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It's probably my fault for signing a crappy contract, but I'm sure they owe me some money. They're belligerent when questioned, but every corporation, person, and identity is these days. I'm sure I have been ripped off but without raising hell it can't be proven. Amazon Shorts owes me money too. Absolute Write itself is not very helpful. The authors and presses on here share elitists attitudes. Everyone is out for themselves. I learned the hard way. Write a better book than the guy next to you and hope it gets in the right hands. That's the way it works. Publish America gets away with what they do because they have money. Absolute Write gets away with being the pesky mosquito to them because they have access to money and media connections. It's a cycle that doesn't end. It's the snake eating it's own tail. Publish America and Absolute Write have their own agendas. There are no good guys here, just two sides who get off on manipulating writers for an agenda.
 

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Absolute Write itself is not very helpful.

Yeah. Darn that AW.

All it does is give new writers help determining what does and doesn't work for them. Allow them access to information about publishers and agents. Give them a place to find beta readers. Provide a forum where new writers can get advice from established ones. Allow access to actual agents who answer specific questions. Help craft decent query letters. Let them blow off steam. Make unpublished aspiring writers equal in voice to best selling authors.

Sheesh, you'd think they'd make an effort or something...

Absolute Write gets away with being the pesky mosquito to them because they have access to money and media connections.

I'm sure Mac will happy to hear that.
 

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It's probably my fault for signing a crappy contract, but I'm sure they owe me some money. They're belligerent when questioned, but every corporation, person, and identity is these days. I'm sure I have been ripped off but without raising hell it can't be proven. Amazon Shorts owes me money too. Absolute Write itself is not very helpful. The authors and presses on here share elitists attitudes. Everyone is out for themselves. I learned the hard way. Write a better book than the guy next to you and hope it gets in the right hands. That's the way it works. Publish America gets away with what they do because they have money. Absolute Write gets away with being the pesky mosquito to them because they have access to money and media connections. It's a cycle that doesn't end. It's the snake eating it's own tail. Publish America and Absolute Write have their own agendas. There are no good guys here, just two sides who get off on manipulating writers for an agenda.


What, pray tell, is my agenda? Other than trying to help people?


I love that everyone here was right about PA all along, even when you insisted we weren't and were a bunch of liars. Now you admit we were right all along but still can't give us any credit for that.

You're like a little boy whose life was saved by someone he didn't like. He's glad his life was saved, but he's just not mature enough to get past his resentment and appreciate what was done for him, or say a proper thank you.



ETA: I wouldn't be published if not for Absolute Write and everything I learned here. So don't tell me it's not very helpful. If you can't figure out how to use the information here, that's your problem.
 

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Is this because you got called on your spam-a-thon all over the place yesterday, Alien?

It's funny - you come here, you bitch a little, you go away for a few months or so, and then you come back. If it's so elitist and whatnot, why do you keep coming back?
 

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I get some free time and want to see what my old chums are up to over here. Some of you are cool and some of you are jackasses. The majority of the people I'm talking about know where they are in my book, if you don't know just ask me. I have no problem calling out the wolves in sheep clothing.
 

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It's probably my fault for signing a crappy contract, but I'm sure they owe me some money. They're belligerent when questioned, but every corporation, person, and identity is these days.

Really? I've questioned corporations and people without getting nasty tone letters in response.

Perhaps your experience is unique to PublishAmerica, or to your approach?

Absolute Write itself is not very helpful. The authors and presses on here share elitists attitudes.

That's why we don't have forums about self-publishing or e-publishing.

Oh, wait.

Everyone is out for themselves.

Wrong again, Jeff.

I learned the hard way. Write a better book than the guy next to you and hope it gets in the right hands.

I find that when you do research into publishers and agents, you don't need to rely on hope that you're sending it to the right people.

That's the way it works. Publish America gets away with what they do because they have money.

Don't forget that PA has loyalists who defended it and tried to slam anyone who criticized it. Fewer loyalists these days, though.

Absolute Write gets away with being the pesky mosquito to them because they have access to money and media connections.

I thought you had media connections. Didn't you have a radio show of some sort?

It's a cycle that doesn't end. It's the snake eating it's own tail. Publish America and Absolute Write have their own agendas. There are no good guys here, just two sides who get off on manipulating writers for an agenda.

But you saw right through that? How clever of you.

Some of you are cool and some of you are jackasses. The majority of the people I'm talking about know where they are in my book, if you don't know just ask me. I have no problem calling out the wolves in sheep clothing.

Heh. That reminds me of the time you claimed that we "are consumed by fire and those who are engulfed seek water but are denied by their burning visions of blind rage."

That was hilarious. This, not so much. Try harder?
 
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Yes, I still have my radio show. It's doing well too, (over 40,000 listeners) Put up your best person from AW and debate me whether or not Absolute Write has an agenda. You can put up James Macdonald again for the debate. He wasn't too prepared last time though.
 

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Yes, I still have my radio show. It's doing well too, (over 40,000 listeners)

So why are you bitter about AW's media connections then?

Put up your best person from AW and debate me whether or not Absolute Write has an agenda. You can put up James Macdonald again for the debate. He wasn't too prepared last time though.

From what I've read, he didn't have to be. He was debating you.
 

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I was stating an observance. I couldn't care less about the media connection. I was sharing info of why the cycle is continuing between Publish America and Absolute Write. You can accept it or reject it.
 

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I was stating an observance. I couldn't care less about the media connection.

If you couldn't care less, you wouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

I was sharing info of why the cycle is continuing between Publish America and Absolute Write.

That wasn't information. That was one person's highly prejudiced opinion contradicted by available evidence.
 

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Show me evidence to the contrary. Please document and cite your sources. I need outside references. No loaded AW member statements, or AW manufactured propaganda, including P&E, Miss Snark aka the gimmick (or whatever she goes by), and associates. Give me independent examples of available evidence. Doubt you can find it. Once again, this points back to the media and money network. To be in the publishing business, you must go through Absolute Write. They are the broker of information. They send you to predisposed presses and publishing houses based on their internal infrastructure. These all come by recommendation. There's an agenda here.
 

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Show me evidence to the contrary. Please document and cite your sources. I need outside references. No loaded AW member statements, or AW manufactured propaganda, including P&E, Miss Snark aka the gimmick (or whatever she goes by), and associates. Give me independent examples of available evidence. Doubt you can find it. Once again, this points back to the media and money network. To be in the publishing business, you must go through Absolute Write.

Yes. We're like the Stonecutters that way.

Who controls the British crown? Who keeps the metric system down?
We do! We do!


This is vintage Alien Enigma, by the way. Just what I'd hoped to see! Thank you for the laughs.

There's an agenda here.

If you want anyone to believe that, "Show me evidence... Please document and cite your sources. I need outside references."
 

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Love the new pic. See how they are screwing around by changing my avatar? I don't have to cite anything. It was an observance brought on by reason and logic.
 

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May I borrow a cup of paranoia, please? :D

To be in the publishing business, you must go through Absolute Write.

First time I've seen that memo. It's likely news to AW, too. And here I thought all one had to do was write well and sell to the right publishing venue.

Last time I went to a publishing party I had to explain AW to the editors there. Most had never heard of this board. Guess they're too busy working to cruise by and take notes.

Most never heard of PA, either. Shows how worried they are about amateurs.

Kiddies, let's not feed the troll no mo'.
 

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Love the new pic. See how they are screwing around by changing my avatar?

And destroying your future in the publishing industry. Forever.

Don't forget that part, because it's important.

I don't have to cite anything.

Then neither do we.
 
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