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Just wanted to ask everybody what they thought of YA e-publishing. I read an article recently that it is something that is going to take off in a big way. I wish I could locate that article...but I can't recall where I read it???

Anyway...what are your thoughts? Would you consider doing it? Do you think it's a viable market? I'm asking as YA writers what you think...not as writers in general. Is YA e-Publishing something you would consider? And, if yes or if no, why?
 

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I think it could be.

The issue with e-books, i feel, especially in a YA market, is that the readers are pretty damn expensive. But on the plus side, the books are cheaper.
 

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It wouldn't be my first publishing choice for my YA novel, but if it were the only way to get it to market, sure. I just worry not many young adults are able to afford ereaders just yet. I expect that'll change as the devices get steadily less expensive.
 

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I think it's poised to take off, but the time isn't quite ripe yet. As pointed out, e-readers are too expensive, but maybe cell phone and iTouch apps for e-books have a chance in the near term...

Personally, I'd love to see e-books for the YA market take off. I'm rooting for it.

As a writer of YA fiction, would I seek that route as a first choice right now? No. Except maybe for short fiction.
 
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Comments making total sense so far.

Anyone here already e-pubbed with YA?
 

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The reasons I'm asking these questions is that this may have opened up as a possibility to me. I'm just trying to weigh things.

I REALLY believe in my novel....but tried for 3 years to hook an agent or small press. With no luck. I have 4 completed novels and this is the only one I truly believe in. Had LOTS of fantastic feedback...but no luck getting the right person to look at it. e-Pub is, at the moment, an avenue that has opened up for me. Possibly. Just fishing around for opinions.
 

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So far the e-book sales for BREAK have been nothing compared to the print sales, so that's enough to make me a little wary of e-publishing for teens right now. In the first month BREAK was out, I sold all of 3 e-book copies. And I happen to know that my parents each bought one, soooooooo...

That being said, I think that will change in a big way over the next ten years. Teens are already electronically-focused--somehow that just hasn't crossed over to reading just yet. My theory is that e-reading as of right now requires, if you want to make it a real habit, a brand new piece of equipment that does nothing else but handle books. Once e-readers become integrated more with their smartphones, mp3 players, etc, teens who read will read more e-books. The tablet revolution will play into this in a big way, I think.
 

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Thanks much for the insights, Shady! I'm just so frustrated lately. I'm beginning to think that I'd be just as frustrated if I went with the e-pub route. Thanks.
 

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I was ask about that myself by an Agent, if i would be interested in going that way. I did tell them i would like to know more about it, so they are sending me info on it. I guess our world is turning into an all internet world. But just between us I will still buy my paper backs.
 

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My YA novel is available in e-book and print. As far as I know, since the book came out in January, only about 5 or 6 e-books have been sold, and one of those was to someone who wanted to review it but apparently didn't know they could ask for a review copy...

Most of the teens I've spoken to--my own children included--say they prefer print books. My 14-year-old spends much of her time on the computer or her phone, at least as much as we let her, but even though a couple of my writing friends have sent her e-books to look at, she won't read them. She won't read from her computer (e-books are usually available in PDF so they can be read on one's desktop or laptop) and she doesn't want any kind of reader.

In time, e-books may take over the market, but somehow, I don't see it happening.
 

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Mary Kole (agent w/Andrea Brown Lit) talked about ebooks and ereaders here

I'm thinking ebooks for the teen and under crowd will catch on at some point, especially with multifunctional tech. And I'm thinking it may depend on who's selling it. From what I understand, ebooks (in general) sold from epubs as opposed to traditional pubs fare better (but, then again,it also depends on the type of book, hte audience, etc).
 
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Hi, KomJo

Well, that is great to hear. I was going to ask my God daughter since she is soon to be 13teen and loves to read books. But I think i do have to agree with you. I think it will be a while for that to happen.
I myself love to read a good book in a chair with popcorn beside me and light music in the back room so I hope that doesn't change.
But good for you on getting your books on there.
 

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Most of the e-pubs that I know of cater to the adult market (though not all are erotica). Some of them have published YA books in the past, but most of them have dropped their YA lines. You can still purchase the YA ebooks that they have, but they aren't accepting any new ones for publication.

So maybe there are some pubs out there that are starting up, or some established ones that do publish YA, but from what I've seen is that it's a declining thing rather than a going to take off big thing. But I could be wrong.

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Most of the e-pubs that I know of cater to the adult market (though not all are erotica). Some of them have published YA books in the past, but most of them have dropped their YA lines. You can still purchase the YA ebooks that they have, but they aren't accepting any new ones for publication.

So maybe there are some pubs out there that are starting up, or some established ones that do publish YA, but from what I've seen is that it's a declining thing rather than a going to take off big thing. But I could be wrong.

Yttar

Yup, the one linked below. they're taking new writers.
And you DON'T NEED A READER TO READ THEM!
Just a phone.
 

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Thanks so much for the suggestion, Paul!


I once won a poetry contest where the prize was $250.00US plus a contract for an e-book of poetry. That e-book sold 73 copies. I thought that was pretty good...but I also know that all 73 were purchased by people I know. The one thing I find it hard to wrap my head around is strangers buying ebooks. And yet...since I started buying them, I did buy one from someone I have never heard of. I'm just trying to readjust the way I see the market. I used to be so dead set against it...now I'm buying them. It's starting to make sense.
 

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I have to agree with Hannah's comment on this one. The problem with the newer devices that have e-book platforms (think iPad) is that #1 cost is an issue for everyone, not just kids. Secondly, the libraries on them are still pretty small. The kindle is excluded from this problem because Amazon has been working on its library for years buuuut, now you are back to the problem of having a device that solely reads books. Just my two cents. Trust me, I feel the pain of searching for an agent right along with you but I'm weary of going anything but the traditional route right now.

