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...the word bugger. It should've been used in or around 1680-1710. Preferably something recognizable to modern readers. Thanks!
 

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You want the verb or the noun, AZ?
www.etymonline.com said:
buggery mid-14c., "heresy," later "unnatural intercourse" with man or beast, "carnalis copula contra Naturam, & hoc vel per confusionem Specierum". See bugger.

bugger "sodomite," 1550s, earlier "heretic" (mid-14c.), from M.L. Bulgarus "a Bulgarian" (see Bulgaria), so called from Catholic bigoted notions of the sex lives of Eastern Orthodox Christians or of the sect of heretics that was prominent there 11c.
Please bear in mind that in most parts of Europe at that time, sodomy was a capital crime. From Rictor Norton:
Glossographia Anglicana Nova: Or, A Dictionary, Interpreting Such Hard Words of whatever Language, as are at present used in the English Tongue, with their Etymologies, Definition, &c., Second Edition, London, 1719:
Catamite, a Boy kept for Sodomy.
Ganymede, the Name of a Trojan Boy; now it commonly signifies any Boy loved for Carnal Abuse, or hired to be used contrary to Nature, to commit the Sin of Sodomy.
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Gomorrhean, (from Gomorrha,) Sodomite, a Buggerer.
Sodomite, a Person given to Sodomy or Buggery, the Sin of Sodom, the chief of the five Cities in Palestine, which was destroy'd by fire from Heaven; the Territory where it stood being swallowed up in the Brimstone Lake, commonly called the Dead Sea.
A Classical Dictionary of the Vulgar Tongue, (by Grose), London, 1785:
BACK GAMMON PLAYER, a sodomite.
INDORSER, a sodomite; to indorse with a cudgel, to drub or beat a man over the back with a stick, to lay cane upon Abel.
MOLLY, a miss Molly, an effeminate fellow, a sodomite.
WINDWARD PASSAGE, one who uses, or navigates the windward passage, a sodomite.
A New Dictionary of All the Cant and Flash Languages, by Humphry Tristram Potter, London, n.d.:
MADGE, a sodomite.
MADGE CULL, a buggerer.
MADGE COVE, a keeper of a house for buggerers.
Lingua Britannica Reformata: Or, A New English Dictionary, by Benjamin Martin, London, 1799:
BUGGERY, sodomy, or sin against nature, as one man having copulation with another; or a man or woman with brute beast.
PATHIC, sub. a catamite, sodomite, or one who suffers himself to be abused contrary to nature.
SODOMITE (so called from the sin of Sodom) a buggerer, one that commits sodomy.
SODOMITICAL, of, or belonging to the sin of sodomy.
SODOMY, buggery, a sin of the flesh against nature; so called because committed by the inhabitants of Sodom.
Blackguardiana: Dictionary of Rogues, Bawds, Pimps, Whores, Pickpockets, &/;c. &c., [by James Caulfield], London, [1795]:
BACK GAMMON PLAYER, a sodomite.
BUD SALLOGH, shitten p—ck [prick]; an Irish appellation for a sodomite.
INDORSER, a sodomite; to indorse with a cudgel, to drub or beat a man over the back with a stick, to lay cane upon Abel.
WINDWARD PASSAGE, one who uses, or navigates the windward passage, a sodomite.
Hope that helps.
 
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From encyclopedia.jrank.org:
“Unnatural” sexual practices also formed part of negative stereotyping. The phrase “in the Italian fashion” early became established as a euphemism for sodomy. Benvenuto Cellini relates in his Autobiography (1558–1566) how his mistress and model Catarina unscrupulously brought a case against him in France, accusing him of using her “in the Italian fashion, that is to say, unnaturally like a sodomite.” (In the trial only the phrase “in the Italian way” was used.) Cellini angrily refuted the charge: “To this I answered that such was not the Italian way, and that on the contrary it must be the French way, since she knew all about it and not I” (1956, 249-51). Samuel Pepys noted in his diary entry for July 1, 1663: “Buggery is now almost grown as common amongst our gallants [smart society men] as in Italy.”

Read more: Italians http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/articles/pages/724/Italians.html#ixzz0m33KCA5J
 

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If you were thinking of the way the term is often used here...I believe 'fiddlesticks' might be a good replacement, and have used it to replace the same term in my own WIP. Although I have verfied it well after your date, 1800s, it may have been in use prior.
 

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Thanks! I'm very tempted to use windward passage; it's so nautical and piratical. :evil Interesting note on the Italians, too, though "the Italian way" would seem odd in a book by someone with an Italian surname.

Ruv Draba said:
You want the verb or the noun, AZ?
Yes.

Please bear in mind that in most parts of Europe at that time, sodomy was a capital crime.
Very much borne in mind! I'm pretty sure being called a bugger back then was highly insulting.

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If you were thinking of the way the term is often used here...I believe 'fiddlesticks' might be a good replacement, and have used it to replace the same term in my own WIP.
Thanks, though I was thinking more in the line of insults, like "What are you, some kind of a bugger?" or "Go bugger a shark!"
 

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Yes, we use it that way kind of, also, and sometimes as a term of endearment.

They're nothing but buggers of kids.


His nothing but a bugger.
 

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Could you...

get away with some version of fiddler's bitch?

Like fiddler's stick - which is nearly what cooee suggested - or fiddler's pup?

I think backroom poker might be too modern. Backroom rammer? Or arse and anchor? That's an old one.
 

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The term "bugger" actually dates back to the period you're interested in.

Example from the OED:

2. One who commits buggery; a sodomite. In decent use only as a legal term.

1555 Fardle Facions II. x. 224 As rancke bouguers with mankinde, and with beastes, as the Saracenes are. 1587 TURBERV. Epitaphs & Sonn. Wks. (1837) 372 To serve his beastly lust..he will leade a bowgards life.
 

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Thanks, guys!

get away with some version of fiddler's bitch?

Like fiddler's stick - which is nearly what cooee suggested - or fiddler's pup?
I had to google that first term, and it was usually prefixed with "drunk as a".

I think backroom poker might be too modern. Backroom rammer? Or arse and anchor? That's an old one.
That last one doesn't sound too euphemistic. :eek: I worder if they had breech-loading cannons back then; I could make something out of that.

Kitti said:
Example from the OED:

2. One who commits buggery; a sodomite. In decent use only as a legal term.
Emphasis mine.
So it's a good thing I'm looking for euphemisms, then.
 

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Goodness me.

I had to google that first term, and it was usually prefixed with "drunk as a".

Isn't that interesting? The term, 'fiddler's bitch' as I've heard it used means over active sexually, in unusual ways!

To do with the active bow arm of the fiddler and bitches on heat!
 

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Isn't that interesting? The term, 'fiddler's bitch' as I've heard it used means over active sexually, in unusual ways!

To do with the active bow arm of the fiddler and bitches on heat!
Could be a colloquial thing? Fiddler's stick, however refered to a piece of male anatomy.