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My 7 year old is reading hard and heavy, and I am running out of things to suggest for her. She can read a MG book in a day. I gave her Beverly Cleary, Judy Blume plus a few classics like Black Beauty. I've got Lemony Snicket set aside for her. There's a lot of stuff around like Goosebumps and Capt Underpants and Diary of a Wimpy Kid which are fun, but seem too fluffy. What can you recommend in the way of MG novels? Even classics would be great.

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I don't know if she's past them but my daughter's on The Fairy Realm series and The Encyclopedia Brown series.
 

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I loved the Nancy Drew series when I was growing up. Also, The Secret Garden, Little Women, and Eight Cousins
As for more current ones, I really enjoy Fablehaven...
 

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My 7 year old is reading hard and heavy, and I am running out of things to suggest for her. She can read a MG book in a day. I gave her Beverly Cleary, Judy Blume plus a few classics like Black Beauty. I've got Lemony Snicket set aside for her. There's a lot of stuff around like Goosebumps and Capt Underpants and Diary of a Wimpy Kid which are fun, but seem too fluffy. What can you recommend in the way of MG novels? Even classics would be great.

Thanks!

You might get more response to this in the Writing For Kids Forum - and there are several threads with "Recommend me some MG..." type subjects...

Here's some of the latest ones:

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140925
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118894
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118029


Tons of good suggestions in them.

Some of My faves (although some are likley geared for 9-10, but I'm going from your post she reads up)?

The Gregor the Overlander series by Suzanne Collins
Tale of Despereaux and Because of Winn-Dixie, both by Kate DiCamillo
From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, by E.L. Konigsburg (9-12)
The Wanderer and Walk Two Moons by Sharon Creech
The Lion, Witch and Wardrobe, by C. S. Lewis
Jacob I have Loved by Katherine Patterson
Sarah, Plain and Tall, by Patricia MacLachlan

And here's a link to the Newberry medal winners and honors. Not all will be appropriate, but it's not a bad list to hunt through:
http://www.ala.org/ala/mgrps/divs/a...a/newberymedal/newberyhonors/newberymedal.cfm

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The Finn Family Moomintroll series by Tove Jansson. They are so so so so good and really underappreciated in the US.

Pippi Longstocking books are like awesome to the power of awesome for little girls.

The Alice in Wonderland Books

The Wizard of Oz Books (there are like 40 of them or something crazy like that)

Harry Potter, at least the first 3 books. The later ones are more dark and adultish, but if she's seen the movies, i dunno.

Inkheart, by Cornelia Funke has a great little girl protagonist.

The Golden Compass series by Philip Pullman. (OK, the last three were all recently made into movies. But I loved them and recommended them before they were movies, so there.)

If you want to bump her up to some really easy and kid-appropriate adult books (which sounds like a possibility given how fast she reads), Piers Anthony's Xanth novels are perfect (but his other books are not for little kids). There are a lot of those too. Start with 'Dragon on a Pedestal' maybe, it's about little kids having magical adventures.
 

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Thanks Suki and Kitty!

These are great suggestions. I will check out these threads as well. My kid is pretty sheltered from adult themes and violence since we don't have a TV (we do watch movies, though). For example, we watched The Little Mermaid, and my child was troubled even by the opening scene where the shark chased and tried to eat the little mermaid. Or recently we watched a movie about Kermit the frog's early years (also G-rated) where a science teacher was going to disect Kermit for science class. I want to steer away from books with themes that are too unsettling.
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Thanks Suki and Kitty!

These are great suggestions. I will check out these threads as well. My kid is pretty sheltered from adult themes and violence since we don't have a TV (we do watch movies, though). For example, we watched The Little Mermaid, and my child was troubled even by the opening scene where the shark chased and tried to eat the little mermaid. Or recently we watched a movie about Kermit the frog's early years (also G-rated) where a science teacher was going to disect Kermit for science class. I want to steer away from books with themes that are too unsettling.
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Ok, knowing that, you are going to want to check out most of my suggestions to make sure they're appropriate content wise, for example, The Gregor the Overlander series by Suzanne Collins might be too dark - you should check it out first. It's a great series, but fairly gritty.

And, Tale of Despereaux by Kate DiCamillo could also be considered a bit dark by some, but I think it would be a great choice, given its themes.

But it's hard to know what might be appropriate given her reading temperment and what she's been exposed to.

So, you might want to lean toward classics, like Charlotte's Web, Stuart Little and The Trumpet of the Swan, by E.B. White. Those are generally thought of as 4-8 year old reading level, and while might have emotional moments should be age appropriate.

And the Little House on the Prairie series and the Anne of Green Gables series are both generally listed as appropriate for 9-12 year olds, but I would think they too would be content appropriate, if the reading levels worked. And, the benefit of those are the very many books if either is a hit.

