Writing a novel and throwing every single idea in

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I'm afraid that I'm writing a "kitchen-sink" novel, in that I include everything but the kitchen sink and I just keep sticking new ideas in.

Basically I've been pouring most of my creative energies over the last year into one novel, which is sort of going well.
For me, writing is a case of finding an interesting idea (reading something in a magazine or a novel, or experiencing something new, or just having it strike me as a good topic) and then writing about it to the best of my ability. But because I'm concentrating on this one novel, any ideas I have are immediately shoehorned into the context of the story I'm writing.
For example: recently I read about the February 26 Incident (an attempted military coup in Japan in 1936) and thought "I could write an interesting short story about that." But then I thought "But if I change some of the details and take it out of historical context, I could stick it in The Novel and it might work pretty well." This leads me to think: is there anything I wouldn't twist around to stick in there? And if so, what is my novel actually about?

And even if I finish a short story, I'll look at it and think "Hey, if I change the names around and change a few details, this could work in my novel!". Which I'm beginning to think adds up to a choppy work. It seems to suggest to me that I'm doomed to write a novel about ideas with no proper overriding themes or plot. I think maybe the word is "unfocused".

Is this normal? Is this just natural behaviour when writing, to want to throw everything in? I'd appreciate thoughts on this... :D
 

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I did this on my first novel. When it was finished it was 290k words and then I started cutting, cutting, cutting. I eventually edited it down to 120k.


I am glad I did it this way, because it allowed me to get a lot of the 'junk' out of my head, and that way I wasn't constantly thinking about going back and adding this or that back into it.

Now, on novel #2, I am broken of the habit of trying to add everything under the sun into the story.
 

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Yeah-- I think it is pretty typical to think "Wow, I got 20K words here that I can add to this 40K stack-o-pages, and make a totally cool sub plot" or I have 6 short stories and if I can like find a populest theme --- yadayadayada.

This is actually how very smart books find unusual plots. You have to keep it down to a few ideas though. So really, keep up with it, but don't kitchen sink everything.

Einstein came up with relitivity using similar methods.

"is there anything I wouldn't twist around to stick in there? And if so, what is my novel actually about?" -- you

A writer is a total whore to the story-- do it anyway you can.
 

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I did this with my first two novels, actually. By number 3, I had enough of a balance that I knew what I could fit in there and what I couldn't.

I don't think it's unusual at all.
 

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Restraint when Writing

Having numerous ideas is fine when you're outlining your novel, but remember 'that less is more' and limiting the amount of story ideas will serve to strengthen the manuscript. You can always write another story to include the themes not mentioned in your previous work. It isn't about the amount of ideas, but the quality and how your write them. It's great that you research historic events that a reader might be interested in. Just make it your own while keeping true to the essence of the factual story. Also, I sometimes read book reviews on Amazon to see what worked for an author and what didn't.
 

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I do it. Sometimes you just have to bank them.
 

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Less is more. Don't overwhelm your story. Save a lot of those good ideas to showcase in future works.
 

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Can you weave all of those ideas into a coherent progression that gives the reader a story that doesn't seem like a patchwork of tangents bundled into a bale and held together with baling wire? We owe to our readers a damn good story. Good story doesn't always equal a bunch of good ideas thrown together. Do you have a really good story-related reason for including each one of those good ideas? If so, proceed with passion...
 

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Include everything you want.
Do not give each idea equal importance in the story.
 
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