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Is it a good idea to submit a kid`s picture book to an e book publisher?
I know mostly all kid books at least the picture books are normally in print. Would I be doing my self a favor for doing this . Should it be a last resort as compared to a book printing publisher?
 

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How many kids have e-readers? How many kindergarten classrooms? first grade classrooms? kids rooms in libraries?

I know some think e-books are the future - and maybe they are - but picture books will be the last frontier. You can't use them in schools or most libraries, and few adults allow their kids to use their e-readers.

So...why would you submit a picture book to a publisher that can't possibly make it widely available for children?

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suki's right. They are the last frontier. Maybe someday, when ereaders can all show color....

There are publishing houses that take PBs without agent representation. Go here for a list (The Children's Book Council) : http://www.cbcbooks.org/about/ourmembers

or get hold of a recent copy of The Children's Writer's And Illustrator's Market.
 

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I spoke to the e-book publisher and they mentioned offering a print option too. Would that make it worth while?
 

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I spoke to the e-book publisher and they mentioned offering a print option too. Would that make it worth while?

Only if the book will actually be stocked in stores - ie, distributed AND carried by major stores. Because people tend to buy PBs on recommendation or because they actually flip through it and like it. So, if it's not in stores, it will not likely sell.

And most major stores stock few PBs from even small presses, let alone micros presses or primarily e-pubs.

And, and FYI, it's my understanding that to even be considered for stocking by the large chain bookstores, PBs need to be bound with a spine - most small and micro presses will not do that because of the production costs.

So...do your research - go to stores and libraries and see if you can find any of the publisher's books on the shelves. But being POD or available online only will likely not move many picture books.


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I would be a little concerned by an epublisher that took children's picture books in the first place, since the market is practically non-existent. Parents generally don't want their little ones too close to a computer or ereader. Have you checked them out on BR&BC?

Print options for epubliushers are generally treated like another format (to go with kindle, epub, pdf etc). They're usually sold online only, and to already loyal customers of the publisher.
 

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What is the BR&BC? I asked a lady who recently signed with them how she felt and she stated things were good so far. She submitted a picture book too. I don`t think the print option is POD in the sense that you have to pay a fee to get your work printed. Most small presses I come cross don`t have shelf presence . When I say printed I mean a actual bound book. I only go by people I come across who have worked with the publishers I consider.
 

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What is the BR&BC?

Bewares & Background checks forum. Use the jump menu below (pull down list of forums - click on the forum to go there).

I asked a lady who recently signed with them how she felt and she stated things were good so far. She submitted a picture book too. I don`t think the print option is POD in the sense that you have to pay a fee to get your work printed. Most small presses I come cross don`t have shelf presence . When I say printed I mean a actual bound book. I only go by people I come across who have worked with the publishers I consider.

Honestly, again, unless the book is actually stocked in books stores and purchased by libraries, a picture book is unlikely to sell.

If the book will not be bound to the quality of publishers who regularly publish picture books, and stocked in actual stores, it's not going to sell. People generally buy picture books off the recommendations of store staff, librarians and teachers, and people they know, and by actually browsing bookstores and handling the printed book.

If you are serious about wanting to have your book purchased by people who don't personally know or meet you, then this is not the way to go ;)

There are small presses that accept picture book submissions - but that also have distribution and production experience specific to picture books.

It is very, very unlikely this publisher will be able to print the book to professional picture book quality and distribute it widely.

BUT, if all you care is that people you know can purchase your book, then I'd suggest you actually research reputable self-publishing companies - because you're likely to get a better quality self-publishing it than submitting it to a primarily e-press with limited picture book experience and no means of getting it into stores and libraries.

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About the only e-readers I'd think that would be capable of handling a picture book are something like a laptop or netbook, or even an iPad. Sounds like it'd be too narrow a market to look at.
 

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POD doesn't meant you have to pay a fee to have it printed, it means it's only printed when it's ordered. It stands for Print On Demand. Bookshops, as a rule, don't stock POD books and some chains won't even order them for customers. POD books are often only available online, which presents the similar problems to an ebook when it comes to your target market.
 

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Is it a good idea to submit a kid`s picture book to an e book publisher?
I know mostly all kid books at least the picture books are normally in print. Would I be doing my self a favor for doing this . Should it be a last resort as compared to a book printing publisher?

