Referencing a hospital A&E in dialogue

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I feel a bit silly for asking this, but as it happens, I've never had to write in fiction, until now, anything about A&E's, and I was wondering what the convention was for such an occurrence.

Currently, my character says: [FONT=&quot]"Given what happened in a and e the other day..."

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But I thought it looked ridiculous. To go the full hog and have her say, '...in accident and emergency...' is overkill and not what she would normally say. So what's the correct way?

Punctuation? Capitalisation? Deletion?.. (Okay, maybe not that last one), or am I already doing it right and it's just me being picky?

Would appreciate some input.

Thanks in advance.

Rob.

PS. Given how many questions I've asked on here in the last week or so, I might end up just outsourcing my next project to the cheapest volunteer.
 

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I always imagine it said "A&E", as if it is a single word. But if you're not going to go down that route best is probably "A and E". Not capitalising them just looks weird.
 

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I'd go for: A and E or A & E.
 

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Just a comment, if you're hoping that maybe your story will also get published in the US, the term "a and e" isn't used here. Here, the terms are "emergency room" or just "emergency". I would be thrown reading "a and e" if there wasn't at least some other reference to what the term meant. I've read quite a few books published in the UK and I don't think I've ever come across the term "a and e". My first thought on seeing "a & e" is the Arts & Entertainment TV channel.

If this is for something just for the UK market, then, of course, ignore my comments.
 
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In the UK, wouldn't we say "In casualty..." ?

Good question. Thinking about it properly, I suppose 'casualty' would be appropriate, however, I know for a fact that the Luton and Dunstable Hospital just round the corner form me is very clearly marked 'Accident & Emergency'.

If it is an Americanism, I guess it's one that has become fairly commonplace and is widely accepted as normal these days. I suppose that's why I immediately went for that phrase.

I always imagine it said "A&E", as if it is a single word. But if you're not going to go down that route best is probably "A and E". Not capitalising them just looks weird.

Agreed on the caps. The reason I avoided using the ampersand is because I wasn't sure if it would be appropriate. A bit like when referring to currency, Instead of writing £10, it's preferred that it be put down as ten pounds.

I'll go with the caps unless someone has a better argument for switching to casualty or writing it in a nother method... Any takers?


[EDIT] Just seen AlleyCat's reply that appeared while typing everything above. That's interesting and well worth noting. Thank you. I guess I'll have to work it in somehow. After all, I'm not discouting the idea of one day getting published, and if I ever do, I'd like it to be accessible for other countries. I'm defintely outsourcing my next project. :)
 
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Honestly, if I was talking about the hospital to someone, I'd say "I had to pay a visit to the casualty department."

Or, if I just used the one word, I'd capitalise it. "I had to pay a visit to Casualty."
 

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I prefer A & E. A and E looks odd, as if you were talking about two friends but didn't want to reveal their identity. It looks to be the most common way of abbreviating it looking at the net.
 

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Just a comment, if you're hoping that maybe your story will also get published in the US, the term "a and e" isn't used here. Here, the terms are "emergency room" or just "emergency".

Most people in the US refer to it as "the ER" (the emergency room). As in, "I went to the ER last weekend because a car ran over my foot," or "Doctor So-and-so is in the ER right now."

I would be thrown reading "a and e" if there wasn't at least some other reference to what the term meant. I've read quite a few books published in the UK and I don't think I've ever come across the term "a and e". My first thought on seeing "a & e" is the Arts & Entertainment TV channel.

Ditto. I used to live in the UK and never heard "A&E"--I heard it referred to as "casualty." And the Arts & Entertainment channel is what came to mind for me first, too.
 

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For some reason we always used to say 'Casualty' but now I find myself saying and hearing 'A&E' more often. I wonder if the proliferation of real-life hospital docs has played a part in that.
 

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Just a comment, if you're hoping that maybe your story will also get published in the US, the term "a and e" isn't used here.

I was just about to ask "What the hell is A&E?" There's a hardware store in my town called the A&E Hardware, but I kinda doubted that was it.

This is an instructional question that gets at a fairly major problem with the use of shortcut terms and acronyms in general. You do need to know your audience, and understand what they understand.

Then again, I live in a primitive place, so my standard of understanding might not be useful.

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I finished typing the project up and am now in the process of reading through and proofing.

This thread, the replies I've received, it's been educational. I had no idea A&E was such a new or unknown phrase.

I've restructered the offending sentence in such a way that I can use the full reference rather than a shortended version. I think it appears again later on though so will have to keep and eye out.

Thanks y'all!
 

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Most people in the US refer to it as "the ER" (the emergency room). As in, "I went to the ER last weekend because a car ran over my foot"

Could ER or Emergency Room be replaced with Emergency? I went to emergency (Emergency?).
 

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Could ER or Emergency Room be replaced with Emergency? I went to emergency (Emergency?).

No.

Emergencies are something you have ("we had a health emergency last weekend and had to go to the ER") or something that exists ("there was some kind of emergency at work"), not a place that you go.
 

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We also say "Emergency Room." It depends on who's talking and in what context. Hospital, police, fire, and ambulance people will use the shorthand "ER," but most folks will say, "I spent four hours in the emergency room last night..."
 
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