Good luck. I am wistful for a summer of reading with oodles of books, like when I was a kid...

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Suki's right. So many MG books now have content that can be upsetting to younger readers. Most are written so the MC has to solve the problems that arise, so that means absent, captured or dead parents. I agree with her that the Little House on the Prairie series is a good bet. I'll try to think of some more.
 

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Anne of Green Gables is pretty safe, but I think the later ones, with Matthew dying and her losing a baby and everything might be a little sad if she's sensitive to loss - but there's not really peril if peril is the problem.

My daughter's fine with peril and killing bad guys etc...(she has a comic book fan for a daddy) but she's very sensitive to emotional things. If someone is really sad in a book or on TV, she gets very sad. Our dog died over a year ago and she still talks about missing the dog almost daily. Lesson learned.
 

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When I was 7 I read the 1001 Nights. Penguin classics do a nice selection of the different stories, but they changed the ending (mine had a really weird one that turned the whole narrative into an infinite loop that totally messed me up and turned me into the individual you see today, wish I still had that copy, it was in 6 volumes and came from Egypt). Reading them again they are pretty oversexed though there's also a fair bit of violence, at least in the version I had. You can probably get a good childrens version though, they're pretty much the ultimate in childrens stories.

Actually, reading about how sheltered your daughter is I would steer clear of Northern Lights/The Golden Compass. Consistent peril and some pretty brutal pieces of violence. Man on man, man on giant armoured bear, a fantastically violent and beautifully written scene of bear on bear violence.
 

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I just sent you a link to a looooooong summer reading list, so let me know if you can't read it.

All of the Avi animal-themed books are good for that age: Poppy, Ragweed, The Good Dog.
 

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Does everyone consider Pullman's books (HDM series) to be middle grade? The themes and plot are very much adultish. For that matter, the original Harry Potter (book 1) had very violent content. Murdered parents in chapter 1 - the very beginning of the series. Forget about it becoming more dark, it started out that way. So, what is MG and what qualifies as some hybrid work that adults would read. For me, I loved the HP (Rowland) and HDM (Pullman) books, but for preteens & tweens they are pretty dark and scary.

Just what is middle grade these days? I know there is a very wide birth of what fits in that particular genre.
 

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Does everyone consider Pullman's books (HDM series) to be middle grade? The themes and plot are very much adultish. For that matter, the original Harry Potter (book 1) had very violent content. Murdered parents in chapter 1 - the very beginning of the series. Forget about it becoming more dark, it started out that way. So, what is MG and what qualifies as some hybrid work that adults would read. For me, I loved the HP (Rowland) and HDM (Pullman) books, but for preteens & tweens they are pretty dark and scary.

Just what is middle grade these days? I know there is a very wide birth of what fits in that particular genre.

I personally loved dark and scary even at that age. In fact when I started my first novel at the age of 12 it was about a young girl, age 12, seeing ghosts in the reflection of windows, messages written to her in the dust, portraits reaching and calling out to her, bodies frozen in the basement, and a soul sucking, essence eating house. It was fun to write. :D

However, I do realize not everyone is like me and there is a lot of variety out there. You'll find plenty of softer books and lighter themes for all age groups.

Try the Pern series, though I realize it's not all happy go lucky, it's not nearly as dark. And other Anne McCaffery's works.
 

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Don't forget non-fiction.

I chewed my way through the Golden Book Encyclopedia at her age.

Some of the articles imprinted on my imagination, and I'd go back to read them again and again, like the one on ghosts, deep sea marine life, volcanoes, butterflies, and even opera.

I was also addicted to The Happy Hollisters. There's 33 books where the kids are the heroes and solve mysteries. They're likely hard to get, but reprints might be out there.

Just keep her away from Disney films. I'm still traumatized from when the poacher--not hunter, he was a poacher, dammit!--killed Bambi's mother.

Disney is just too scary. When Snow White was first released in the 30's, Radio City Music Hall had to replace ALL their theater seats. When the wicked witch appeared, she was so horrific the kids screamed in terror and wet their pants. I'll put that moment right up there with the shower scene in Psycho or our first look at Frankenstein's monster.

At least Karloff kept still and didn't do that insane laugh. :eek:
 

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Does everyone consider Pullman's books (HDM series) to be middle grade? The themes and plot are very much adultish. For that matter, the original Harry Potter (book 1) had very violent content. Murdered parents in chapter 1 - the very beginning of the series. Forget about it becoming more dark, it started out that way. So, what is MG and what qualifies as some hybrid work that adults would read. For me, I loved the HP (Rowland) and HDM (Pullman) books, but for preteens & tweens they are pretty dark and scary.

Just what is middle grade these days? I know there is a very wide birth of what fits in that particular genre.

There is a lot of debate about what is middle grade and what is not, and the line between YA and MG is fuzzy and sort of a moving target.

