To cut or not to cut?

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Jamie Stone

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Not sure if this is in the right forum or not; apologies, if not!

I've got the first half of my fantasy novel about selkies pretty well outlined, but I'm debating on how to start the book off.

Currently, I have the first chapter written in several scenes. The first scene shows a young selkie and her mother in their human forms on the beach. This sets up the premise of being seal shape-shifters, and characterizes the close, loving relationship between mother and daughter. It also sets up the daughter (my protagonist) as being fascinated with the beach and life on land. They are forced to quickly transform back to seal form when they hear human voices further along the beach.

The second scene is set two years later, when the protag roughly corresponds to a 10- or 11-year-old girl. She visits the beach often, typically against her mother's wishes, and has made a sort of "cabinet of curiosities" in a cliffside cave (think Ariel's cave of wonders in The Little Mermaid, but not underwater). One afternoon, she leaves her sealskin on the rocks to warm in the sun, and proceeds to venture into her cave. She spends some time there, exploring its depths, when all of a sudden she hears the distant sound of several men speaking. One of the men has discovered her skin, annnd... the story takes off from there.

Does it sound like the first scene between mother and daughter is necessary? I suppose the fact that I'm considering cutting it means it probably isn't critical to the plot, but I'm rather undecided.
 

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For many writers, it's impossible to know what the beginning really needs until you've finished the book and know what you need.

Personally, I'd keep writing until it becomes apparent, since you don't have enough story down yet to know for certain.
 

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Does it sound like the first scene between mother and daughter is necessary? I suppose the fact that I'm considering cutting it means it probably isn't critical to the plot, but I'm rather undecided.

You've answered your own question. Frequently writers begin with a kind of 'practice' scene or even an entire chapter, getting to know their characters and finding their legs. Generally it can be eliminated without hurting the plot one bit and more than likely enhancing the plot. Go with your gut. The second scene you described sounds far more interesting than the first and plunges right into problems for your young protag. You may still be able to use your first scene at another time when you want to slow down the pace.
 

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Agreed.

One can outline and plan too much, you know, fenroyal.

Only you can answer the question you posed but one of the most common opening flaws for beginners is to think they have to spell out all the background and set up.

It usually turns out to be background info you, the writer, need in order to write the story as opposed to essential information for me, the reader, to have before I can understand the unfolding story.

It is not necessary to know background in order to become absorbed in a tale and from what you have outlined above it seems as though you want to spoonfeed me background that I can learn gradually as the tale unfolds from wherever it really starts - usually the point where the protagonist's normal routine is irrevocably disturbed.

Good luck.
 

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What I did and it may work for you. I started my story a bit in the future. Just one paragraph and I closed with a vague sentence, hinting at something not good that might have happened before.

In your story, I would begin with her being in her cave and hearing the the men and she gets scared. Then I would flash back at her and her mother being at the beach and go on from there.

With the first part you create curiosity with why is she scared and who is she.
 

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Don't worry about keeping a first draft lean. Throw everything in and see how it develops. Second (third, fourth, etc.) drafts are for discovering the organic structure of the story and cutting what doesn't work, adding what will.
 

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For many writers, it's impossible to know what the beginning really needs until you've finished the book and know what you need.

Personally, I'd keep writing until it becomes apparent, since you don't have enough story down yet to know for certain.

I second this - keep writing to the conclusion, and worry about the placement and keeping of this passage when you do your revision
 

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I never edit/cut/review/revise anything until completion of the MS.

Ever.
 

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I like the second one. (Also your concept.)
 

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It depends what kind of writer you are. Personally, I have to get my first chapter right before I can move on. The first chapter sets the tone and is the jumping off point for the whole story. Many of my first chapters have survived revision intact to appear in the published book exactly as they did in my draft. I would start with the more dramatic moment, the detail about her past can be dealt with later. I think cluttering up your draft with unnecessary material might produce a baggier draft than you need, but only you can decide.
 

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I also think it's best to get at least most of the way through the first draft before worrying about it, but it does sound like the second scene is the more interesting of the two. Without reading it, it's hard to tell. Sometimes that kind of characterization really adds to the story, and sometimes it's the author giving unnecessary back story. Something you can always do if you're uncertain is post the two scenes in SYW and ask for advice on that specifically.
 

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You should always err on the side of cutting. If necessary, you can rewrite it better later. Don't bother saving what you delete.
 

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Oh man haha. I always save what I delete! I have a specific file for all the snippets so I can go back and pull some of them back if I have to. ;) Especially those bits of conversation I'll never remember.
 

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I don't have anything useful to add - I agree with the above posts. Don't worry too much about the cutting now, just have fun and write! :) You'll probably end up changing your novel a whole lot once you start editing. It's probably best to begin with the exciting part, but worry about that later.
Mostly, I just wanted to say your selkies idea sound great. Got to love the Celtic lore!
 
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