Middle Grade vs Young Adult

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Okay, I was going to just google this, but I've found that this site is the most helpful writing resource out there for me, so I thought I'd give this a try.

I am currently working on my second novel (technically it's my forth, but if it's the start of a second series) and I think it's a really good idea. I'm a person with a lot on my mind, so it's going to at least be like four or five books at the least.

I've started writing it as a middle grade novel, but I'm not sure if I should keep it that way and just make it young adult. The themes are simplistic: good vs evil/light vs dark kind of thing. I guess you can call it a fantasy, but not it's not creatively another world type deal.

The characters, what happens to some of them, the relationships, and some of the bad guys are pretty dark. The good guys are corrupted, tempted, fall into darkness, and so on. That's why I'm thinking that maybe it's not middle grade appropriate.

I did read that it can depend on your main character, but the main characters of the story ranges from seven to fifteen.

I guess if I'd have to compare it to anything, I would compare it to Avatar: The Last Air Bender.

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So far nothing you've said suggests to me you need to go to YA. My MG has a character tempted by "the dark side". My bad guys are pretty bad, they kill people, people we have grown fond of, and there is even mild torture in it (if torture can ever be mild). MG allows for a fair bit of darkness (think Neil Gaiman's The Graveyard Book which begins with a murderer killing off an entire family minus one) and violence. What it is less tolerant of is sex. Which is of course kind of depressing but the truth. Sexual tension can be played out to childhood crushes and possibly first kisses, but it really doesn't go much further than there.

So basically I think you are okay at least with what you've posted about here.
 

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Of course I'm not planning to write about sex, but the relationships are one thing. The kids grow up throughout the books and even before that there are relationships. Nothing evolves past kissing, but there is a lot of relationship stuff and some of it can get kind of twisted.

People are going to die, there are wars, there are quests for revenge, there's Japanese type mafia people, and there is like a concentration camp for some types of people. It's nothing compared to the Holocaust or near that brutal, but people are picked out for being different, taken from their homes, and kept as prisoners in camps where they are treated as freaks.
 

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Again, it's all in how you write it. I suggest picking up The Graveyard Book (you can pick up mine as well if you want :) ) and reading just what you can get away with in MG. It's up to you of course, and I really can't comment any further without reading your book, but everything you've said you could do in MG. However if you want to make it a YA, if that's what you are getting at, then fine go for it. But there is no shame in MG. In fact I was on an author's panel recently with Tamora Pierce and she was saying she thinks MG is the most innovative category these days, even more so than YA, so just saying. Writing MG doesn't make your book more childish or less profound or whathaveyou.
 

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I agree with Toothpaste. Sounds fine for MG. Mine is pretty dark and my editor moved it from YA to MG. There's also upper MG, which sits a little on the fence between them. You might fall there.
 

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What they said. Children are perpetually underestimated. MG treads plenty of dark territory.

And yes! Read The Graveyard Book, because it's wonderful. (Both the Dave McKean version and the Chris Riddell version. They're equally stunning.) I read it mostly at work when the shop was quiet, and I kept silently willing the customers to go away so that I could keep reading :)
 
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