Example of a hot guy: Edward Cullen [SPOILERS]

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A lot of girls love edward cullen, you know, the world famous Vampire. It's time to figure out what makes young girls love Edward. I'm writing a story where I have the ultimate school heartthrob. But then when my sister bought twilight.(snuck it out of her room.;)) She never shuts up about Edward at dinner. She said even her boyfriend can't live up to this guy.

I read twilight and I can't figure oout what fangirls see in edward.(I'm a guy.)

I want to make Arden into the pretty boy. Something young girls will go gaga over. My sister is not easy to please. i asked her, but she doesn't know what she likes about edward, except sparkles(Vampires sparkle?)

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Everyone please help me. what makes edward a hot guy? I need a pretty boy in my book.
 

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A lot of girls love edward cullen, you know, the world famous Vampire. It's time to figure out what makes young girls love Edward. I'm writing a story where I have the ultimate school heartthrob. But then when my sister bought twilight.(snuck it out of her room.;)) She never shuts up about Edward at dinner. She said even her boyfriend can't live up to this guy.

I read twilight and I can't figure oout what fangirls see in edward.(I'm a guy.)

I want to make Arden into the pretty boy. Something young girls will go gaga over. My sister is not easy to please. i asked her, but she doesn't know what she likes about edward, except sparkles(Vampires sparkle?)

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Everyone please help me. what makes edward a hot guy? I need a pretty boy in my book.
There was a thread already made, but it's not exactly helpful.

You might want to be careful. Let's hope this doesn't turn into a bashing thread.
 

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Hm... well, I think that if you really look into Twilight, Edward is kind of controlling. Like, scary controlling. In real life, it would be creepy. In the book, it's romantic. I don't even know how that works out.

Otherwise, besides physical attributes, the way Edward wants to do nothing but take care of Bella is what does it for a lot of girls. Again, creepy in practice (watching her while she sleeps? Not letting her do things she wants to do because it's "not safe"?), but a lot of fangirls go gaga over that.
 

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I think setting up the situation of wanting to protect his love interest at any cost even if other [sexual] desires are present. Having the guy say "no" I think seems more gentlemanly and mature (maybe hot?) to a lot of teen girls.

I'm just making suppositions here. I only read the first book. I thought Edward was a very moody character myself and not one I was attracted to.

From my observations in real life (I teach high school), students seem to go gaga over guys who wear the nicest/coolest clothes, have the coolest phone, have the coolest car, and love to tease and flirt. Usually very outgoing guys. Edward in this case was different since he was viewed as an outsider by the community.
 

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Look up "Byronic hero."

*nods head*

He was kind of the "bad guy" who wasn't really bad. Also, he was forbidden, in a sense.
I found this on Wikipedia.

The Byronic hero typically exhibits the following characteristics:[2][3]
  • high level of intelligence and perception
  • cunning and able to adapt
  • sophisticated and educated
  • self-critical and introspective
  • mysterious, magnetic and charismatic
  • struggling with integrity
  • power of seduction and sexual attraction
  • social and sexual dominance
  • emotional conflicts, bipolar tendencies, or moodiness
  • a distaste for social institutions and norms
  • being an exile, an outcast, or an outlaw
  • "dark" attributes not normally associated with a hero
  • disrespect of rank and privilege
  • a troubled past
  • cynicism
  • arrogance
  • self-destructive behavior
 

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You have to decide if you want a physically attractive character or someone who's more than a pretty face. For the 1st one, you just describe the attributes that make him look good. For the 2nd it's about attitude and the way he carries himself. How does he react toward others and how does he move in his environment?

And no, vampires shouldn't sparkle in the sun. (Unless said sparkles are the 1st indications of spontaneous combustion) :D
 

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See also Edward Rochester, hero of Jane Eyre, who was an inspiration for Edward Cullen, as I read Meyer's website. However, Mr. Rochester is no pretty boy, and Jane is no pushover, so I imagine it was Mr. Rochester's masterful personality that chiefly impressed Meyer.

In addition to Byronic hero, think bad boy. Some modern characters similar to Edward Cullen are Sirius Black, in the Harry Potter series, and both Angel and Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Though I'm not a manga or anime afficianado, I understand that these fangirl-beloved forms are also rife with Cullenesque pretty/dangerous boys.

Stephen King wrote an interesting article explaining the appeal of the Twilight series. Independently I had come to the same conclusion that it plays on the complex intertwining of sexual desires and sexual apprehensions to which adolescent girls are prey.

I wonder if a young male writer would be able to reproduce this effect. ;)

And yes, Meyer's vampires sparkle. I call it the My Little Pony Effect, or MLPE for short. My Little Ponies were also a commercial success. Maybe we should all consider breaking out the glitter. Why not sparkly werewolves and zombies? How about sparkly detectives? Sparkly CIA/FBI agents? Sparkly cowboys? And hey, you literary writers! Your characters don't have to be dull and drab -- you can let them sparkle and call it magical realism.

