GET A JOB by Kyle Pennekamp & Scott Turpel “A comedy about a father and son struggling to find a job in the current job market.”
I mean is that it? Is that supposed to get it done? Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but that's just empty in the purest way.
If it turns out like a certain movie described as "A man and his son search for a stolen bicycle vital for his job" then it could be a very fine movie.
 

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Greetings! Yes I understand that the Randall Leonard from Universal Studios "Black List" exists, and that's great... but, does a real "black list" exist of unwanted screenwriters that is privy only to industry pros where a screenwriter can try and try to be produced but not know they were long ago put on some real black list?
 

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Well it's an unfortunate name because it harkens back to the red-scare 'blacklist' of writers in the fifties through the sixties. SO yeah... I'm kind of ambivalent about the tongue in cheek title of the CURRENT 'black list'.

As far as I know, no such 'list of black-balled' writers exists in current day.

That I'm aware of.

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