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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pfl94#synopsis
In a special edition of Front Row, Mark Lawson speaks to readers, writers, publishers and e-book manufacturers about methods of consuming and producing literature

In the week where i seriously considered approaching ebook publishers with my novel and some novelettes, radio four broadcasts this. it was very interesting and i am even more keen to offer my work to this developing branch of the industry.

ebooks themselves didnt get too good a review on the programme, prototypes of a technology that will certainly become more widespread-likened to early brick sized mobiles.

anyone listen to this programme, (i am of course talking to UK AWers.) did you hear anything in the programme that you liked, hated?
 

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no one at all?

that says a lot about this site.
 

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It says more about your choice of posting locations. And, yanno, of it being a holiday weekend 'n' all. Moving to E-Publishing.
 
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Not for Front Row programs, unfortunately.
 

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We have been seeing promising protoypes for ebook readers for over a decade. I don't even give it a look until the say "market ready". The record for getting to concept to product is very, very poor.
 

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Son's trying to penetrate the market with a $198 and $298 ereader. I've seen 'em both and that's a ridiculous price for a pile of crap that isn;t even WiFi ready.

I haven't seen the Nook or some of the others, but the bitter truth is that an ebook reader has got to drop below $100 before Wal-Mart buyers will even consider it and, truth or not, that's a substantial portion of the buying market these days.

In addition, I've been told about ebooks that are running as much or more as a paperback or hardback book. That's patently ridiculous as well. I tell my customers that if they pay more than $3 for an ebook they're being ripped off (and yes, I am a writer and do hope to publish an ebook soon).

There needs to be an ebook format for (physical) readers and a system of loading a book onto a card or a reader that is not exhorbitantly expensive. 100 ebooks will fit on a 2 GB SDHC card in text format (probably more). What more does a (electronic) reader need (or a physical reader for that matter)?

I sell 2GB SDHC cards for $12. If I loaded 2 GB SDHC cards with portions of my library I'd be able to sell them for a couple bucks more at most. A little packaging and I could have a store full of ebooks and libraries of ebooks for next to nothing and an extremely small storefront -- no more than the shelf space needed for your standard video or cel phone store.

But first, the damned price for the readers has got to come DOWN or no one is going to purchase ebooks they can get virtually for free off the net.
 
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That implies that the majority of a books value is the paper, binding and postage, not the words.

And yes, I charge more than $3 for an ebook--and people pay it. My epublishers research price points and sell at the most profitable level (as they should).

I also pay more than $20 for an ereader, because it is not a book--it is an appliance.
 

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clearly no one here heard this programme
 

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You complain when we don't comment--and complain when we do. Oy. What are the odds that many people on this international board happened to hear a fairly obscure live radio program?

You could try summarising the main points if you really want to discuss them.
 

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as i said...

anyone listen to this programme, (i am of course talking to UK AWers.) did you hear anything in the programme that you liked, hated?

if you can answer yes to the first question and you have an opinion i would be interested to hear it.

i dont think this program would be that obscure to any UK writer.
 

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I apologise on behalf of the Cooler for not living up to your expectations.

But if you want to discuss some issues, perhaps you could go to the trouble of elucidating them.
 
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anyone listen to this programme, (i am of course talking to UK AWers.) did you hear anything in the programme that you liked, hated?
 

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*scratches head*

Are the subjects of this radio show secret or something? I mean I'd love to discuss e-books in the UK ( did you know Waterstone's sells an e-reader every two minutes? And the Gadget Show voted the kindle one of it's top gadgets for 2009?)

However, much as I would love the discussion, I need a subject to discuss.
 

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M'kay, I listened to it while paying the bills, so I didn't take note of names, but here's the gist of "Mark Lawson reports on rumors of the death of books".

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Introductory remarks re: E-readers replacing books under the Xmas tree. Compares ebook to Gutenberg press. Are ebooks fad or wave of future?

