Smallville!!!! .... w/ possibility of spoilers

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*Warning: Possible spoilers in this thread*

Is there really no thread in here for Smallville? Maybe I'm just not finding it or something, but after 9 years you'd think there would be something. :D

I'm starting this thread because I love the show. I've just finished watching the newest episode (gotta love the DVR) and I just have to say something.

HO-LY SHITE!

Ok, so maybe it's not *that* big of a deal. But to fans like me, who have been watching the show since the day it aired, this week's episode is really something. Particularly the last shot, which Smallville is famous for. Their final shots always make me go, "Dammit! Is it next Friday yet?"

Now, I've been a loyal fan for years, stuck through the whole Lana/Clark back and forth, back and forth thing for years before she finally went buh-bye. Enter the beginning of the Lois/Clark relationship. Friends they have been since she came onto the show, but now the makers of the show are actually getting them together. So geeked! They're not dragging it out for ages like they did with Clark and Lana, thank goodness for that. And you know what? They're actually doing a good job about it too.

I can't post this without mentioning the fact that over the years the writers have introduced members of the Justice League to the show. :Thumbs: Green Arrow (Oliver Queen) has been a regular on the show for 3 seasons now if I'm not mistaken. But they've also had Aquaman, Cyborg, Martian Man, Black Canary, Flash (Bart is one of my favs), Brainiac (also one of my favs), and other famous Superman characters like Perry White. They way they've been written into the show has been done well. The writers have found a way to bend the Superman story, but not break it. In some areas it stays true to the original idea/concept, but they have taken their liberties over the years. But, as I said, they've done it well.

I have to say, the only thing I don't like about the recent seasons is no more Lex Luthor. They made it look like Queen killed him, but we all know he didn't. I mean, it's Lex Luthor, so we know he's not really dead. The person who played him, Michael Rosenbaum, was freakin' awesome at it IMHO. I don't think they could have picked a better person to play Lex. He did that part so well, especially when he started getting all...well, Lex Luthor like and doin' crazy shite nobody else would even consider, and I certainly miss seeing him on the show.

It is rumored that this is the last season of Smallville. I sure hope not, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it if it is. :D I'm just hoping that I don't watch the series finale and go WTF?!?! because they did a bad job of ending it. Mind you, I don't think that will happen, but it could. And let's face it, the show can't go on forever. Poor Tom Welling is going to have mucho consequences for being Clark Kent methinks. Yes, he's done movies and other shows, but he's mainly known for his portrayal of Clark. That could cause some issues in his acting career down the road..... then again, it could give him a leg up too. People may want him in their show/movie just because he was CK. Who knows? :Shrug:

So, tell me what you think. Do you not approve of Smallville? Are you obsessed with it like me? Do you think it's a dishonor to the whole Superman story? I want to know. Tell me what you love/hate about it. Tell me what you expect or want to happen in the show.
 

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I liked Smallville. Not from the start mind you, I didn't come into it until about season three or four and watched from there, catching the repeats of the earlier seasons as and when.

Oh, the rumour going around is that this will be the final season to allow a certain someone to play a certain someone in a certain upcoming movie about a certain superhero with a red cape. But, that's just a rumour ;)
 

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:rolleyes: I did hear something along those lines as well. :D

I know quite a few people who don't like the earlier seasons of the show, or didn't start watching it until around season 4 or 5. I love them all, own them all on DVD, but I have to say, with season 4, they really started kickin' some major bootay. I loved the ongoing story for that season and it remains one of my favorites.
 

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I've been a fan since Season 1. I miss Lex, and the show went through a rough patch of suckitude, but this season has been fantastic. :)
 

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Yep, I definitely agree with you there. I love that they have a version of Zod we haven't ever seen before, the younger version I mean. :)
 

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I think the odds of a S10 are strong since Tom Welling is contracted through next year, but I'm 99% sure that S10 will be its last season. I'll miss the show, but I'll be happy if they give it a great finale.

But ack. I don't watch much TV and my shows are ending! Lost dies this year. Supernatural probably ends next year and Smallville is going to likely end next year as well.

Where am I going to get my awesome scifi/fantasy/horror fix now?

/end whine

Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing where they take the Zod storyline with Clark and how Checkmate will play into it.
 

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Oh I know what you mean! I don't watch much TV at all and Smallville is one of a handful of shows that I watch every single week... when it's on anyway. (The fact that I have to wait until 4/2 to see what happens next annoys me to no end. :D) So yeah, I'm definitely going to miss it when it's done. :)

I really can't wait to see what more they do with Checkmate. That 2 hour episode they had a few weeks ago was kicka$$. I loved it. I kind of like what they did with Tess at the end of that one too, was a twist I was not expecting.

