Phone number to editors - how do you do it?

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Phone numbers to editors - do you give time limits?

How do you give your phone number to editors who ask for it - do you give both your home number (I don't have a separate phone line for the biz at this time..) & cell phone number, & specify time when you are available (& how?) or..?

(I really hate being called and interrupted.. especially if in the middle of doing/writing something or having a brain-fog & I'd hate to have to expect calls all the time..)

So I was thinking of writing something like 'after 2pm' or so...? They probably work until 3pm or 4pm at least..
I can call them or talk to them earlier sometimes too, if needed, I just don't want to get interrupted doing other things, most people here have jobs until 3pm anyway...

What do you guys think?
 
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If you give them a time to call, they may or may not comply. If they're busy they may not think to see what times you're available.
Do you have caller ID, or an answering machine? Then if you're in the middle of something, you can screen your call and call them back when you're available. That also works well if you are dealing with editors in a different time zone.
I don't give the cell number - I find it difficult to get a business call when you're in the middle of the grocery store, or something like that. Home phone has always worked well for me.
 

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I second that. You can't control when people call, all you can control is when you pick up the phone. If you don't have caller ID or voicemail, get it.

Of course, the other alternative is email, which you can read and answer when you like. I actually can't remember the last time I needed to talk to an editor by phone. But I make appointments to call sources or to have them call me at specific times all the time, and even when they have suggested the time themselves and agreed to it, half the time the phone call does not happen at the appointed time. So I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that most editors are going to remember that you asked to be called only during a certain time period. Life's just too complicated.
 

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I do all my editor contact through email. I've only called editors when I'm in a panic and need help NOW. I haven't had an editor need to call me yet.

But...I give out my cell phone for professional use. Since I'm one of the older folks who hasn't grown up with a cell phone glued to my head, I don't use it too much. Plus my land line doesn't have caller ID (the cell does) and my cell phone isn't likely to be picked up by my toddler before I can get to it. My land line has a "family" message on it and my cell phone has a more professional sounding message.

If I'm out and about when the cell goes off, I can check the number before picking up. If I don't know who it is, they can leave a message and I'll back to them when I can give them my full attention.
 

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Thanks!

Very helpful info, I wish I had asked it before.. (& I felt REALLY silly for asking it!)
Now I've already given both cell phone & land line numbers, with a time to call.. ah well, we'll see how it goes!
We do have caller ID, & sometimes when I work on something that requires deep concentration I don't even have my cell phone with me, or have it on the quiet setting.. so I hope returning calls is okay..

I think I may have been too slow in responding to a rewrite by e-mail - what's the usual netiquette on this? I thought sending the rewrite before the new deadline would be okay, clearly it's better to respond right away to confirm the rewrite at least, even if you didn't fully rewrite it yet? It would probably be best to just call them, honestly have no idea why I didn't..? (except that I was in panic & didn't know that's when you need to call them! :))

I agree it's easier to talk about what direction the article needs to go by phone..
For those that do get calls from editors - what reasons do your editors call you for? (& how often and at what times?)
 

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Well, he replied by e-mail & said we'd talk tomorrow (afternoon) or in a day or two - apparently some rewrites are due - I really wish I had called him last week when I was thinking about how to do the rewrites myself!!

Lesson learnt - never try to mindread your editor! always ask or double-check when in doubt - I was wondering about some of the rewrites mentioned myself, sigh!
I feel really silly right now..
 

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Really, the last time I can remember talking to an editor by phone, it was that she needed my social security number and figured I wouldn't want to put it in an email.

If I got an email asking for a rewrite that was going to take more than a few hours, I'd email back acknowledging it so the editor was sure I got it and was working on it. If I had questions about the rewrite that I wasn't sure I could handle by email, I'd ask by email when was a good time to call.

Remember that if you feel interrupted by a phone call, so does your editor. Anything that isn't an immediate emergency is probably best dealt with by email unless you both decide by email that you need to talk about it by phone. And there's not that much that counts as an immediate emergency.
 

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Thanks!

I am still learning about these things, so this is really helpful..
Not wanting to interrupt the editor was also partly why I didn't call last week..
So more frequent e-mails may also do the trick.. Thanks! Will try to keep it in mind..
 

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Editors -- like so many of us -- each have their own preferred modes of communication. I have one editor who ALWAYS calls: with assignments, questions, follow ups, sometimes "to chat." Others prefer email; you'll be able to gauge after a while who prefers what.

I prefer e-mail but with the editor who prefers phone -- well, he IS the client. I've even asked him, for factchecking (which he does a lot of) PLEASE email so I can reply to the questions and type my answers, rather than logging in while we're on the phone, finding the file, etc. This is an assistant editor so I feel more comfortable making that request. STILL he calls. LOL

I agree, word for word, with what Sam said. I use my home phone, which has a professional sounding message although people, if they think about it, probably know they are reaching a home number, and I use caller ID if I choose not to answer. My cell phone gets text notifications that i received a voice mail on my home phone, so that gives me an opportunity to call right back if I need to.

When my daughter starts walking/talking/answering the phone, we may have to spring for a dedicated business line. I don't want to 'ban' her from answering the phone as it's an important responsibility to learn and a part of growing up. But no matter how well a child answers, I feel it can still sound unprofessional.
 

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I never call an editor to ask them something I can ask via e-mail unless it is an emergency. Asking an editor to not call during certain hours lessens your chances of being called at all. I wouldn't do it. If you are busy when they call, let them go to voicemail and return their call when you can. If you don't make it easy for them, they will typically just find someone who will.

Calling an editor is fine if you have something that can't wait, but typcially most times an e-mail will suffice.

