Time Stamps on E-mail Queries

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WistfulWriter7

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I have no idea if this was ever asked before, but I was wondering if it looks unprofessional to send an e-mail query at an odd hour say...330am. I go to school during the day, work and workout in the evenings, and get to my writing somewhere around midnight. Because of this I may have to send my queries very late (or very early depending on how you look at it). My question is: Does this look bad to agents? Thanks a bunch, Jen
 

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I would say it doesn't matter one bit what time you send a query. I couldn't imagine an agent caring.
 

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I would say it doesn't matter one bit what time you send a query. I couldn't imagine an agent caring.

Yeah, exactly. Just like they're not going to care if you drop a snail mail query in the mail at 2 in the morning. Go forth and query boldly. :)
 

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Agreed with aadams and KTC. I'm sure agents and editors get my queries at all kinds of weird hours, since I live on the other side of the world. In fact, my super late e-mails actually sparked a conversation with an editor (who asked why I was up so late while we were shooting e-mails back and forth) that spawned a lunch together when I was in the States...so hey, you never know. ;)
 

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I think of all the things t o be judged on with a query, the time/date stamp is really low on the list. I mean, do YOU look at the time? I know I look at the recipient and the subject line unless I actually care when it was sent (and then, I'm only looking for day, not time.)

I should hope being nocturnal is not considered unprofessional.

And really, it's the writing that trumps all.
 

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Jeez, I hope not. I'm a nocturnal son-of-a... yeah.

I really don't think they care. They care about writing. They do care about professionalism, I'm sure. But I know lots and lots of writers who are freakin' vampires. (Don't come out in the sunlight.) I'd assume that agents know a lot of these writers too. :)
 

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That's a good question right now.
No. It doesn't matter an iota. While I understand this is a sincere question and concern from the OP, worrying about such minor details as this just provides another excuse to not submit your work.
 

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From stories that have been shared on AW even some agents send replies back a 'strange' times.

I wouldn't worry about. (Good luck, by the way.)
 

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Most unpublished writers have day jobs and not all of them live in New York (neither do all agents, but that's another tale). Most agents are smart enough to realize.
 

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From stories that have been shared on AW even some agents send replies back a 'strange' times.

I wouldn't worry about. (Good luck, by the way.)

Yup. I had one in my inbox this morning that was sent at 1:29am.
 

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I don't think it really matters to them. Besides, most writers I know are either nocturnal, or do their best writing in the wee hours of the night. :p ... I know I'm one of those writers. :p
 

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Call me paranoid, but if I wrote the e-mail draft at an eerie hour, I'd save it and click the "Send" button during business hours. I've been to writing conferences where I hear people are judged on their appearance--are their clothes nice? Do they shower? Do they take care of their teeth? All these things are meaningless and superficial, but supposedly give a sense of professionalism and stability.

I dress professionally at conventions and send e-mails during daylight hours to promote that sense of reliability/stability. I want to be clean-cut and rock-steady while I'm on the agent hunt. I can let my hair down and stop covering my natural weirdness once I've been published a few times.
 

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Call me paranoid, but if I wrote the e-mail draft at an eerie hour, I'd save it and click the "Send" button during business hours. I've been to writing conferences where I hear people are judged on their appearance--are their clothes nice? Do they shower? Do they take care of their teeth? All these things are meaningless and superficial, but supposedly give a sense of professionalism and stability.

I dress professionally at conventions and send e-mails during daylight hours to promote that sense of reliability/stability. I want to be clean-cut and rock-steady while I'm on the agent hunt. I can let my hair down and stop covering my natural weirdness once I've been published a few times.

I'm sorry but I don't see the connection between an email time stamp and presenting oneself professionally at conferences.In fact, one could argue that sending agent queries during business hours (when most hopefuls are working day jobs) actually looks just as unprofessional as sending them in the evening.

And, for the record, I've spent years wearing suits and working in corporate offices.
 

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The vast majority seems to feel one way on this issue; I'm just presenting my honest, differing opinion. No need to challenge me on it.

If agents look for "Does she shower?" and "Does she brush her teeth?", how do I know I'm not being judged on, "Does she ever sleep?" or "Can she be available during normal working hours?"
 

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The vast majority seems to feel one way on this issue; I'm just presenting my honest, differing opinion. No need to challenge me on it.