I was also thinking about the whole Lex thing. I read somewhere that he was done with the show, he wouldn't be coming back at all, but I think it's going to suck if he doesn't. I mean, they should at least bring him back at some point, whenever the show is ending I mean. I'd prefer it if they did it sooner than that, but I just don't see that happening. Still, it would be a shame if the show were to end without at least one more appearance by Rosenbaum. :D
 

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Yeah, S10 will be the last...just don't know who'll be there besides Tom (and Erica, really, because they have to have Lois). Everything I'm hearing is that it's likely to get a renewal in May....they're just hashing out contracts.

Yep, I watch, and I got my SO's dad into it, too. He's bought all the seasons on DVD.

They always do a great mid-season "finale", this time with Zod getting Clark's powers. Knew they'd have to ramp up the danger now that the Tower is down. I'm really excited for where we're going. (I do read the spoilers at K-site.)

(I'm also having fun with the new Chloe/Oliver thing. Great chemistry.)
 

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Yeah, Rosenbaum won't even consider coming back unless he can wear a bald cap. He refuses to shave his head again, or at least he was last time they talked to him (which was the last time they thought they'd be wrapping up the show). I think he's willing to do a few eps, maybe 4, so see out the show when that happens, but I'd be amazed if he did more... He really, really wanted beyond SV.
 

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Yeah, Rosenbaum won't even consider coming back unless he can wear a bald cap. He refuses to shave his head again, or at least he was last time they talked to him (which was the last time they thought they'd be wrapping up the show). I think he's willing to do a few eps, maybe 4, so see out the show when that happens, but I'd be amazed if he did more... He really, really wanted beyond SV.

They would have to do something major to get him to come back. I think he did mention interest in many a few episodes or the series finale, but I'll believe it when I see it. A lot of actors on that show are disgruntled with how their characters (and themselves) were handled.

Though, hey you never know. We're getting
Martha and Perry White
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Michael Rosenbaum was by far the best thing about the show. And I liked Lana Lang in all her insane glory; I never got the fan hatred for her. Chloe's a great character when the writers aren't mishandling her, which seems about half the time. I'd like to see more of Oliver with Speedy. Clark and Lois are negligible.
 

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Michael Rosenbaum was by far the best thing about the show. And I liked Lana Lang in all her insane glory; I never got the fan hatred for her. Chloe's a great character when the writers aren't mishandling her, which seems about half the time. I'd like to see more of Oliver with Speedy. Clark and Lois are negligible.

Clark, Lois, and Lex have always been my fave characters and I really enjoy them on the show. I miss the Kents vs the Luthors dynamic, but I do love the Lois and Clark DP dynamic too.

Oliver is great and I used to really love Chloe, but the last few seasons not so much.

I don't hate Lana, but never have been a fan. I found the Davis stuff from last year to be a joke.
 

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Lots to say, so brace yourselves for a long post. :D

Yeah, S10 will be the last...just don't know who'll be there besides Tom (and Erica, really, because they have to have Lois). Everything I'm hearing is that it's likely to get a renewal in May....they're just hashing out contracts.
I hope so. I mean, I know it can't last forever, but just one more season please. :D

They always do a great mid-season "finale", this time with Zod getting Clark's powers. Knew they'd have to ramp up the danger now that the Tower is down. I'm really excited for where we're going. (I do read the spoilers at K-site.)
Ditto, I'm impatient and I like to know what's coming. Doesn't take away from the episode when I watch it on TV or DVR so I continue to do it as much as possible. :D

(I'm also having fun with the new Chloe/Oliver thing. Great chemistry.)
Yep, with ya on that. I like what they're doing with them these past few eps. It's going to be interesting to see how they work that one out though. As we all know, there is no Chloe Sullivan, so I'm curious to see what they'll do with her when all is said and done.

Yeah, Rosenbaum won't even consider coming back unless he can wear a bald cap. He refuses to shave his head again, or at least he was last time they talked to him (which was the last time they thought they'd be wrapping up the show). I think he's willing to do a few eps, maybe 4, so see out the show when that happens, but I'd be amazed if he did more... He really, really wanted beyond SV.
I can't say I blame him. He's gotten so much recognition for his portrayal of Lex that transitioning into something else is going to be hard. Can we say typecast? :D

They would have to do something major to get him to come back. I think he did mention interest in many a few episodes or the series finale, but I'll believe it when I see it. A lot of actors on that show are disgruntled with how their characters (and themselves) were handled.

