Dreams: A source of creation or destruction?

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Books on writing, the ones I’ve read, say keep them short or leave them out. But what about dreams as a source of inspiration, and no, I’m not talking about the dream of publishing a first novel, or for some another with a larger, more supportive publisher. At various voltages, a light shines in all of us. Drugs, of course, from caffeine to cocaine, can inspire paranormal sightings, produce work that is both manic and psychedelic. Rarely does it rest easily, or last the way a piece of rare statuary lasts. So where have they gone, these booze-free, tokeless dreams of ours? Have they died a natural death? Are you like me, a daytime dreamer who hasn’t had a nocturnal one to cling to since ten, when I flew over my neighborhood, flapping my arms, light as a leaf. Oh, to have that feeling again. I won’t. I blame it on Oprah, Brittany, and AOL’s teaser questions---usually preceded by celebrities, about whom they raise leering questions, for a long time about the couple who, after appearing on a reality show, divorced. Thinking there might be more important messages to ponder, should we stop mousing, write our last Twitter, bury our I-Phones, unplug the cable, and move to the country, where with our tent and pegs we could stake out a place under the stars, unroll our sleeping bag, and after closing our eyes, dream, really dream, and write down what we remember in the morning. After assembling all our dreams should we then try to fashion a novel that will make other people dream? Do you think that could happen? Are we capable of blocking it all out? Can we race toward the finish line with blinders on? Or will we, no matter how hard we try to resist, be thrown off stride by an e-mail, a text-message, or something unexpected, a credit alert, say, that tells you your identity has been stolen and that you now have charge accounts in twenty-eight states, most with large balances. At times like that Thoreau’s way of living shines like the star we’ve been searching for.
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I still dream at night, and I dream very vividly. *shrugs*

This. For some reason lately I've been racking up the robot dreams(including robot bears.) Strange.

I have no idea what the OP was trying to say, but I suspect it demonstrates 3, 4, and 6 on the Slushkiller list.

ETA: I had a really cool dream recently, vivid and stark. I quickly jotted everything down in my Ideas file in case I want to use it some day. One day, maybe.
 
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I don't find my dreams very inspiring. I almost always forget them, and when I don't, they're very boring/ordinary. If they're extraordinary, they tend to be, uh... stupid. Fact of the matter is, anything your dreaming unconsciousness can come up with, your undreaming consciousness can come up with, and do much better, because it operates with all the benefits of rationality.
 

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A dream worked for Stephenie Meyer.

Dreams don't help me, but some of my best ideas have come when I'm trying to fall asleep. It's why I keep a notebook next to my bed.
 

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A wet dream worked for Stephenie Meyer.

Dreams don't help me, but some of my best ideas have come when I'm trying to fall asleep. It's why I keep a notebook next to my bed.

Fixed for you! Not sure if that's the most inspiring example, anyway. Coleridge is a better one, I think, and he had some serious help from the opium.
 

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D'oh! I knew I forgot a word. Yes, wet dream indeed. Inspiring or not, that effing dream worked for her. And we're all suffering the consequences.
 

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Despite many wonderful (and possibly apocryphal) stories of books appearing in the dreams of authors who have been indulging in alcohol or stronger substances, I have to point out that this doesn't work for everyone. There are many drugs which I have had zero memorable dreams after taking, and I mean no memory whatsoever of dreaming. My sleep is disrupted as it is, and taking drugs only makes more problems.

Others may find that using drugs or drink to nudge their work along is benefitial, but for me it is a hinderance.
 

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Books on writing, the ones I’ve read, say keep them short or leave them out. But what about dreams as a source of inspiration, and no, I’m not talking about the dream of publishing a first novel, or for some another with a larger, more supportive publisher. At various voltages, a light shines in all of us. Drugs, of course, from caffeine to cocaine, can inspire paranormal sightings, produce work that is both manic and psychedelic. Rarely does it rest easily, or last the way a piece of rare statuary stands lasts. So where have they gone, these booze-free, tokeless dreams of ours? Have they died a natural death? Are you like me, a daytime dreamer who hasn’t had a nocturnal one to cling to since ten, when I flew over my neighborhood, flapping my arms, light as a leaf. Oh, to have that feeling again. I won’t. I blame it on Oprah, Brittany, and AOL’s teaser questions---usually preceded by celebrities, about whom they raise leering questions, for a long time about the couple who, after appearing on a reality show, divorced. Thinking there might be more important messages to ponder, should we stop mousing, write our last Twitter, bury our I-Phones, unplug the cable, and move to the country, where with our tent and pegs we could stake out a place under the stars, unroll our sleeping bag, and after closing our eyes, dream, really dream, and write down what we remember in the morning. After assembling all our dreams should we then try to fashion a novel that will make other people dream? Do you think that could happen? Are we capable of blocking it all out? Can we race toward the finish line with blinders on? Or will we, no matter how hard we try to resist, be thrown off stride by an e-mail, a text-message, or something unexpected, a credit alert, say, that tells you your identity has been stolen and that you now have charge accounts in twenty-eight states, most with large balances. At times like that Thoreau’s way of living shines like the star we’ve been searching for.
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If you want to remember your dreams, keep a notebook next to where you sleep. Say to yourself, "I'd like to begin remembering my dreams." As you remember the tiniest bits of dreams, write them down. Go back to sleep. Continue the process.