I'm off to the craft store now, cyas.

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I do think one of the things that makes Edward so attractive is that he is literally described as attractive. From the outset we know he is the most handsome boy at school, we are told he's got rock hard abs, and looks like he's carved out of marble. He's got eyes that change colour according to his mood. There is an awful lot of telling going on. I do believe all of these attributes could have been established by showing. Nonetheless, he is actually a perfect man aesthetically (which makes him far from the perfect man for Toothpaste).

And okay, you know how much I love AW? I learn new things every day. I'd heard referenced the Byronic hero many times, but never actually looked it up. Thanks to Blue I now know what he is. I have also learned that it looks like my protagonist of my YA is basically a Byronic hero. He isn't that moody though, but man is he arrogant. So yeah, good to know!
 

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*Disclaimer: have not read Twilight*

A lot of what you want to do can be done by showing other characters' reactions to your character rather than telling. Readers will accept the reactions and behaviors of the characters around him as reality. My beta readers described my MC as "scary but charming." Why? Because that's how the other characters in the book react. People who know him well are scared when they encounter him and people who are just meeting him are charmed.
 

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I found this on Wikipedia.

I do think one of the things that makes Edward so attractive is that he is literally described as attractive. From the outset we know he is the most handsome boy at school, we are told he's got rock hard abs, and looks like he's carved out of marble. He's got eyes that change colour according to his mood. There is an awful lot of telling going on. I do believe all of these attributes could have been established by showing. Nonetheless, he is actually a perfect man aesthetically (which makes him far from the perfect man for Toothpaste).

And okay, you know how much I love AW? I learn new things every day. I'd heard referenced the Byronic hero many times, but never actually looked it up. Thanks to Blue I now know what he is. I have also learned that it looks like my protagonist of my YA is basically a Byronic hero. He isn't that moody though, but man is he arrogant. So yeah, good to know!

When I read that list, I saw not a character in a book, but it was like someone took my sister's husband, and made a list based on him. :::shudder::: I guess I never went for that type of guy, and considering how controlling my sister's dh is, I pray that my daughter never does either. I will discourage her from reading Twilight. She's only 8, but she just asked the other day if she could see the movie. I don't want her idealizing a guy like that. Maybe I'll make her watch some first season episodes of Friday Night Lights which shows a realistic and sweet romance between the teens Julie and Matt. That is how it should be. When there was a fight between Matt's football team and the opposing team, Julie told him that she was worried about him during that. He just kind of stuttered and said, "When there's a fight, I just kind of stand in the back and yell stuff."

But, to get this back on topic, for the original poster, have you considered other types of teen heartthrobs? Like what about Troy from Highschool Musical? Girls love him, and I have to say as a parent, I'd much rather have my daughter drooling over him than a scary Edward Cullen.

There's also the 'bad' boy with the good heart, ala Tim Riggins of Friday Night Lights. He drinks too much, he's lazy in school and has girls falling all over him. He's one of those guys who wants to do better, but is afraid of rejection, so he screws things up before people can screw him over. He has this vulnerability that just makes girls go crazy for him. They all think that he just needs the love of a good girl/woman. :) They want to save him, basically. (his parents both abandon him and his older brother does his best to raise him, but he's not the most stable guy in the world either.)

He's played by Taylor Kitsch, who will soon be the next big thing. He has some high profile movie roles coming out and females of all ages seem to find him attractive. Personally, he's not my type, but he does have rock hard abs, and he's very pretty, but in a guy way. http://www.iballer.com/malecelebs/kitsch_taylor/images/kitsch_taylor2_jpg.jpg
 
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I agree with toothpaste. Edward is almost like a blank slate, so I think readers don't even realize they're putting their own interpretation of him into the story. "Rock hard abs" is a cliche, meaningless, really, other than to say he's toned in that area. Different bodies have different shapes and curves, which it certainly doesn't get into. Carved out of marble, well, that's practically the same cliche. Just an overall view of "really in shape" and I suppose it also implies a shade of color, whether or not that was on purpose.

But beyond that this guy is just a walking, sparkling moodring. So what makes him "hot" is whatever the reader does to make sure he's hot within their imagination.

I'm writing a story where I have the ultimate school heartthrob.

Let's talk about this statement.

As for this one...

but she doesn't know what she likes about edward

A woman not knowing what they want in a man? How unusual! (yes, yes, send hate mail to...)

