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ejwriter

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i know cover art has become a hot topic on a couple of the more popular literary agent blogs lately, so that was top of mind for me today when i stepped into borders and saw two identical images on the front of new releases - both hardcovers, both on the same shelf, looking practically like the same book.

what a bummer for the authors. though, i have to say, it's a cool cover, even if has a twin.
i'm not good with the posting-pictures-high-techy stuff, but here is a link to an article i found about the very covers i saw:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/shortstack/2009/03/mysterious_cover_art.html

it has pictures. :)

sorry if this is old news. if so, move along, move along...
 

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That would really suck for the authors. I don't think most people realise that almost all covers are made up of stock art, and not specifically photographed or illustrated for that novel. There are heaps of examples on the 'Totally Looks Like...' site. Though usually the novels at least come out at different times!
 

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Thanks for the link.

That sucks for both writers. Wonder what the publishers think about all this? You would think with all the art work there is around the world that the photographer would have some kind of thing they would have to sign something along the lines of 'only one' being used for a book. I mean, he can take that pic and do a bunch more that would only be a 'tad' bit different and have a whole row of basically the same pic.
 

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I seriously don't know how I'd react if I was one of those authors. It's so eerie.
 

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Geez, I thought this only happened to PA books.

Well, there's this book from a local author with a near-identical cover to a popular book on display in the megachains, but this is a tomato, not an apple:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1607431718/?tag=absolutewritedm-20

Maybe those image places are going to start having "purchase uses" for each pics, so at least when you order a pic you can see if any other uses conflict - "Nonexclusive rights to this image were purchased Jan 14, 2009 for a book cover." Feel free to buy nonexclusive rights to also use it as YOUR book cover...
 

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How sad.

Reeks of laziness.

It just seems that with all the photographers/artists, etc. that it should only cost a small fraction of the printing costs to come up with a unique cover.

In fact, if I were to be creative. I would come up with a concept sheet detailing what you were looking for in the cover, and then just hold a competition at a few highschools / colleges. For a few hundred dollars offered as first and second place, I'd bet you'd get a ton of original entries, hand drawn, photoshop, and photos, etc.

sigh

just seems so wrong :(

Mel...
 

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Weird.

Every book I've had done has had a painted cover, except for the Dr. Who book, which used selected photographs from the earlier shows.

If even Byron Preiss can fork out the money for painted covers, then there's no excuse for a major publisher not to.
 

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Allow me to get up on my soap box.

There was a golden age of cover art. It is past now. There was a golden age of animation. Once Hayao Miyazaki dies or retires, it will also pass. I am sad for the loss of both golden ages.

I'm an artist, although not an especially good one, and not a professional. However, I have a very large family and a good chunk of my clan are professional artists of one type or another. My father and grandfather were both quite well-known painters who made comfortable livings from their art. I miss the golden age of illustration, not only because of the fresh, vibrant, and unique covers, but because it represents the decline of an entire profession. To me, who was raised in a family dependent upon this profession, this represents a loss of livelihood for real people. It's not just the authors who suffer when their unique, hard-won books come from the publishers looking like cookie cutters.

It used to be that publishers staffed or regularly contracted with hard-working professional artists who devoted entire careers to creating gorgeous oil paintings that would be used for one book cover alone (although some did get recycled, especially in the romance and pulp sci-fi publishing world.) These were artists with a great understanding of anatomy, of color and composition, and of action. They were paid enough to make a passable living off their work. They were respected.

Today, it's stock, stock, stock. And most of that stock comes from small stock web sites like shutterstock, where the photographers are paid dismal wages for the use of their images. There are very few photographers who can make all of their living -- or even a significant part of their living -- from shooting stock. I once tried to shoot stock photography to make a little extra cash here and there, back when I was working as a wedding photographer. It was so hard and expensive to get images sharp enough, interesting enough, and well-lit enough to make the cut even onto the cheap sites that payed squat that I gave it up in disgust.

