Agent's college major and after college.

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I have a couple questions for some literary agents. I'm interested in what do agents major in college in? English? Literature?

And how did you come to be an agent after college?

Just out of curiosity.
 

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Thanks for that link! =] I keep hoping that someone would do a step-by-step though. :tongue Or at least, how to make that jump from student to intern. (I hate that catch-22. You have to have experiences to be an intern...but you can't really get any experiences if you can't get an internship).
 

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Most agents started in editorial somehow. A few started in subsidiary rights. I was an English and Political Science major in college and was managing editor of the yearbook for two years. I attended the Radcliffe (now Columbia) Publishing Course the summer after graduation and started in subsidiary rights at S&S two weeks after that ended. I came to a parting of the ways with my bosses there after five or so months and went to Warner Books as an Editorial Assistant about a month later. Spent a little over a year there and started acquiring and editing titles while I was there. I left to go to Donald I. Fine, a small, hardcover house, where I started as an Assistant Editor/Rights Associate and was promoted after six months to Associate Editor/Rights Manager. I was there less than a year when I got offered a job as an Editor for The Berkley Publishing Group. I spent not quite a year-and-a-half there when my position was eliminated. I went freelance and read for BOMC and reviewed for KIRKUS. I also read for Jay Garon, who was John Grisham's agent at the time, and I became a Consulting Editor for the Forge Books imprint of Tom Doherty Associates. As a Consulting Editor, I acquired and edited titles for the house, just like being an editor in-house, but on a project basis. One author I was editing was a client of the Scott Meredith Literary Agency. When Scott died, three of the agents left to start a new firm, Scovil Chichak Galen Literary Agency. I approached Ted Chichak about coming on board as an agent, which I subsequently did. I spent two and a half years there and then was invited to go and start my own firm, which I did in March 1996.

I think if I had to go back and figure out a route to becoming an agent, I'd suggest a Business major with an English minor, because running an agency is more about business and negotiations than anything else.

William Morris and ICM both have "training programs" for agents. I suppose CAA does also, but they don't generally do books. If you are a college student looking to become an agent, I'd probably start with trying to get into one of those agencies as an assistant.

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Most agents started in editorial somehow. A few started in subsidiary rights. I was an English and Political Science major in college and was managing editor of the yearbook for two years. I attended the Radcliffe (now Columbia) Publishing Course the summer after graduation and started in subsidiary rights at S&S two weeks after that ended. I came to a parting of the ways with my bosses there after five or so months and went to Warner Books as an Editorial Assistant about a month later. Spent a little over a year there and started acquiring and editing titles while I was there. I left to go to Donald I. Fine, a small, hardcover house, where I started as an Assistant Editor/Rights Associate and was promoted after six months to Associate Editor/Rights Manager. I was there less than a year when I got offered a job as an Editor for The Berkley Publishing Group. I spent not quite a year-and-a-half there when my position was eliminated. I went freelance and read for BOMC and reviewed for KIRKUS. I also read for Jay Garon, who was John Grisham's agent at the time, and I became a Consulting Editor for the Forge Books imprint of Tom Doherty Associates. As a Consulting Editor, I acquired and edited titles for the house, just like being an editor in-house, but on a project basis. One author I was editing was a client of the Scott Meredith Literary Agency. When Scott died, three of the agents left to start a new firm, Scovil Chichak Galen Literary Agency. I approached Ted Chichak about coming on board as an agent, which I subsequently did. I spent two and a half years there and then was invited to go and start my own firm, which I did in March 1996.

I think if I had to go back and figure out a route to becoming an agent, I'd suggest a Business major with an English minor, because running an agency is more about business and negotiations than anything else.

William Morris and ICM both have "training programs" for agents. I suppose CAA does also, but they don't generally do books. If you are a college student looking to become an agent, I'd probably start with trying to get into one of those agencies as an assistant.

Z

Wow!

This may sound stupid, but with all the job-switching & moving, how on earth does an agent or editor handle things like insurance & retirement?
 

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Job-switching in publishing is more common than staying one place for years. Most offer health insurance that kicks in either immediately or within 30 days. And most offer 401(k) plans, but participation may not be immediate. I started investing in my own IRA as soon as I was making enough to afford the contribution. I can't speak for my peers, but I certainly hope they did and are doing the same.

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@Andrew Zack: Thanks for the info.

I just looked around on my college website and there are a few internships with publishers available.

My college doesn't offer a business or marketing major (yet), so I'm currently an econ major. I'm a bit worried about going up against the literature majors for this.

What would an agent be looking for in an intern? (I'm guessing waxing lyrical about the field probably wouldn't earn me any brownie points).
 
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Thanks for the info. Brain food!! And do you know if there are film agents that become literary agents or vice versa? That'd be interesting to know because AFAIK they hate each other don't they?
 

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Thanks for that link! =] I keep hoping that someone would do a step-by-step though. :tongue Or at least, how to make that jump from student to intern. (I hate that catch-22. You have to have experiences to be an intern...but you can't really get any experiences if you can't get an internship).

My internship was in zoo keeping, not literary agentizing, but I can tell you how to make the jump between student and intern. Apply for internships. Your school advisor can probably help you find them. You can also check "jobs" links on agencies' web sites. If they offer internships, they will be posted there. Then apply for the ones that interest you, and give a killer interview.

Internships are hard. They're often unpaid, so you'll need to plan for it by saving up enough money to get by for the length of the internship. It's a tough part of building a career, because you're in this weird limbo between learning and doing, but it's a great experience. I came out of my internship with real confidence in myself, and some excellent references to boot.

Good luck!
 

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Oh, by the way...I didn't really address your question of needing experience before you get an internship. A lot of internships are very competitive and they'll only take people in certain college programs/majors, recently graduated students, etc. Others are more relaxed and are really looking for the right fit and a person with a high degree of enthusiasm, who is genuinely interested in the field and isn't just taking any old internship just to get something to put on a resume.

I don't have a college degree, but here I am working in my dream job. I started with my internship. It took about two months of work to compile a list of internships that accepted people like me, with minimal experience and no degree, but I was able to find several. I really did my homework and put a lot of effort into finding intern openings where I knew I'd excel, and in the end I was offered internships at four different facilities for five very different internships; I had my pick of several great learning experiences. That was the hardest part: deciding which internship would benefit me the most, professionally speaking.

So if you're willing to do a lot of sleuthing you can find a fit. They're always in high demand, but showing a lot of real enthusiasm for the job and the profession (and some existing knowledge of each) will give you an edge over all the new graduates just looking for something to do to pad the resume.