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(mods, please feel free to move this thread if it doesn't belong here. Wasn't sure where to put it, really.)

So, I'm currently trying to market my "first" novel--meaning the first one I've completed that I think might make it commercially. My problem: I'm not sure what genre it falls in.

Some background: a few years ago I got cozy fever. I spent months reading every cozy in the library. I thought, "hey, I could write one of these."

So I started out. Then, not too far into it, I thought (being essentially a fantasy writer), "Wouldn't it be cool if the gimmick in this cozy were magic?" I made the protagonist a witch.

Now I have the book and I don't know what it is. My husband thinks it's still a cozy, but I'm not sure. It's somewhat too long for a classic cozy (116,000 words or so). There is a mystery, but it's not the "bodies dropping all over the place" type. It's magical, but not quite in a fantasy way. It has elements of urban fantasy, but it takes place in a small town. There's a ghost and a demon involved, but I'm not sure it's really paranormal, either.

Here's the brief blurb from my query (which I may post in its entirety elsewhere for feedback):

Life in small-town Colorado is anything but simple for reluctant witch Caitlin Ross. Her bandmates in Irish Folk group Red Branch have ambitions far beyond their talents. She’s just discovered a ghost in the corner bar. The charismatic bar owner, Sean Casey, is practicing Black Magic, his daughter, feisty Breda Ni Fhearraigh, has misplaced her fiancé and the gods are pressuring Caitlin to get involved.

As Caitlin investigates, aided by her husband, Timber MacDuff, she comes to believe that the ghost, Casey’s doings and the fiancé’s disappearance are all connected by a hundred-year-old secret that threatens the entire town. When Casey also vanishes, only the ghost holds the key to the puzzle. Now Caitlin must fully embrace her powers, contact the ghost and finish what he started as a living man before someone less scrupulous beats her to it. In the end, she will learn that facing her deepest fears is nothing to facing what lies hidden in The Unquiet Grave.

Any suggestions as to what I can do with this? Can I call it a "Supernatural Mystery?" because that's essentially what it is. Am I trying to create a new genre here?

Thoughts appreciated! Thanks.

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Yes, I think calling it Supernatural Mystery would work. There is already a sub-genre (sub-sub-genre?) called Supernatural Mystery, so you won't be inventing a new term.
 

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A friend of mine writes a mystery series for Berkley with a heroine that is a forensic cleaner and sees dead people. Paranormal does factor into the mystery genre. Technically, I think you still fall under "amateur sleuth."
 

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Crossovers are common nowadays, so most people will likely understand what you mean if you call it "paranormal mystery" or "supernatural mystery".

Don't worry about it :)
 

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I believe I'd look on the Urban Fantasy shelf for this one. The Mystery shelf should be limited to stories that take place in this world, not a fantasy one. JMHO.
 

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I believe I'd look on the Urban Fantasy shelf for this one. The Mystery shelf should be limited to stories that take place in this world, not a fantasy one. JMHO.


Mmmm. That's part of my concern. I don't really consider it a fantasy world, per se. The town is fictional, yes. But it is located in Colorado. And much of the idea came from ghost legends of the area in which I live. I think when you're addressing ghosts and demons and the like (well, faeries too), it's a matter of conjecture and subjective belief what's "real" and what's not.

But then, I believe in all kinds of things. ;)

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A ghost does not constitute fantasy by any means. My current ROMANCE series is a mystery/romance/paranormal. Still shelved in romance.

IMHO, urban fantasy is also far more about tone and style than actual setting.
 

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Here are my thoughts, having faced a similar problem myself. First, if you are interested in acquiring an agent or publisher, I think that they much prefer you to work within the parameters of a single genre. It makes your book much easier to market to a large known group of readers. If you intend to self-publish and market on the web, this may much less of a problem. You can use several keywords to focus on your intended audience instead of an established genre category, but marketing on the web poses other challenges.