Comments by Sony spokesman: Explosive market...exceeding all expectations...sold as many in two months as expecting to sell in a year.

Lawson: What is the scale of this revolution?

Sony: Depends upon the category. Some genres adapt better than others. Expects that "dedicated reading device" will become standard household item.

Lawson: If e-reader = mp3 player, publishers will face shift in paradigm similar to music industry.

Sony marketing spokeswoman: Already big in US, UK catching up.

Focus group comments on Kindle: Ooo, can takes notes, doodle, and play music, too. Would be great for researchers and folks who want to read but not keep the book afterward.

Lawson: What about tactile experience?

Focus group: There's indeed loss of sentimentality and atmosphere. Not to mention being able to inscribe books as gifts, etc.

Lawson: Let's hear what writers think about all this.

Author1: I'm a Luddite, and don't want to put all my life on a screen.

Author2: Prefer tactile experience, being able to carry book without worrying about it. But ebooks do allow portability and storage of large numbers of books, plus accessibility to visually impaired.

Lawson: But why fix what isn't broken? How do you address fears of loss and failure?

Sony spokesman: Kindle has lowest rate of faulty devices than all other Sony products.

Lawson: But you still can't drop it off a building like a book....

Sony: Well, yeah....

Lawson: What about author/publisher concerns with piracy?

Sony: Thieves will scan or retype a print book. It actually helps to have good quality digital files out there. Advances in encryption and protection make digital libraries possible. Publishers realize they need to get on board or be left behind.

Lawson: What about support businesses? Hot type is dead. Is the printer far behind?

Pan Macmillan spokeswoman: Smart businesses change with the times. R&D anticipates trends, invests in technology.

Lawson: Are publishers doomed? E.g., authors can publish direct with Amazon.

PM: There's always been self-publishing, but most authors recognize the value publishers provide. Even with ebooks, an author still has to convince a distributor their book is worth carrying.

Lawson: Many authors are making ebooks out of their out-of-print books. Publishers are now jockeying for e-rights to old books that did not have such addressed in their contract.

PM: Yep. And new contracts are getting language to cover any technology yet to be invented.

Lawson: Will ebooks change writing?

Author3: We'll see more multimedia and add-ons, especially with reference works. There'll be less focus on the book and more on the work.

Author4: Books will become organic, like changing with each reading.

Lawson: Definitions of a good book generally entail its ability to take the reader away. How will that work with the above?

Author3: Add-ons will enhance the experience, not distract from it.

Lawson: What if publishers start saying "readers want shorter chapters", etc. Will you alter the way you write?

Author5: No.

Lawson: So, are ebooks really changing everything?

Sony marketing spokeswoman: Yes, but we're not there yet. Technology is still clunky because development has been focused on the e-ink. Today are the prototypes.

Lawson: Will there be a generational divide?

Sony spokesman: Not as large as one would expect. Older folks like e-readers because they're easy to handle and have adjustable displays.

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My opinion...anyone remember how interactive Laserdiscs were going to revolutionize the classroom? I think there's a lot of confusion re: the message and the medium.
 
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Sounds like the usual silly tripe. Much bluster ending with the admission that not much is, as yet, actually happening. Much ado about stuff consumers don't actually want, like add ons.
 

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Yep, nothing new there.

My opinion...anyone remember how interactive Laserdiscs were going to revolutionize the classroom? I think there's a lot of confusion re: the message and the medium.

Lol I remember when DVDs would 'never catch on'.....
 

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Hmmmm. It's of course speculation on my part, but what is needed for ebooks to take off are:

* Standard format - the ePub format is getting off now, I think.
* Open system, instead of the vendor gadgets, so that you can buy an ebook anywhere, and not just on the site that sells the gadget
* The price needs to come down considerably

I'm going to predict that the mobile phone companies will get in on this sooner or later as distributors of ebooks. So, you'll be able to text a company, and they'll send you the ebook by wifi. Speculation, of course, but I think it will be somewhat like the ringtones market.
 
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