Does A Perfect Murder Exist?

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Okay, maybe not a perfect murder; no such thing there is always evidence.

If a character commits a 'vigilante'/revenge murder in my novel, would it be plausible for him to escape being caught?
 

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Yes, if he's smart. And lucky.

We can help you better if you're more specific!
 

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Yes. Many people get away with murder. Sometimes it planning and luck. Sometimes it's just luck.
 

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And if there is planning/luck, no one even knows it was murder.

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Motive: You have to eliminate motive. For a revenge killing, there should be a grace period between the incident which starts the character thinking murderous thoughts and the murder itself. Maybe time is of the essence, so a workaround would be to feign friendship, so that people would not connect the emnity which has arisen with the later murder. The other neat thing about planned murder is the opportunity to drop other people in the shit. especially if grudges exist elsewhere - it's killing two birds with one stone. Kill the first guy and set up the second guy.

Opportunity: Alibi is important is you want to get off the hook completely. It may seem like SF, but you can rig up a lethal device with minimal knowledge of electronics or explosives - especially since the internet is now all-pervasive. Are you planning on using something low-key or a flashier demise for the murdered character?

Ability: A murder which is obviously above the ability of the killer would be a good way to keep prying investigators off track. Reading up on the technique used, then feigning ignorance of the basic requirements is a simple way of 'proving' innocence, but there are a few ways I could see this being done that would be very quick for a killer to pick up.

Forensics: If you're gonna kill a person in their home you better have a previous meeting scheduled with them to handwave away any fingerprints or hairs found at the scene of the crime. During the commission of the murder the usual precautions would need to be taken, but having reason to be at a location doesn't hurt.

I haven't really thought of murdering anyone. Honest. :D
 

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Okay, maybe not a perfect murder; no such thing there is always evidence.

If a character commits a 'vigilante'/revenge murder in my novel, would it be plausible for him to escape being caught?

I think you're missing the best part. It's not a lack of evidence, or getting rid of said evidence. If it's a vigilante or revenge murder, what if he gets away with it because the public at large (in the people of the jury and in the court of public opinion) wants him to get away it? Not only does that make it interesting, it says something about the society and maybe our society, doesn't it?
 

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Thanks, some good things to be thinking about!

The way I'm think at the moment is a shooting, I think there will be a struggle with the gun.
 

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I think Poe got is done in the Rue Morgue...but I'm extremely biased toward that story.
 

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Okay, maybe not a perfect murder; no such thing there is always evidence.

If a character commits a 'vigilante'/revenge murder in my novel, would it be plausible for him to escape being caught?

Not sure - but I know the perfect victim...
 

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Does the perfect murder=not getting caught? It happens all the time. Jon Benet Ramsey.
The guy who killed a friend of mine would have gotten away with it if he didn't stop to shop.
 

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Perhaps for inspiration on a 'perfect murder', look up the film A Perfect Murder.

I'm afraid it has Michael Douglas in it but thankfully, unlike many of his other films, he doesn't walk around half naked, porking people non-stop.

And if you really want to do your homework, you could check out the play Dial M for Murder on which the film was based.

If you want a 'willing' victim for a murder, I'll nominate myself.

Rob.
 

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A perfect murder will depend on the definition, but it seems like there may be a few goals that would get you there. Some have mentioned these already, of course (clever and evil bunch that we are).

1. No one knows it was murder - looks like accident, suicide, person ran away; inherently unsatisfying because, well, no one knows it was murder!
2. Someone else is convicted of the murder; satisfying, especially if the person convicted knows you set them up.
3. You are tried and acquitted. This is my fave because it's only a perfect murder if people know it was murder, and it's perfect because you can brag about it thanks to double jeopardy!
4. A variation of 2., but results in your patsy getting the death penalty for a murder you committed.
 

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I think the OP is suggesting that the vigilante is tried and found not guilty because the victim deserved to be killed, similar to the subway killing in NYC.
If you want to put your life in the hands of jurors, think hard about it. Look at the OJ trial. Did they make a reasonable decision?
You'd be much better off, making sure you don't get caught in the first place.
 

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There are plenty of unsolved murders out there. If you want yours to be a shooting, have your character go for a walk in the woods in late November. Preferably without any blaze orange. Wearing white mittens would be even better. Some idiot shot a woman hanging laundry in her back yard (she was wearing white mittens, no orange, but seriously, right in her back yard) and got off.
 

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In addition to there being unsolved murders, there are deaths that appear to be non-criminal. I would be very surprised if a significant percentage of deaths that are called natural causes, or something, are not murders that were done well enough that the police did not suspect murder.

As an example, this year four men have been found dead in the meadows on Northampton, Mass. It is known that one of the men was fleeing the police, and it appears that he ran from his car into a pond and drowned; but the other three were homeless people who were found in the shallow water of ponds. It is entirely possible that one of the others accidentally wandered into a pond and drowned, but I doubt that it happened to all three. When I realized what happened to cases where men were found dead in the meadows, I started looking for people who deserved that. There weren't any in the area.
 

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There was a pathologist who used to live in my building who was also a gamer geek (like moi). This came up all the time. He had numerous suggestions for how to kill people that would never be noticed.

If the victim is elderly and frail, poison him. If there's no reason to suspect poisoning (no obvious person who wants the victim dead, no glass of tea smelling like almonds right next to the corpse) the pathologist will not order a tox screen, and will put down heart attack.

Stab him at an angle that would be a self-inflicted wound. Takes a fair amount of preparation and there are problems to be overcome, but this is also likely to pass the autopsy.

Of course neither of these will work if there's someone jumping up and down on TV screaming "It was murder!" but at least these could pass the medical examiner.
 

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Perhaps for inspiration on a 'perfect murder', look up the film A Perfect Murder.

I'm afraid it has Michael Douglas in it but thankfully, unlike many of his other films, he doesn't walk around half naked, porking people non-stop.

And if you really want to do your homework, you could check out the play Dial M for Murder on which the film was based.

If you want a 'willing' victim for a murder, I'll nominate myself.

Rob.

It also has a very sleazy Viggo Mortensen! The DVD I have has two endings and I cannot remember either of them! Dial M for Murder was filmed,directed by Sir Alfred Hitchcock. I watched it a couple of months ago - it has an 'old fashioned' feel to it but the plot is Good!
 

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Totally random? Sure.
But if there is revenge involved it's nearly impossible. There will almost always be some sort of clue and a smart cop will eventually uncover it.
 

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If you are going to be using a shooting, then may I suggest melting down the firearm used in the murder. If there is no weapon to compare ballistics to then that is a major part of the case against the character which is removed. They wouldn't be dumb enough to purchase the weapon legally either. :D
 

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No body, no murder. Perfect.

No murder weapon leaves a murder investigation. A missing person investigation is weak.
 

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Quicklime, pigs (they eat anything), acid and other methods turn up from time to time in novels and films, but unless you can remove every single piece of a corpse, completely, there will still be trace evidence. Using locations that are incredibly difficult to reach is a familiar way of concealment, but even bodies which are found atop Mt. Everest decades later can be positively identified. To get rid of a corpse so completely that there would be no trace whatsoever would take considerable lengths.