Though, hey you never know. We're getting
Martha and Perry White
back.
*jumps up and down* Can't wait for those either, particularly the second one. :D As far as Lex goes, I just think it would be weird to end the show without him. I feel like they need to tie up the loose ends with him before the show can be over. I mean, as far as the newer audience knows, he's dead. Those of us that are, maybe a little too familiar with Superman, know he can't be dead. He's freakin Lex Luthor! :D

Michael Rosenbaum was by far the best thing about the show. And I liked Lana Lang in all her insane glory; I never got the fan hatred for her. Chloe's a great character when the writers aren't mishandling her, which seems about half the time. I'd like to see more of Oliver with Speedy. Clark and Lois are negligible.
:Wha: Sorry, but I just don't get that statement. How can Clark and Lois be negligible??

Clark, Lois, and Lex have always been my fave characters and I really enjoy them on the show. I miss the Kents vs the Luthors dynamic, but I do love the Lois and Clark DP dynamic too.
Once again, ditto. :D


I don't hate Lana, but never have been a fan. I found the Davis stuff from last year to be a joke.

I used to be a huge Lana fan....until the whole her and Clark dynamic became overly repetitive. How many seasons did they go back and forth? Eight! That's a bit much. I'm glad she's not on the show anymore though. Her in the picture made it too hard for the whole Clark/Lois situation to blossom, which it really needed to do. I didn't really care for the way they did the whole Doom situation. They could have worked it out much better IMHO. :)
 

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Yeah, the way they dragged out Clana was insane.....especially having her show up last season and push Lois aside for 4 eps. Now that Clark's an adult and working at the DP, any Lana stuff really makes him regress. Kristin Kreuk was kept around by the previous showrunners (they were kinda obsessed with Lana). She could finally go on to other projects like she wanted once they stepped aside. From what I gathered, we wouldn't have had as many Lana seasons if it'd been Kristin's choice.

I know for comic canon Ollie/Chloe won't last, but it'll be fun to watch in the meantime. :D

We're getting
Martha and Perry White
back. - Yeah, I'm thrilled about that!

I was really glad to see Lois talking on the phone to Martha in "Persuasion"...I know they have a lot less budget than they used to so guest stars can only be there if it's important, but it's really nice to even get the pretend phone convo. She and Clark were both close to his mom and it doesn't make character sense for them to not call at least some of the time, despite busy schedules on both ends.
 

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I have to say, I miss some of the characters that aren't on anymore. Martha and Lionel in particular. I about flipped out when Lex killed him! I didn't get the chance to watch all of that season while it was on, I had to wait until it came out on DVD. I was so NOT expecting that at all. :D

I tell you one thing though. I am interested to see what they're going to do with the end of this season. With the towers being down, there's the future that Lois saw down the drain. Mucho cool scene at the end of the last ep though. I just wish they'd do the same thing with Clark already. I wanna see him fly again! Doing it in the beginning of the 4th season was just a tease. But as we obsessed ones know, that wasn't technically Clark. :D
 

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There are only two shows I watch on T.V.: Smallville, and Supernatural. For both I've been a fan since episode one!

I agree with Sneaky Devil, I really want Clark to fly already!
 

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RENEWAL, BABES!


Here's the press release:
The CW Network has announced that its hit series “Smallville” will return in the fall of 2010 for a momentous tenth season.
“Smallville,” a modern retelling of the Superman legend, stars Tom Welling as Clark Kent. The series moved to Friday nights this season, where it currently ranks as network television’s #1 show in its time period among men 18-34 and men 18-49.


Additionally, “Smallville” has dramatically improved The CW’s ratings performance in its Friday 8:00-9:00p.m.time period by 67% among adults 18-34 (1.5/6), 200% in men 18-34 (1.8/7), 75% in adults 18-49 (1.4/5), 183% in men 18-49 (1.7/6) and 74% in total viewers (3.12million).


“Smallville” joins the five previously announced series – “The Vampire Diaries,” “Gossip Girl,” “90210,” “Supernatural” and “America’s Next Top Model” – which will all return for another season on The CW.


“Smallville” was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar (“Shanghai Noon,” “The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor”), based on the DC Comics characters. Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson serve as executive producers, along with James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough and Warner Bros. Television. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.
TV Guide is reporting that Tom Welling, Justin Hartley, Cassidy Freeman, and Erica Durance will all be returning. No official word yet on Allison Mack or Callum Blue.​
 

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Ok, so I know that season finales are supposed to be cliffhangers and they're supposed to keep us intrigued enough to obsess over the show returning for months at a time, but this is just beyond anything I can stand. I just watched the Season 9 Finale for Smallville last night, thank goodness for the DVR or I would have missed it entirely, and I'm... ugh, what's the word I'm looking for here... annoyed, excited, skeptical, concerned... any and all of them will work.

