Identify the protag -- Psycho, The Fly, Saving Private Ryan,Being John Malkovich,etc.

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Most films have a definite protagonist, whose story we follow from start to finish. However, how do you define films which seems to shift its focus from one character to another as the plot progresses? I'm not talking about an ensemble protag, either.

Take Psycho, for example. Whose story are we following? Janet Leigh's character dies half-way through. Are we following her sister and her husband as they unravel the mystery, then? But the problem is, they didn't become the focus until Act II. Are we following Norman Bates, then, as a villain protagonist? But what becomes the antagonistic force in this case, then?

Or take The Fly. It is a pretty conventional story in terms of the Three-Act Structure, but whose conflict is this? On the one hand, it is Brundle's story we're following, but on the other hand I seem to feel that from an emotional point of view the story isn't really belonging to him. Or am I wrong?

Take Saving Private Ryan, for example. Are we following Ryan? Then how would the Omaha Beach sequence and the crew of rescuers (in other words, 2/3 of the story) be accounted for? But it doesn't really seems right to think of Capt. Miller's company as the ensemble protag either, because how does that leave the opening and closing scenes with Private Ryan struggling with whether he has lived up to their memory? It just seems inelegant to consider them as a mere prologue and epilogue.

Being John Malkovich. Who the heck is the protag here?

Very interested to see your take on this.
 

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Saving Private Ryan is about saving private ryan. The protagonist would then be the person doing the saving. That is Capt. Miller. He's the focus the whole story, the goal is Ryan. Ryan, however, is not the protagonist he is the goal. The protagonist dies in this movie.

As for Psycho there's often a switcheroo in focus in horror because otherwise it takes too long to get into the story for the audience. Her sister is then the protagonist. She's the one who has to face Norman Bates. Norman Bates is the Antagonist so it works because he's there from the beginning and is a constant. He is definitely not a villian protagonist.

Jurassic Park even does this. It doesn't start with the two scientists, no it starts with the lawyer going to the dig site, which is where we catch a glimpse at the antagonist not even the antagonist themselves.

A protagonist is who has the most at stakes, the biggest goal, whatever. Norman does not, Janet's sister does. Her journey is finding out want happened to her sister. Through that journey she faces the antagonistic forces of Norman Bates, which are her stumbling blocks. Simply because Norman gets more screen time doesn't make him any less of an antagonist.
 

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A story is a story, is a story. I just accept them for what they are when I'm watching them. I do question other things about films though, but they are usually background things that would happen when the story's ended. For instance, when someone has commuted murders and yet they're supposed to be the goody in the film; Arnie, Bruce Willis etc. I want to know if they go to court and face trial and do they get away with it.