So authors lose, artists lose, and photographers lose. The publishing houses save money, but they produce a product that looks careless because it resembles other products. It's lost its shiny, exciting wrapping. It's just another book on the shelf. The process hurts the economy, because less money goes into the hands of artists and photographers, and when you don't pay artists and photographers, the terrorists win!

It's just like the unrenaissance that's happened in animation. Look at the old Disney classics. Look at Dreamworks' stuff from the early 90s. Don Bluth. Nepenthe Productions. Studio Ghibli. This was all living, breathing, moving art. The product was exciting, moving, and different from other products. It was unique. Now you look at the stuff that's coming out of animation studios and you see the same thing everywhere. The same textures, the same colors, the same creepy children with freckled skin straight out of Uncanny Valley, the same same same same. CG animation is loads cheaper to produce than traditional animation, so that's what the studios crank out. And it feels cranked out. It feels cheap, careless, and disposable. There are a few exceptions like Finding Nemo and Wall-E, but these are largely saved by good writing, not by art. It's sad. It's really, really sad.

When you throw away unique, beautiful art forms like cel animation and individually illustrated book covers, we all lose. And Libbie cries inside.

I am now removing myself from my soap box. Thank you for reading my melancholy rant.

(MAROOOOONED!)
 

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The main problem I can see is that someone might not buy one because they have the other (not that I'd buy either-- the plots sound horrible. The second one sounded like an Ed Wood Movie. Atomic Vampires and stuff. ).
 

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How sad.

Reeks of laziness.

It's not laziness on the part of the designers. They are doing what they are told to do. I did some freelance work on a cover and the only reason the publisher agreed to hire a photographer was that they loved my concept and could not find a suitable picture at a stock company.
 

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You would think that for a book that will sell well, they would go to the trouble and fairly modest expense of getting an exclusive license.
 

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The main problem I can see is that someone might not buy one because they have the other (not that I'd buy either-- the plots sound horrible. The second one sounded like an Ed Wood Movie. Atomic Vampires and stuff. ).

I used to beta for a writer who had this happen to her. Her book hit the stands ONE MONTH after another book in the same genre, with almost the same title, AND almost the same color (background color was different--that was pretty much it). To add insult to injury, both authors had the same first name and last initial.

Needless to say, my friend's sales tanked because the readers thought they'd already read the book. Which is a shame, because it's one of the best she's ever written, IMHO.

Yeah, when covers (or other things) are too close, readers don't look twice when they think they've already been there, done that.
 

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Hard to figure out how generic covers can sell a book better than bespoken art. I'm sure I'm not alone in picking up books based on attractive covers; what are their marketing people thinking of?
 

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Hard to figure out how generic covers can sell a book better than bespoken art. I'm sure I'm not alone in picking up books based on attractive covers; what are their marketing people thinking of?

No, you're not alone. I am so in love with golden-age illustration that I actually collect books just for their cover art. I've got a great collection of pulps going back into the 1920s, and I'm always on the lookout for original paintings that were used as book covers.

I think the marketing people are thinking of the bottom line, and for novels that get small advances, no publicity funding, and aren't expected to sell out their first printing, the cheaper they can be with cover art, the better.

Very sad, because it's so, so true that people judge books by their covers. These books would probably make MORE money in the end if a little more care was put into the covers. But there's no guarantee they'll make money at all, so why bother?

Incidentally, the Smart Bitches, Trashy Books blog has some fun and funny posts about romance cover art. Among the good-natured ribbing of awful covers you can find posts about reused and overused stock images on covers. The flippy skirt with the walking legs is one that seems to haunt women's fiction and romance. Check out the blog's list of tags to find their great cover-art posts.
 

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Allow me to get up on my soap box.

(snip)

I'm not sure this applies to all genres. It seems most rampant in mainstream/literary fiction, where for whatever reason, people seem to desire something that has very little to do with the story on the cover.