I have editors that will call me if they want to run an idea by me or ask me to write something for them, but most often this is done by e-mail as well. Sometimes I'll have an editor call if they are interested in a query I sent. That is always nice. :)
 

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Thank you both!!

It is really helpful to see how other people do this.. & I have SOOO much to learn!! /sigh/

I will just tell you this: you will feel really silly after babysitting the phone for the whole day, waiting for the call, when you realize (at an ungodly hour) you have been called on the cellphone - & didn't hear it cause it was put on too quiet (in the other room)!! aargh!

I usually never have the cellphone with me due to health reasons, & to have peace while working etc. I just assumed I'd hear it from the other room anyway..

Yup, sooo much to learn still!!

I just hope to now do better & learn the ropes so I can impress other editors better..

Then there's also the question of the different cell phone & landline providers.. It seems we have different ones so long talks could get costly, I don't want to be inconvenient for them to call.. Am now thinking if meeting up live wouldn't be better if more would need to be discussed? Has anyone done this? (other writers told me they met up the editors to sign the contract & talk about assignments/projects anyway.. this is just a small local paper..) Don't dare to test my luck much any longer though, lol..

Sometimes I think I know a little bit about writing, & sometimes I feel like such a newbie.. (cell-phones did not even exist when I was last writing articles for money, in the previous century.. & that was totally different anyway..)
 

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Andreya,
My two cents? I wouldn't recommend a live meeting in lieu of phone calls. Follow the editor's lead. If he (or she) seems exceptionally friendly in the future, perhaps suggest a face-to-face, but more under the guise of "It would be great to meet you..." (ie, a shmoozefest.)

In-person meetings tend to disrupt a workday more than a phone call... I remember from my days working in magazine offices, it was always an "occasion" if a writer came to visit. I'd have to clean my desk, wear something other than jeans and a free t-shirt from one of our advertisers, and act like a "real grown-up." :D

You can totally redeem yourself from the phone call debacle... When you call him back, decide which number you prefer to be called on, and tell him to feel free to call you at that number at any time, and if you don't answer, you'll return the call within a day. :) No explanation needed, no long apology. It happens, people often aren't around to get calls. If you're in front of your computer a lot, you may recommend he e-mail if he needs an immediate answer...

Don't worry about the costs on the call... for either of you. He runs a business, he expects phone expenses and I'm sure he doesn't worry about it. YOU run a business... pick whichever phone is least expensive to use as your primary number and view the cost of the calls as a reasonable business expense, depending on your country's tax laws it may be a deduction. I truly feel it's unprofessional to complain about phone expenses. (I mean to an editor--gripe all you want to us! LOL
 

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lol Of course I wouldn't complain about phone expenses & such. (Okay, I did mention it as an excuse to get paid after the 1st article, & it seems it worked :))
It's actually most probably cheaper for me to call him from landline, than for him to call me.

I don't expect more than jeans, & this is just an assistant editor anyway.. I will follow his lead though, yeah..

I'm in front of the computer a lot, but didn't answer e-mails so promptly in the past, as I had to think things through & didn't know I was expected to answer immediately. (He didn't always answer immediately either, so I didn't know what the rules are on this.)

Elsewhere, an online friend said 'he might only love me more if I'm hard to get' lol - which kind of lightened up my spirit (although I don't fully believe it of course - but it's a fun idea to look at - apparently it worked in male-female relationships but I wouldn't go as far as to editors!!)
 

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I'm in front of the computer a lot, but didn't answer e-mails so promptly in the past, as I had to think things through & didn't know I was expected to answer immediately. (He didn't always answer immediately either, so I didn't know what the rules are on this.)

I don't know that there are "rules" per se, but always get back to them as soon as you can, even if it is just to ask them when they need the information by...

At least that is what I do...
 

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Thanks! That's a really good approach! (wish I'd thought of it sooner!)

And thank you all once again for the great info & all the help!

I *finally* called the editor today, & he was super-nice & apologized *to me* (!!) & thanked me for my patience (!) - he said there was already more work in this article than in most of the others, so he told me what to change/improve - hopefully I'll be able to do it!
He also asked if I'd be ready to do more work for them, on other topics too, & I said yes, according to previous agreement..
He's going on vacation so I'll talk to the other editor, but they're definitely interested in the topic & the article!

I also asked for their working hours & when to call, so now I know their working schedule & it will be muuch easier to know when to call!
 

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Don't know how resolved things got for you, but I figured I'd share what I do, personally:

I used to give out a pre-paid cell number that I kept on my desk for work only. I used it to call interviewees because long distance was the same price as local calling. When I got busier, I set up a cheap ($10/month) VOIP phone line with my very own work phone number and answering machine so that even if I miss a call, I have a professional inbox. :)
 

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Thanks!

I'm still figuring things out as I go, so all info & experience is really helpful!

It's good to see how other people do it & that there is no 'one correct way', a lot of different things seem to work well for different people - very cool to get inspired & get ideas!

Has anyone got any experience with calling or giving phone numbers to people from different time zones?
 

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I usually google the time zone difference before I make a call (if it's not one I'm familiar with) to be sure I'm not calling at a ridiculous hour.

A lot of times, if I leave my phone number with someone and they live in a different time zone, I say, "You can reach me at 555-555-5555... I'm in the Eastern time zone." That way, they can look it up if they need to before calling back.

If I'm offering particular hours to reach me, I give it in my time zone and say, "My time" or "eastern time."

After a while, when I'm dealing with repeat clients, we come up with a standard... for instance, when I was working with a Utah company, we tended to default to Mountain time. But with a current client in California, we tend to use Eastern time. I don't know why. I follow the client's lead.

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