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Seems like they want to or need to compete with the iPad, or at least have an advantage over the Kindle by doing more than just reading books, to justify the cost. And I don't think there is anything wrong with that. Obviously if you don't want to use the web browser or play the games, you don't have to. The problem is, if the Nook or Kindle doesn't let you do more than just reading books, they will have to significantly lower their prices as a reader only device, in light of all the tablets that are going to come out in the wake of the iPad, and I don't think they want to do that. The only advantage they have over, say, the iPad is the eInk technology, but that also limits their usability - you can only read books with it. If you do want to check your FB status or twitter or weather report, you will have to carry another device. So the idea of spending $250 on a eBook reader seems less attractive. Many I know already said they would only pay $100 for a reader now when a tablet can do so much more. Somin order for them to maintain that price point and make profits, they need those added values.
 
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Oh, it's not that I don't understand why they did it. I just don't like it. And of course I don't have to use the web browser and all that, but it's a nasty pointy hatpin of a reminder that somehow "just a book" isn't good enough any more. It seems a shame.
 

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Oh, it's not that I don't understand why they did it. I just don't like it. And of course I don't have to use the web browser and all that, but it's a nasty pointy hatpin of a reminder that somehow "just a book" isn't good enough any more. It seems a shame.
I'm a bit of a techngeek, or nerd, whatever the label is - I don't often get the latest thing (I got a laptop/notebook last November mainly so I could participate in NaNoWriMo write-ins), but having done my share of embedded programming, when I see something like that I think of ARM processors and the reams of C/C++ code that make it dance and sing. I'm always of the mindset that the more bits of code you can squeeze into something to make it do more things, the better.

I've sometimes found it annoying about how some products have extra "features" that you buy. What happens when you buy the feature is it toggles one bit in the device that enables the software for that feature - the feature is already there, it just won't work until the 'power switch' for it is turned on (this has been going on in computer software for decades - you call the company to "buy" an extra feature in the software they sold you, give 'em your CC info, they process it, then give you the password you put in that enables the feature. This is also used to turn a shareware/"demo" version into full version). This "pay for new features" feature sounds like something you actually WANT in this, your "ebook-only" ebook reader, so you can choose not to buy it.

This problem is far from limited to e-readers. Computers have been this was since the '90's with email and the Web. The applications available for cellphones have skyrocketed where they can do many or most of the things desktop computers do.

What this problem IS that bothers you so much is that there's a huge amount of interactive content available at the touch of a button from the text your reading or writing or whatever other solo task you're doing that doesn't involve direct interaction with others around the world. How can you continue to do what you're doing when Your Most Favorite TV Show Ever (or something equivalent, your most favorite online activity) is playing Right Now and is only a click away?

It's a matter of ... what's that word/concept? Discipline? I'm good at words, but I only vaguely recall what that means.

I lie. I know EXACTLY what discipline means, but the ubiquitous availability of "being connected" is such a big attraction, it feels like an addiction. Fortunately, you don't get arrested and the judge send you to church basements for checking your email in the middle of reading an ebook.

ETA: if you use it as a floor wax, why would it bother you that it's also a dessert topping?

may Gilda Radner RIP
 
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It's a matter of ... what's that word/concept? Discipline? I'm good at words, but I only vaguely recall what that means.
Definitely true. I guess sometimes I don't want everything I do to be a test of will. I can win most of the time, but mostly I just wanted to read, not fight a psychological battle against distraction.
 

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I'm just happy that this new update is supposed to stop the freezing problem some units have been having. My Nook is of course one of the affected units. I've had to pry the back cover off and take the battery out so often that I've taken to keeping a screwdriver in my desk for the sole purpose of unfreezing my Nook.

I don't know if it's actually fixed the problem yet since it happens mostly when I download new books and I haven't done that since before the update, so we'll see. If it has fixed it I will be very, very happy.

I did check the browser out a little bit but I don't think I'll be using it much, if at all. Too cumbersome.

The games would be cool if they included one I actually play. Sudoku makes my brain hurt and I've never been good at chess. I was rather hoping they'd have crosswords or solitaire.
 

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I'm just happy that this new update is supposed to stop the freezing problem some units have been having. My Nook is of course one of the affected units. I've had to pry the back cover off and take the battery out so often that I've taken to keeping a screwdriver in my desk for the sole purpose of unfreezing my Nook.
Ugh. What a hassle. This is actually my third Nook, but my only problems were the casing material - which they've changed. The page turn button cracked on my first one and something really odd happened to the back cover on the other, it discolored. They didn't have replacement covers, and just sent me a new device. Apparently, a whole batch was made with plastic that wasn't up to snuff, but they could save the guts of the electronics at the factory.

I never had any problems with the functionality of it. Hope yours is all sorted out now. You know, before the warranty runs out you could always ask them to replace it. Tell them you've been patient and that you want to go around bragging on your Nook, but prying off the back cover just to make it work has gotten old.

I did check the browser out a little bit but I don't think I'll be using it much, if at all. Too cumbersome.

The games would be cool if they included one I actually play. Sudoku makes my brain hurt and I've never been good at chess. I was rather hoping they'd have crosswords or solitaire.

Yeah, the browser will probably be emergency email checks only. So, for that, I am thankful. And yay! I thought I was the only person who is reduced to tears by Sudoku.
 

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I deal with the most recalcitrant machines ever invented at work so a simple two minute fix doesn't bother me overmuch, and getting it replaced was no guarantee of getting one without the problem anyways. It only really happens when I'm downloading new material and I've always chalked it up to the fact that I never download just one book at a time. It's usually more like 2-5 books and 10-20 samples. :D I just make sure I stay in airplane mode while I'm not at home and download the books when I know I'll be home for awhile. The only times it's frozen when I'm reading is when I forgot to set it in airplane mode and it tried downloading while I was using it.

I'm tempted to try downloading to see if it does it or not but I've blown my book budget yet again. I'll wait till the beginning of next month. Or just Google to see if people are reporting it being fixed--that's how I figured out how to unfreeze it.

Haha, I looked at a Sudoku puzzle once. My brain just about melted.
 

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got a Nook last week and loving it - don't really need the games and the web browser, but I'm figuring that when they finish the beta on the browser I'll be able to head over to Project Gutenberg and download lots of free books from the public domain without having to sideboard them onto the baby.

No problems so far...

*crosses fingers*

I'm just enjoying the samples. Great way to find older books and see if I like them before slapping down the money and looking up backlists.
 

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Yeah, I love being able to find what I'm looking for quickly and without worrying about whether it's in stock or not. Not every book I want has an ebook version but I'd say about 90% of them do. The rest I'll either wait for the digital version or buy paper. I'm trying to avoid the latter though. I love books but I have zero desire to read the paper versions anymore. I love technology, I really do.

What I'm really excited about is how out-of-print books are slowly making their way back onto the market as ebooks.