If I browse the fantasy titles at my library, every cover is a unique piece of art, and often quite lovely. This doesn't make much sense to me, since mainstream fiction probably sells more and could afford a higher budget for art, but maybe really simple covers sell better?
 

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Yes, cover art is still alive and well in fantasy and sci-fi. That's good to see. And just about any author who's already proven he or she can sell books will usually have nice, unique covers. That's what makes me think it's due to publishing firms not wanting to spend a single cent more than they have to on "risky" new authors.

It's definitely not just mainstream and literary, though. Romance used to have the most incredible (if gloriously cheesy) cover paintings. Now it's almost entirely stock photos, typically the same few images reused for nearly all releases throughout the year for new authors' works. Historical fiction tends to get very bland cover art, such as a solid color with fancy-pants scrolly font, but no images from the novel. Or, the image of a painting that's in the public domain will be used. I don't pay a ton of attention to horror and mystery, but I've noticed some depressingly similar covers on new mystery novels when I cruise through bookstores.

YA still seems to enjoy unique covers, but with so many similarly themed YA books coming out, I can see the trend of throwing a stock photo at a book coming around to YA as well.

Hopefully, with more publicity such as the linked article, publishers will start to realize that folks don't particularly like this trend.

Edited to add: I think the prevalence of great art on f/sf novels has a lot more to do with how active the short-story community is for this genre. There are a lot of magazines, especially online magazines that are highly accessible to readers of the genre. They publish great stories that readers are excited about, and nearly all of them buy wonderful art to decorate each issue, whether it's a print or PDF issue. I believe quality, exciting art is just expected by readers of the genre.
 

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Edited to add: I think the prevalence of great art on f/sf novels has a lot more to do with how active the short-story community is for this genre. There are a lot of magazines, especially online magazines that are highly accessible to readers of the genre. They publish great stories that readers are excited about, and nearly all of them buy wonderful art to decorate each issue, whether it's a print or PDF issue. I believe quality, exciting art is just expected by readers of the genre.

If you want to approach it from the "employment opportunities" angle, SF/F probably has a lot more cross-over as a form of media with other kinds of business. You've got a huge business in tabletop gaming/RPG games and also just video games that samples freely from SF/F tropes, and even sometimes licenses (i.e the whole category of D&D novels). So that's a lot of opportunity for there to be "fantasy" artists out there.
 

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In all fairness to the people designing these covers, they have no way of knowing that somebody else is using the same image at the same time. We can protest the use of stock photos if we want, but I am sure no company would willingly use the same photo as someone else if they knew. How could they find out? Even Google Images is based on a word search, not an image search.
 

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True. It's very likely that the people designing the covers don't know. I don't think it's the art departments' fault. I think it's the culture of publishing nowadays, that likes to use photos instead of paintings. And when art departments are instructed to save money, why not go with stock instead of commissioning a photograph? And what is cheaper than really cheap stock photography? Not much! A buck for an image? Hell yes! When your budget is slim for a given novel, why not pay a buck for one-time use of an easily found stock photo instead of a few hundred bucks for some original art, or for an exclusive license for that photo?

Really, if all the good photographers banded together and refused to submit their photos to the cheap agencies, this wouldn't be a problem. Nobody anywhere would have any choice but to either commission art/photos for covers, or pay good money for a photo, which would mean exclusive use.
 

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i agree, the artists wouldn't have known they were designing almost identical covers, especially given the timing of the releases - for all we know they picked the same shot on the same day. :tongue

it does make me wonder, though, why "cover art" seems to come up as this big "step" in the process when i see those lists of what goes on in the year or two between 'purchase and publish.'

if cover artists are using stock photos from generic databases, that's really not a time consuming process.
my boyfriend does graphic design and uses those stock shots to church out stuff in a day or so.

that's just my uninformed observation. feel free to correct me all you publishing pros. :D

p.s. just have to toot my own little horn for a second - i posted the link about the identical cover art in the comments section of nathan bransford's blog, and he gave me a little shout out in today's post.
toot toot! :e2bouncey
 
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