As I have said before I love this show and always will. I've been watching it for years and I like the directions they've taken with it, especially recently (with the exception of them killing Jimmy, though I'm sure they'll take care of that before the show is over for good). Moving Lana out of the picture and beginning the Clark/Lois relationship was one of the best moves they ever made. I like the whole Chloe/Oliver storyline as well, but as we all know that one isn't going to last so I'm sure she'll end up dead or something in the end. :D My biggest gripe at the moment is Martha being the Red Queen, for some reason it doesn't sit well with me. Her relationship with Perry White makes even less sense to me, but what do I know? (The scene in his latest episode where Lois saves him is far too reminiscent of the save Clark made a few years ago too.)

Now, the season finale, the last scene is the main focus here. I know Clark has had his powers taken away from him before and he's always managed to get them back one way or another, but this time I'm just not seeing how it's going to happen. With Zod and the rest of the Kandorians gone and Kara no longer in the picture, there are no more Kryptonians to help him get his powers back, or save him from death as he's falling off the top of the Daily Planet. I mean, there's only so many times the Martian Manhunter can save Clark at the last second. Oli obviously won't be able to do anything as he was taken away at the end of the episode. Perhaps the other Justice League members will return to help Clark somehow, but on this I'm doubtful. There obviously has to be some way for him to retain his powers and finish off the final season of the show (*wipes tear*), but I'm just not seeing what it is. And this right here is why I'm so annoyed yet excited at the same time. While most of the other season finales have left me with the same feeling, I can usually come up with a few different ideas on how they would fix the issues. Not so much for this one. Maybe I'm just having a massive brain block or something but I can't seem to do it. We know his powers aren't gone for good because it was only blue kryptonite that was used on him, so there's a chance for him to get them back. But HOW?!?!?!

I know there's nothing I can do but sit and wait to see what will happen come September, which is frustrating to say the least. That's the problem with shows like this in my opinion. I realize the actors need time off but could you at least leave me with a little something more than me screaming at my TV to give me more more more!!!!!!
 

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Martian Manhunter is the only one fast enough to catch him. Or, Clark gets the blue Kryptonite away from himself before he goes splat. There's tons of speculation over at the Kryptonsite forum.
 

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I had to resurrect this thread to say that tonight is Smallville's series finale and I [b>cannot[/b] handle it. I've been a fan since the eighth grade, and though i haven't watched consistently the last few years, the idea of it ending is so heartbreaking.

Also, I hate what they've done with Chloe's character
 

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I've only watched the DVDs through S9, so I haven't seen anything of S10 yet, but I thought I'd add something about Chloe.

The Smallville people didn't get rights to anything Batman, however Oracle is a character that interacts with Superman a great deal in the comics and is very useful to the Justice League--however Oracle is Barbara Gordon and part of the Batman franchise they can't touch. Thus, take a character of their own invention and set her up to be what Oracle is: Thus, Chloe is Watchtower. I thought it was a brillant workaround a legal stranglehold. It was also nice to see Chloe evolve into someone cool and not just be a hanger-on character in the series.

Sorry to hear they may have messed with her in S10. We usually wait for the DVDs, but we'll be DVRing the finale tonight. It's been long enough to see that man in tights and a cape. Seriously.
 

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Pretty good finale. It was Michael Rosenbaum who got me watching the show originally; his Lex was the most interesting character.

My favorite thing about the show was when they had at least brief appearances by some of the less-known DC heroes, like Martian Manhunter (so cool he has a secret identity on Earth and another secret identity on Mars), Hawkman (wings, bad attitude, and he pounds mofos with an ancient mace), Doctor Fate, Sandman, Stargirl, and more recently Booster Gold and the latest Blue Beetle (in the same episode).
 

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Wait--I thought Dr. Fate was dead.

Will have to watch that tomorrow and see what their explanation is this time.
 

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The helmet of Dr. Fate makes new Dr. Fates, though, so...not in the finale, btw. And Chloe's fine by the end of S10.:D

I'm so torn! On the one hand, excellent finale - on the other, no more show! Now I want a Superman show with the same people. I've been reading all kinds of articles and messages tonight, looking at vids....*sniff* I've been a Superman fan for 31 years and hearing the theme music again tonight was awesome.
 

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I had stopped watching this show years ago, but I tuned in for most of the final 2 hours. It was hokey.