Going to the country and withdrawing from technology will give you time in which to reflect, but we can't run from that inner itch. It's our state of consciousness from which we run. Our chaotic society came about from mass avoidance of that inner itch.

Drugs are like a lazer beam boring far past our present readiness for awakening. Working with ourselves and trusting what comes ever so gradually opens us. Such gradual work may feel extremely slow, but our awareness rises like an ocean of realization. There's no comparison. That's one reason we have so many difficulties when we rely on drugs.

Patient--though often exaspirating--inner work reveals our innate inner clarity, which directly effects everything about us, including our writing. :hooray:
 

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Sometimes when I'm sleeping I dream I'm reading a book and when I wake up I have a vague recollection of how awesome the book was and think about writing it even though I have only the slightest idea of what it was about.
 

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I could be the next Edgar Allen Poe if I wrote down all my dreams. Even now, in my 40s, I get terrifying nightmares and I have wierd dreams nightly. But I'm afraid I'll scare myself. On the other hand, some of my dreams are absolutely ridiculous. My husband tried to wake me up the other morning and I told him to wait a minute. Apparently, I told him that the idiot who made my burrito at Moe's put the meat beside the tortilla instead of in it and I had to tell him to fix it.
 

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I had a novel inspired by a dream. I ended up not using the scene that was in the dream (which was fairly well-structured) but had two scenes with similar elements.
 

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dreams are the subject of a LOT of my stories. Beside my bedside right now i have my "story Ideas" book and a notepad. The notepad records whatever fucked up thing just happened in my head, and when I wake up I write it more longform into my story ideas book.

I have at least 4 novels ready to write based on dreams.

My current WIP is based on a dream.
 

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I am yet to have a dream inspire a novel, or anything of the sort. I occasionally have vivid dreams, but even so, I've never gotten an idea out of a dream. Day-dreams are another story, though.
 

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I am yet to have a dream inspire a novel, or anything of the sort. I occasionally have vivid dreams, but even so, I've never gotten an idea out of a dream. Day-dreams are another story, though.

I often immerse myself in whatever I'm researching or watching on tv as a hobby. Take for example, dexter, or dollhouse. I'll watch an entire season of it in a matter of days. Its not surprising then that I have dreams that are clearly inspired by these concepts.

Obviously if they were carbon copies of the material it wouldn't be interesting, but when I have the dream and wake up and write it down, by the time its actually written, the inspiration is unintelligible.

I honestly don't remember what inspired my post apocalyptic religion is the enemy story. It doesn't matter now though. Although I do remember the dream.
 

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Another "pedantic and shallow" observation about dreams: our focus broadens as we get older because we have, with our fading eyesight, a long way to look back.
 

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My dreams are always storylines great for erotic/romance. I guess that's what being abstinent gets you.

(BTW, I always wake up before that happens--the dream is always just the build up to that.)
 

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My dreams are usually awesome. When I remember them, that is.
 

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My current novel is actually based on a dream. Well, maybe inspired is a bit more accurate. It was just a case of having a really awesome, vivid dream, but what caught my attention was actually the character in it. I was completely in love, and I woke up certain of one thing--I wanted to write that dude. I had to come up with a story that actually made sense for the characters and take out the wacky dream elements, but the characters themselves are straight from the dream (even the names I remembered), and I've got one scene in particular that actually happens pretty much word for word the way it does in the dream. Otherwise it really was a great starting point.
 

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hmmm... I dream wildly. I mean, they are crazy.

And I use dreams in my stories as well. pplllfffttt if anyone doesn't like it - they are an excellent info delivery system, especially if you have telepathic beings and you use it carefully.
 

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I find the more I write my dreams down, the more dreams I subsequently remember.
 

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You guys gotta learn to lucid dream :)

Or at least to wake oneself after a good dream. If I didnt wake up I couldnt remember anything in the morning (and that happened so many times). Then I learnt to wake up and write it down, no matter how stupid.
 

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Yes, yes. "Must wake up, must wake up" works much better than "Must remember. Must remember, when I wake up." *mutters incoherantly*

Btw, slapping yourself IN the dream sometimes helps to achieve the waking. Ahem, least for me :)
 
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