I've written a light-hearted fantasy story set in modern-day Boulder, and I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out the right genre for it. The most obvious choice is contemporary fantasy, as I think is true for you, but that genre is filled these days with stories about vampires and werewolves. It doesn't sound like your story would appeal to the vampire crowd any more than mine would. You will have to find some way of making your story stand out from all the dark urban fantasies being written today if you're going to use this genre label.

I don't read a lot of mysteries myself, but I think that if go with the mystery genre, or the cozy sub-genre, people will tend to expect that they can figure out the mystery based on their past experience and the clues you provide. Adding magic to the mix makes that much harder, and I don't know how many mystery writers like reaeding about magic too.

It sounds like there is such a thing as a supernatural mystery, and if so, that's the obvious solution. My concern would be that it's a genre that's so specialized that few readers exist. In my case, I've written a funny (hopefully anyway) contemporary fantasy without magical creatures, like dragons and elves, and there are darned few other writers of such books that I've found. The closest perhaps is Terry Pratchett. If nobody is writing similar books to yours, you can't expect too many readers to exist for that sub-genre.

In sum, I've decided to stick with the larger genre of contemporary fantasy and then use terms like light-hearted to distinguish my story from most contemporary fantasies with a darker tone. I hope that these thoughts were helpful.
 

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116K words is way too long for a mystery. So you'd be better off marketing it as a novel of the paranormal with mystery elements, unless you want to bring it down to mystery length (under 90K).

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I believe I'd look on the Urban Fantasy shelf for this one. The Mystery shelf should be limited to stories that take place in this world, not a fantasy one. JMHO

The thing is that there are a lot of mainstream mysteries with supernatural elements, which are marketed/catalogued/shelved in the "mystery" section. Nancy Atherton's "Aunt Dimity" series (Aunt Dimity is a ghost) and Mignon Ballard's "Augusta Goodnight" mysteries (Augusta Goodnight is an angel) are just two.

That said, those books are traditional cozy-length mysteries, ca. 80K words. If wysewomon is going to keep the 100K + length, she'd be better advised to chase the Jim Butcher/Laurell K. Hamilton market.
 

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116K words is way too long for a mystery. So you'd be better off marketing it as a novel of the paranormal with mystery elements, unless you want to bring it down to mystery length (under 90K).

Yeah, I was worried about that.

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Look on the agents website. Find out what genres they deal with. Fit your genre to them. It will be marketed as something different anyway. There is nothing wrong with modifying your query to suit each agent.
 

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there are alot of these books and they seem popular. 'if you could see me now' has a similar feel, and I would say it's a romance with supernatural elements. or maybe a mystery with supernatural elements.
 

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116K words is way too long for a mystery. So you'd be better off marketing it as a novel of the paranormal with mystery elements, unless you want to bring it down to mystery length (under 90K).
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That said, those books are traditional cozy-length mysteries, ca. 80K words. If wysewomon is going to keep the 100K + length, she'd be better advised to chase the Jim Butcher/Laurell K. Hamilton market.
Cozies are a genre of mystery that usually look and sound like Agatha Christie or TV's "Midsommer Murders". If it has even the slightest urban taste, it's not a cozy. Since there's no official investigator as the main character, it would be an amateur sleuth. I'd market it as a mystery and mention the paranormal/fantasy elements (ghost, werewolf, ghoul) in the query. While the book is clearly too long for a cozy, I doubt that it would fail as a regular mystery especially if it has elements of typically longer genres.
 

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Cozies are a genre of mystery that usually look and sound like Agatha Christie or TV's "Midsommer Murders". If it has even the slightest urban taste, it's not a cozy.

This isn't true in the US market, where there are many cozies with urban settings. (Laura Childs's Tea Shop mysteries are set in Charleston, South Carolina; Debbie Macomber's Blossom Street mysteries are set in Seattle; there are many others.)

And the setting of wysewomon's book is "rural Colorado" in any case, so that question is moot.
 
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That's good to know, but isn't it important to know your genre/subgenre for query letters?
Yes, but trying to get it exactly right is very difficult when there are so many subgenres. The query itself (the paragraphs about the story) will also help the agent or editor get a feel for where the book will fit.
 
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