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Dichroic
05-18-2009, 06:08 PM
A while back we batted around the idea of doing workshops on different types of poetry, but only the minimalist one really ever got very far (Norman made some very interesting posts on the importance of lines in poetry, but the discussion was fairly short-lived.)

Would anyone be interested in doing some formalist workshops? I was thinking that we could pick a different form each week, and then write and crit stuff in that form that week. At the beginning of each week someone (me, if no one else wants to) could pick a form and post a brief explanation to get us running. We could pick a range of short to long, familiar to unfamiliar stuff: anything from senryu to sonnet, villanelle to venpa. (OK, maybe not venpa. I'm far too lazy to learn Tamil just to write a new form of poetry. :sleepy: )

Anyne interested ?

AnonymousWriter
05-18-2009, 09:31 PM
I'd definitely be interested in this. I'm always up for learning different forms of poetry...

Zai
05-18-2009, 09:52 PM
I love this idea!

Norman D Gutter
05-19-2009, 01:41 AM
Di:

I wonder at the value of a workshop as you described it. How would it be different from a game thread, as we currently have for haiku and cinquains? My impression of those threads is that they are more for blowing off steam than for learning.

My intention with the Lines thread was to address both free verse as well as formal verse. Life got in the way of doing too much with that, as it still is. Also, no one else came forward with examples of line to analyze.

I might comment in the type of threads you mention. I sure couldn't take the lead on any.

NDG

Dichroic
05-19-2009, 05:15 AM
Norman, my idea was that we'd spend a week posting and critting examples of a form. The games let people play with posting, but there's rarely feedback. Also, they generally stick to shorter forms; you mention haiku (more often those are really senryu) and cinquain, and I can easily imagine a game for clerihews, but they very rarely delve into something more complex like a terza rima.

P.H.Delarran
05-19-2009, 10:21 AM
however it is formatted, I would follow and attempt to participate.

kdnxdr
05-19-2009, 04:49 PM
I would do my best to participate but I have a week to pack my house and get ready for my move from Mississippi to Missouri.

I really do like the idea and was enjoying the thread that Norman had started.

kid

ddgryphon
05-20-2009, 06:03 PM
however it is formatted, I would follow and attempt to participate.


Ditto.

Priene
05-20-2009, 07:52 PM
Not a formalist myself, but I'd like to participate.

Billytwice
05-20-2009, 08:36 PM
Just had to look up the term formalist with regard to poetry and it does sound interesting.
Some of the terms and definations would seem to be quite a challenge.

Some reading material:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Formalism

http://www.uen.org/utahlink/tours/tourViewCategory.cgi?category_id=30555&tour_id=18706

Of course, I maybe barking up the entirely wrong tree...

In fact I think I am, do you mean concentrating on a single poetic form such as a sonnet or a haiku for a week?
Or going down the road I've just travelled?

Dichroic
05-21-2009, 04:07 AM
In fact I think I am, do you mean concentrating on a single poetic form such as a sonnet or a haiku for a week?
Or going down the road I've just travelled?

Billy: Yes, I mean concentrating on single traditional forms, rather than 'New Formalism'. Though as the article states that New Formalism is a return to those forms, it may come to much the same thing.

skelly
05-21-2009, 04:08 AM
I would avoid it like the plague and make fun of it.

:D

Dichroic
05-21-2009, 04:18 AM
Quick note: I'm going to get it started now, but since I expect (hope!) we will be posting and working on poems there, I'll put it in the crit forum so it's password protected.

Lady Cat
05-21-2009, 06:28 AM
I have to confess, I like form and structure to my poems. This sounds like a fun workshop. :D

Priene
05-21-2009, 12:42 PM
I would avoid it like the plague and make fun of it.

If you don't mock in trochees we'll ignore you.