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Hi. I don't usually come into the YA forum, as I've never intentionally written a YA book before. BUT, and there had to be a but, the first book I ever wrote was critiqued by my sister (one of the few who have read even part of it...) and she said, "The story is adult, but the writing is for kids." Paraphrasing.

Now, as soon as she said that, I realised, Yes, the writing itself wouldn't be a problem for teens. Also, I've read more YA than my sister has, and I know that you can have pretty much any storyline you want providing it's "accessible" to teens in the way it's written.

So, I have this book that I love, that is "written" in a way that teens could easily read, and it could even feasibly be MG in nature. BUT all the characters are in their twenties...

Does YA and MG HAVE to have characters that are in the same age range as the target audience? Like I said, I don't usually come in here, so this might be a stupid question, but there it is.

Basically what I'm asking is, "Should I change the age of my characters and change their dialogue a little to reflect that, or does it not matter, considering I'm probably going to try and sell it as YA?"

(Note: I won't be posting an excerpt - I know the language of the book will be fine with teens, and possibly younger.)

Thanks in advance!
 

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Some YA books don't have teen characters. But "story is adult, but writing is for kids" does not in any way sound like a YA novel. A YA novel would be, "story appeals to teens and writing is for teens."
 
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Yes, usually YA characters are teenagers and MG characters are pre-teens. There are always exceptions to the rule, but if the only reason you're thinking it should be YA is that it's written in a way that's accessible to teens, then my guess is it's not YA.

So, I've gotta ask, what do you mean by "the writing is for kids"?
 

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The language is pretty simple, there's no swearing, it's not too dark a subject matter... all things which to my (possibly naive) opinion makes it more a YA book than an adult book.

I know there will always be YA books that have swearing, and somewhat more difficult language, and sometimes darker subject matter, and all that, but the lacking of such things in my book makes me think, PERHAPS, kids and teens would appreciate the writing moreso than adults.

*shrug*
 

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The language is pretty simple, there's no swearing, it's not too dark a subject matter... all things which to my (possibly naive) opinion makes it more a YA book than an adult book.

None of those things make a book YA. What's the subject matter? What's the story about?
 

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The language is pretty simple, there's no swearing, it's not too dark a subject matter... all things which to my (possibly naive) opinion makes it more a YA book than an adult book.

Haha. Take a look at Shady's Edgy YA ;) As to your main question the only adults I see most of the time in YA are in YA Fantasy. I would get a beta that is familiar with YA to give it a look over. I would be happy to if you want to send the first chapter to me, or maybe just a few pages.
 

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99% of YA books have teenage MCs.

I can't think of one that doesn't, but I'm sure there's one, hence the 99.

YA can have any anything from very easy language to that denser than most adult novels, so it's definitely not the difficulty of the language--and it sure as fuck isn't whether or not there's swearing--that determines if it's YA.

It's subject matter, and it's characters. So a lightly written adult book isn't going to qualify.

There are a lot of stickies on this.
 

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The general rule (<---ick word) for YA is that it's the "growing up" phase (topping out around 18) while the 20's are the "moving on" phase. Normally the MC should be a couple of years older than the targeted reader. 19 year olds hit the void between categories.

The "problem" of where to put books with MC's in their 20's is a long standing one. One publisher has decided to try out "new adult" as a genre, and another's trying out a college Freshman aged series for YA, but most are waiting to see how they fare before taking the leap.
 
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