Not a good idea at all, if you ask me, for the following reasons:

  • Picture book publishing is highly specialised; very few ebook-only publishers are going to have the right skill set.
  • Picture books as EPUB files look ghastly; as PDF they don't fit themselves to device screens (or are tiny on your phone screen); as apps they cost tens of thousands of pounds to develop, so you need a bigger publisher behind you
  • The market for picture ebooks is frankly so murky at the moment, and the revenue so uncertain, you'd be much better off financially with print
 

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I agree. I've never heard of an ebook publisher who wanted children's picture books. It makes them sound clueless. I have a niece who devours picture books . . . literally. She eats them. No way she's getting within three feet of my kindle. I would NEVER buy an e-version of a picture book.
 

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I agree. I've never heard of an ebook publisher who wanted children's picture books. It makes them sound clueless. I have a niece who devours picture books . . . literally. She eats them. No way she's getting within three feet of my kindle. I would NEVER buy an e-version of a picture book.

Well, it'll start looking better, I promise you. For example, before too long you'll see readers aimed directly at kids and made appropriately rugged and chew-friendly. I hope you'll be won over once the picture ebook market is a bit more mature and settled, as it's basically my job! With any luck it's not just the CD-ROM 'revolution' all over again.
 

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I’m going to have to go against the grain and say there is some market for Children’s ebooks … and that’s for use with smart boards. I know this because my girlfriend is a kindergarten teacher who has been looking for digital content for use in her classroom … I also know that many of the new generation of teachers are doing the same.


Anyways … you’ll have to-do your own market research to see just how big of a market there is, but I can tell you there is [FONT=&quot]certainly[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT] a market.
 

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Hi, thought I'd mention that I work as a voice actor and I have narrated several children's picture books and stories for iphone and ipad apps. I have no idea how successful--or not--they've been.

I had a few pictures books I'd written but never got published, and I was interested in possibly publishing this way. One of the groups I work with charges around $800-$900 to convert an existing children's book into an app with voice, sound effects, marketing, promotion etc. So, I'd have to have the manuscript and illustrations to give to this group.
 

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I’m going to have to go against the grain and say there is some market for Children’s ebooks … and that’s for use with smart boards. I know this because my girlfriend is a kindergarten teacher who has been looking for digital content for use in her classroom … I also know that many of the new generation of teachers are doing the same.


Anyways … you’ll have to-do your own market research to see just how big of a market there is, but I can tell you there is [FONT=&quot]certainly[/FONT] a market.

It's pretty much a rights market - AFAIK the people who produce these smartboard books tend to license content from publishers. I am not sure there is an established route into it for independent creators.
 

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Hi, thought I'd mention that I work as a voice actor and I have narrated several children's picture books and stories for iphone and ipad apps. I have no idea how successful--or not--they've been.

I had a few pictures books I'd written but never got published, and I was interested in possibly publishing this way. One of the groups I work with charges around $800-$900 to convert an existing children's book into an app with voice, sound effects, marketing, promotion etc. So, I'd have to have the manuscript and illustrations to give to this group.

I am currently developing iOS picture book apps and would be very interested to hear more details of this - in fact will probably buy an app or two. PM me if you're not comfortable with talking about it on the forum?
 

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Right now it seems the problem with kids and e-readers isn’t for lack of interest, it is the parents who don’t want their kids using them that’s the issue. You can check out the Huffington Post article “Kids Like E-books, Parents Not So Much” by clicking on the link. It lists some survey results, basically summing up that e-readers and kids might not be happening as soon as some would like.​
 

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Right now it seems the problem with kids and e-readers isn’t for lack of interest, it is the parents who don’t want their kids using them that’s the issue. You can check out the Huffington Post article “Kids Like E-books, Parents Not So Much” by clicking on the link. It lists some survey results, basically summing up that e-readers and kids might not be happening as soon as some would like.​

I didn't get that parents didn't want their kids reading ebooks, more that they themselves had no interest in reading ebooks. The stats I've heard (again from a Scholastic US survey, maybe the same one?) were that


  • 25% of kids have read a book on a digital device
  • 57% want to
  • 6& of parents own an e-reader
  • 16% plan to
  • 83% would allow or encourage their kids to own one