Don't bastarding BELIEEEEVEE this!

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OK, so a few weeks ago, finished 1st draft of 'Watch All Night'. (posted my achievement in 'weekend', but no-one noticed, bah).

My protag is a night security guard for a London apartment block, he's lived a bad life and now lives in a hostel, surrounded by drunk and lost men. He sees ghosts at this place. One of the first he sees is a boy in a hoodie, whose face he can't see, although the angle should be revealing it. He's got some talent as an artist, which means he can sketch the entities he sees. There's a scary basement in the building, which will be used as storage space.

OK. So. Leaving the script before editing, decide to pick up a book. The one I choose is called Apartment 16. Never heard of it, but sounds good. I start to read. I scream.

The protag is a nightwatchman for a London apartment block, where he sees ghosts and horrors. He lives above a pub, where his flatmate is a drunken potboy. His guide to the spirit world is a boy in a hoodie, whose face he cannot see. He used to be an artist. There's a basement full of stuff in storage, where the female protag finds old stuff that kick off psychic phenomena.

I've only got that far in the book, which was pubbed this year, and I'm almost scared to read more - and not in a good way. There'd better be enough differences between mine and it - I bet it's already been scouted for film rights, and being a work with audiences already, it'll kick mine out of the water.

Yeah, I know the chances of getting a movie deal on a spec script from an unproduced writer are crap anyway, but still. I've been writing this bloody thing for about 4 years, whilst working on others and I am not happy.

And breathe...
 

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Follow these directions....

1. Take a deep breath.

2. Take another one.

3. Repeat 1 & 2.

It really takes the wind out of the sails to have this happen, but rest assured, you are not the first something like this has happened to.

You know you will read the whole book.....it is the nature of being a writer. My heart goes out to you. I don't know what I would do in your shoes. (Other then the first three steps.) This has got to be so discouraging. Please stay with us and keep us in your loop. :Hug2:
 

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Thanks for your kind words. I am limping through the book with my teeth gritting to powder. So far, nothing else is like my own work. Finger crossed.
 

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I too hold my breath every now and then when something looks similar to mine. Those near misses get my butt in gear to finish the book and get it submitted.

Chances are, your book and the other book are quite different, and you can probably make yours even more different (and better than the other one!) with surprisingly little effort. Keep breathing and once the shock wears off you will have a better book.
 

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Well, actually, mine is a screenplay, and I've already finished it...Grrr.
 

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Oh wow.

You've gotten good advice from everyone above me, I have nothing to really add except my apologies for not seeing you'd finished "Watch All Night" over in the weekend thread and leaving appropriate Snoopy's.

They don't seem to fit here, sooo....
 

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Thanks, Laurie. I felt your encouragement anyway! :) But look out for when I finish the 1st draft of 'Open House'...coming soon. And I'll expect cake.
 

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OK, so a few weeks ago, finished 1st draft of 'Watch All Night'. (posted my achievement in 'weekend', but no-one noticed, bah).

My protag is a night security guard for a London apartment block, he's lived a bad life and now lives in a hostel, surrounded by drunk and lost men. He sees ghosts at this place. One of the first he sees is a boy in a hoodie, whose face he can't see, although the angle should be revealing it. He's got some talent as an artist, which means he can sketch the entities he sees. There's a scary basement in the building, which will be used as storage space.

OK. So. Leaving the script before editing, decide to pick up a book. The one I choose is called Apartment 16. Never heard of it, but sounds good. I start to read. I scream.

The protag is a nightwatchman for a London apartment block, where he sees ghosts and horrors. He lives above a pub, where his flatmate is a drunken potboy. His guide to the spirit world is a boy in a hoodie, whose face he cannot see. He used to be an artist. There's a basement full of stuff in storage, where the female protag finds old stuff that kick off psychic phenomena.

I've only got that far in the book, which was pubbed this year, and I'm almost scared to read more - and not in a good way. There'd better be enough differences between mine and it - I bet it's already been scouted for film rights, and being a work with audiences already, it'll kick mine out of the water.

Yeah, I know the chances of getting a movie deal on a spec script from an unproduced writer are crap anyway, but still. I've been writing this bloody thing for about 4 years, whilst working on others and I am not happy.

And breathe...

Well I've just finished a short story about a house with stuff in the basement that's in storage that kicks of psychic events... I think I might move it into the attic.
 

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Back when I was attempting screenplays, the only one that I ever finished and was proud of was a story called "Ghost Doors" about a mysterious figure called The Traveler who can bend time and moves between the world of the living and the beyond via "ghost doors" of people's dreams.

Then I happened upon Tananarive Due's (really good) book, The Between, a story "involving 'travelers,' or persons who unconsciously use dreams as 'doorways' to elude fate and live in 'the between' world."

Know what I did with that screenplay? Kept it. I still like it, despite it's many flaws, and revisit it from time to time to polish it in the hopes of one day getting it just right for the sale. My point is, many works may be out there that bear some astonishing, even deflating similarities to anything you may be working on. Hell, I temporarily abandoned my current WIP after reading John Dies at the End because I thought the "supernatural drug" angle was too similar to what I was doing. But at the end of the day, particularly with something you've already completed, you just have to trust that your story and voice are distinct enough to overcome the similarities.

So, to echo other comments that have come weeks ahead of mine (advice you've hopefully taken already), just breathe. Relax, and don't think of your screenplay as a lost cause now.
 

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Well said Jcomp. It's just a theme, IMHO. You can use a similar one and have a totally different story with different characters, different aims and different goals...
 

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BTW, the name of the guy who's the key to the shenanigans is the same in both my screenplay and Apt. 16! Even spelt the same although there are two ways of spelling this name (won't spoiler in case you read the book/see my film!).

But I'm laughing now.
 
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bastarding -that's one of my fave noun to verb conversions.

as for horror stories, your post might qualify - in that it is a horrible experience. still , might be possible to alter
 

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bastarding -that's one of my fave noun to verb conversions.

as for horror stories, your post might qualify - in that it is a horrible experience. still , might be possible to alter
I ain't altering shit! (grump, grump.) Nah, let's just see what happens. While I'm in US, I'll WGA it.
 

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'Tis Robert the Doll. Look him up online.. but not before bed, nyaaaaahaahaaaaaa!
 
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