I saw Kathleen's post a respectful disagreement with your opinion, perfectly acceptable on a discussion forum.

I realize it's hard to be the first or only one to offer an opinion contrary to the majority, but really, I'm confused as to why you see her post as needless. Her disagreement isn't any more needless than yours. I'm sure the OP and others who may be curious about this appreciate the discussion, including your contribution. :)
 

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The vast majority seems to feel one way on this issue; I'm just presenting my honest, differing opinion. No need to challenge me on it.

I'm simply responding to what you posted. I'm not challenging you, just the notion.
 

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Just to skip over the water here...

I really think that at the end of the day, your writing will be ultimately what grabs someone's attention.

As long as you don't look like you just rolled out of bed or reek of alcohol thats probably good enough.

I do not think that I would go to a conference wearing a nice suit or any such thing. I am not applying for a career type job.

If I wanted to keep my day job, and wear the suits, and act "Professional" I would stay with what I do.

That doesn't mean I condone acting UNPROFESSIONAL, simply that I have no intention of mimicing my current work environment in a writing career.
 

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If I wanted to keep my day job, and wear the suits, and act "Professional" I would stay with what I do.

Secretly, I sort of miss wearing my suits. The company I'm working for now is very casual and only requires business attire for client facing employees.
 

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Call me paranoid, but if I wrote the e-mail draft at an eerie hour, I'd save it and click the "Send" button during business hours. I've been to writing conferences where I hear people are judged on their appearance--are their clothes nice? Do they shower? Do they take care of their teeth? All these things are meaningless and superficial, but supposedly give a sense of professionalism and stability.

I dress professionally at conventions and send e-mails during daylight hours to promote that sense of reliability/stability. I want to be clean-cut and rock-steady while I'm on the agent hunt. I can let my hair down and stop covering my natural weirdness once I've been published a few times.

IME, agents understand and expect that writers have day jobs and lives, and almost expect communications at odd hours. FWIW, I've not only sent emails to agents at all hours, I've received some frome agents at all hours. Hell, many agents and editors pop up on my twitter feed at all hours.

While I agree with you about the professional appearance re clothing/personal care, and I would agree that your emails themselves should be appropriately professional, the timing is, IMO, irrelevant.

And, FWIW, my interactions with agents at conferences have also run the gammut from business attire at more professional and national conferences, to appropriately comfy wear at writing retreats. it's all about knowing the environment and expectations.

On emails, content and appearance of the emails needs to be professional, but I agree with another poster that I'd be more concerned with sending a writing-related email during my day-job hours reflecting badly on my professionalism more than sending one at 3 am.

~suki
 

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Secretly, I sort of miss wearing my suits. The company I'm working for now is very casual and only requires business attire for client facing employees.

My company is pretty much that way too. I'm wearing a ball cap and a polo. I do not miss having to wear any kind of formal attire.
 

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I say worst-case-scenario you're deemed an insomniac or a workaholic. If you are fine with a presumptive label, then I say send away. If the label makes you want to scream and say "Wait! No I'm not!" then save it as a draft until the AM before work (even 6am looks better than 3am).

I do not in any way think that either of these labels would put you in a category of "unprofessional", but that's just a personal opinion. I suppose though, if an agent was that against it, you might "label" them back as being "too uptight" to work with anyway. ;)
 

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Haha...okay well I was just double checking. If agents get picky over a # symbol versus a star symbol breaking scenes, I was worried they might care about when they get e-mails. I think I'll just keep sending my e-mails when I have time. I am pretty nocturnal so if they have a problem with that, they will probably have a problem with me. Thank you everyone for your input.
 

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Haha...okay well I was just double checking. If agents get picky over a # symbol versus a star symbol breaking scenes, I was worried they might care about when they get e-mails. I think I'll just keep sending my e-mails when I have time. I am pretty nocturnal so if they have a problem with that, they will probably have a problem with me. Thank you everyone for your input.

Lordy. If an agent ever rejects me because I use # between scenes, they are probably not the right agent for me.
 

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Not only have I sent queries out at odd hours (rarely before midnight, east coast time - I don't know what time that would be in Baboonistan, though ) but I've gotten responses at odd hours - both offers and rejections. Gives me hope that 5pm on a Friday doesn't necessarily mean I have to pace until Monday morning. :D
 
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