On a side note - nice hair Hannah. It looks super curly (I have just embraced my curls for the first time in my life so I am on the lookout for others:)

So far the e-book sales for BREAK have been nothing compared to the print sales, so that's enough to make me a little wary of e-publishing for teens right now. In the first month BREAK was out, I sold all of 3 e-book copies. And I happen to know that my parents each bought one, soooooooo...

That being said, I think that will change in a big way over the next ten years. Teens are already electronically-focused--somehow that just hasn't crossed over to reading just yet. My theory is that e-reading as of right now requires, if you want to make it a real habit, a brand new piece of equipment that does nothing else but handle books. Once e-readers become integrated more with their smartphones, mp3 players, etc, teens who read will read more e-books. The tablet revolution will play into this in a big way, I think.
 

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My debut novel was released in print and ebook. Only sold 4 ebook version but print sold a lot more. I just don't think many teens have the resources for the ebook readers yet. So, for our next release the pub suggested holding off of the ebook version.
 

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KTC:
Just wanted to ask everybody what they thought of YA e-publishing. I read an article recently that it is something that is going to take off in a big way.

As a general comment, people have been talking about epublishing taking off/taking over for a number of years now and while I think that it's more likely to become a significant market in the long run, I don't think it's there yet and will be surprised if it really happens in the next 5 years or so.

In the YA market at the London Book Fair last month a number of publishers were apparently touting the possibility of doing all-out epublishing with links to videos, websites and other content within stories. That's all great but no one seemed to be thinking about who would be making that additional content and who would be paying for it.

My personal take is that people read a book because they want to read a book, not because they want to be taken off somewhere else to be shown a shiny thing. It's the same compulsion that makes people skip through the backstory segments in computer games (i.e. they want to get on with playing the game).

Basically, the technology is getting out there, but we're still at the stage where no one really knows what to do with it. Certainly in the UK, I don't see many people on the Tube using an ebook reader - most people (kids included) are still reading physical books. I'm told that's different in cities like New York, but I wonder if that's because there are more people there who have to read a lot of text for work and so are using the technology to review documentation supplemental to their work (I'm throwing it out there for discussion as I don't know).

Amazon's biggest ebook sales happened on Christmas Day last year and that was down to people getting the devices and wanting to immediately use them. While sales are up on previous years, the saturation isn't there and sales of big titles like the last Dan Brown book on eformat weren't a patch on those in print.

I know all this makes me sound like a Luddite and I'm not against technology for the sake of technology. Equally though, I don't think that new and techno shiny automatically means that it's going to work. Look like 3G mobile phones - back in the 90s (for those of us who were around then), everyone was going on about how WAP enabled phones were the future, but it wasn't until the iPhone came out a few years ago that people really started to use the internet via their handset because it came with Apps that they would get a direct benefit from. My point is that people are slow to adapt to change and they have to be shown how the technology actually makes a difference to what they'd otherwise do by some other means.

That's all a bit rambly. But I hope it kinda makes sense.
KTC:
what are your thoughts? Would you consider doing it? Do you think it's a viable market? I'm asking as YA writers what you think...not as writers in general. Is YA e-Publishing something you would consider? And, if yes or if no, why?

It depends who you're epublishing with.

If you've got a big commercial publisher who wants the e-rights then yes, I'd sell it to them because I know that the ebook is going to get the same marketing and distribution attention as the print book and someone else is worrying about the technical platform stuff.

If we're talking about self-publishing in ebook format then I think that you end up with precisely the same problem as when you self-publish in print format - how are people going to hear about your book? Where is it going to be available? In what format is it going to be available?

In fact, I wonder if it might actually hurt sales to only publish in eformat because a lot of self-published children's/YA authors rely on school visits to make sales and physically take their books there. That's not possible with a book only available in ebook format.

MM
 

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I was going to agree with the cost issue for teens and ereaders, BUT - Teens get whatever they want these days. How many teens are walking around with $300 Iphones, Ipods, fancy new laptops, $150 jeans? (My sister for one. And she buys it all herself)

And teens love techie stuff. I think ebooks will catch on soon. HOWEVER - I would think many readers are like me and still enjoy having a real book in their hands.

So maybe it'll take a while.
 

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A fairly well-known agent posted on her blog the other day about e-books and how many people e-buy rather than purchase a printed copy. Apparently business people and those who travel a lot are more prone to buying Kindles and iPads and the like.

TeenReads.com did a survey and found only 5% of teens read e-books.
 

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Thanks all for posting your replies. Some great posts here. I'm thinking it's probably best NOT to do this if it's solely e. Looks like there won't be sales to speak of???

Here's another one...

What if you found yourself in my boat. You've tried for forever and a day to get either an agent or a publisher to look at your work. You wrote it WAY BACK in 2003 and you're just about done trying to snag a taker. You've sent to countless (and I mean countless!) agents and publishers and you're ready to trunk it. Then this opportunity comes up. And since you REALLY believe this novel is worth more than a trunk, you think, "hmmmm?" That's about where I stand. It's either the trunk or this opportunity. Part of me is STILL telling me to trunk it. At any rate, I'm at a point where I want to focus on other completed works. I want to forget about this one and get on with it. Would giving it to an e-pub (a reputable one...I won't say who just yet---but they only do e.) be a dumb move?

I hate that I can't get a paper pub or agent to look at this. It's the only one of my 4 finished manuscripts that I have faith in.
 

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A novel accepted and published by an e-publisher is a legitimate credit. So, if it's e-pub or trunk, I'd e-pub for sure!!
 
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