But generally, in my experience, His Dark Materials and Harry Potter are both more often classified as MG. That doesn't mean some don't classify them as YA and put them in YA, but if going by majority, usually they are considered MG.

As for what is MG? IMO:
- protag/main character 14 or younger (kids generally read 1-2 years up, so main characters of 12/13 will often fall in MG, whereas main character of 14 can go either way, but some will be MG).
- immediate voice/narrative perspective of someone the age of the main character (so not an oldr voice/perspective looking back on an experience the person had when younger).
- concerning themes and problems someone 12 or younger would be concerned with from the perspective of someone that age - ie, in MG more often adventure, friendship, families, growing responsibility, starting to see the world outside of her family/school, etc.
- content appropriate to the age of the character and reader (touchy subject, since one person's acceptable content is not another's, but that is still an issue IMO - for example, a YA book and an MG book may both deal with loss, but the perspectives will be different. But it's far less likely that an MG will deal with sexual experimentation, for example, whereas that is clear ground for YA.)
- langauge, story complexity and structure appropriate to a reader 12 and under, varying depending on age of intended audience - with a book geared toward 9-10 year olds less complex in general than one geared toward 12 year olds, again, in general.

But remember that MG includes, arguably, readers up to 12, so what a 12 year old can handle is different than what a 10 or 8 year old can handle. And it's why parents of 7-12 year olds need to know that just because it is "MG" doesn't make it appropriate for all kids under 12, or their kid in particular. By 11 I could handle pretty much anything, but if your 11 year old is fairly sheltered, maybe not all upper MG books would be appropriate.

As for what separates MG from YA?
Other than age of characters, language and complexity of the story (YA stories do tend to be more complex, with more threads and subplots than MG, but that's an in general), the subject matter and themes are key.

MG tends to be more concerned with friends and family, adventure, where as YA tends to be more concerned with coming of age, emerging sexuality and oncoming maturity.

Editors and agents tend to say it's voice and subject, with a default on the fuzzy line to wether the book deals with topics that would push it into YA (sex, drugs, suicide, etc...). But last year I was at a conference and some of the writers newer to MG/YA were shocked at what is considered MG. One of the first pages that was read the editors, agents and more experienced writers all said was clearly MG because the main character was worried about getting in trouble with his mom for something tame. The author was shocked that we thought that made it MG, rather than YA.

There's a great description of MG versus YA here (But I've had some trouble with it failing to load...):
http://www.write4kids.com/feature6.html

Here's some other AW threads that discuss the differences between MG and YA:
http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138559

http://www.absolutewrite.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3614558#post3614558


Also, remember that cross-over potential or whether adults or teens will enjoy the book is not determinative of the genre. The question isn't whether it would have broad appeal or whether adults or teens would enjoy it, but whether if it is a book with an immediate MG perspective/voice/content.

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For lighter reading, Hank the Cowdog is a good series with a lot of books. If she's a strong reader she'll power through them easily, but they are nice stories.

I remember reading loads of Boxcar children books. I think there are over 100.

The Great Brain by John D. Fitzgerald is another great series.

The Invention of Hugo Cabret, by Brian Selznik

Misty of Chincoteague by Margeurite Henry. Steer clear of Brighty of the Grand Canyon though, a very awesome character in that book is murdered, I remember being traumatized by it as a first grader. If she's sensitive it might be a bit intense at her age. As an adult, it has become my favorite of Henrys books though.

Winnie the Pooh, by Milne

Most of James Thurbers books, even though they are adult books are great. They are very funny and PG. I remember reading them very young and enjoying them very much. The Thurber Carnival would be a good choice.

Owls in the Family. Farley Mowat.

Dealing With Dragons, by Patricia C. Wrede. I can't remember if there are intense moments that might upset her, but it's a neat series that is worth reading, maybe when she's a little older depending on content.
 

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Nancy Drew and the Harding Boys; great classics with countless novels. Maybe a smidge too old, but if your child is reading that fast already clearly she needs something maybe a touch above what most people consider 'the usual.'
 

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If she can read one a day she's probably a lot more advanced than the rest of her age group and so you may have to look at some YA titles that aren't too adult in content...
 

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If she can read one a day she's probably a lot more advanced than the rest of her age group and so you may have to look at some YA titles that aren't too adult in content...

I totally disagree.

There are mountains of good, meaty MG novels out there that are age and reading level appropriate to her. A lot of adults read MG books regularly, so it's not like they will be beneath her reading level or interest or cognitive abilities.

In fact, from what you've said, many if not most YA novels would be too mature in subject matter for her. Stick with MG, but vet them carefully.

If you have a decent library branch in your area with an actual children's librarian, you might want to go meet with her or him and then you can maybe tell the children's librarian what she likes, and your concerns, and then the librarian can help you select some more MG books - ideally, with your daughter, so that when you go to the library your daughter can begin selecting her own books (with your supervision).

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