But seriously, let's go back to the first one. 'Teen heartthrob.' I know this is just a summary statement for the thread. But I think it's important not to think of characters in these oversimplifications, and get in the habit of thinking of them like dynamic human beings. Even the most minor character has fears for the writer to manipulate and yearnings for the writer to dangle before him.

So be sure you have your writer's toolbox full of all the right wrenches and ratchets, with the right attachments and bring a flashlight so you can work into the night. The more you know about your world and characters, the more possibilities present themselves.
 

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i've always used dialogue to pass along types, like if someone is a pretty boy or certain characteristics that i've envisioned. I don't like giving too much because I want readers to use their imaginations.

You don't have to describe how good looking someone is like Edward Cullen, but if you have a couple of characters talk about it then the reader's imagination will do the rest for you.
 

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There are ways to make a guy protective without making him a control freak stalker-type. For example, in Twilight when Edward is literally dragging Bella to his car because he's 'concerned' (quotes because I wasn't buying his concern) it probably would have been more appealing if he wasn't so 'you're coming home with me and that's the end of it'. More gentle, more along the lines of 'look, I'm just concerned and I want to make sure for myself you get home safely'. Really illustrate some sort of affection or compassion towards this girl he supposedly likes. Take away the feelings/emotions and it's just plain out controlling behaviour. A reader should be able to see he actually gives a damn about her as a person, and not as an object.
 

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There are ways to make a guy protective without making him a control freak stalker-type. For example, in Twilight when Edward is literally dragging Bella to his car because he's 'concerned' (quotes because I wasn't buying his concern) it probably would have been more appealing if he wasn't so 'you're coming home with me and that's the end of it'. More gentle, more along the lines of 'look, I'm just concerned and I want to make sure for myself you get home safely'. Really illustrate some sort of affection or compassion towards this girl he supposedly likes. Take away the feelings/emotions and it's just plain out controlling behaviour. A reader should be able to see he actually gives a damn about her as a person, and not as an object.

I agree, to a certain degree. I'm not a fan of the debut novel, but I will say it's kind of hard to picture Edward not being controlling, overprotective of his mate (potential food) and being violent at times. He's essentially an animal, not a knight in shining armor. And dare I say that's one thing Meyer did recognize when writing him, I think. He's so much on the 'good' side, however, that it's hard to tell he's not just a boy being abusive.

I think once you remove the "he's a good boy" concept and political correctness, his actions become not morally right but right for the character.
 

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A lot of writers might benefit from coming up with their own characters and finding out what makes them interesting and attractive (to the reader and the other characters) rather than focusing on oh so dreamy vampires.
 

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A lot of writers might benefit from coming up with their own characters and finding out what makes them interesting and attractive (to the reader and the other characters) rather than focusing on oh so dreamy vampires.

Here here.
 

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It was really interesting to read the character traits of the Byronic hero. As I was going down the list I kept thinking that it sounded exactly like one of my characters, which might explain why I sometimes have the strange desire to punch him in the face. He does make an excellent politictian, though.

As far as what makes characters like Edward so fangirlworthy, I think LAWolf got it right. Many young girls fantasize about a man who will protect them, love them unconditionally, and see them as the very reason for their existence.
 

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Independently I had come to the same conclusion that it plays on the complex intertwining of sexual desires and sexual apprehensions to which adolescent girls are prey.

I wonder if a young male writer would be able to reproduce this effect. ;)

This is the exact same conclusion I've come to. I haven't read Twilight but as someone who liked vampires myself as a girl I can confirm that the attraction has everything to do with romantic/sexual awakenings. But your sister was probably telling the truth when she said she doesn't know what she likes about him. For young men, I imagine sexual awakening is obvious to them (look up porn on the internet??) but for girls it is more indirect and subconscious, and much more tied up with romance and behavior than with physical attributes. Yeah the guy has to be good looking, but that alone isn't enough.

Girls love guys who are powerful, mentally and physically capable of even killing someone. BUT they are repelled by men who kill for no reason or for bad reasons. The vampire kills because he needs blood to survive. That's a good reason. Or if it's the type who lives off of rats and bagged blood from the blood bank, then he always is using self control, because drinking directly from a human is preferable. Or if he drinks but pulls away before the human dies, he always must make himself do it, it's difficult. This is self control, another kind of power that girls adore. The vampire can't lose.

And the vampire is damaged. Girls love men who are damaged (but not TOO damaged). There was a study I read about - can't remember the details - but it was about some bird, maybe the peacock. Let's say it was the peacock. Everyone knows the bigger and better the male peacock feathers the more the female likes him. This study discovered that if given the choice between a male with perfect feathers and a male with slightly damaged feathers, the female will choose the damaged one. Why? Because it is proof that the male was able to survive a fight. Females are not attracted to men who have not been tested. This also explains why so many cultures have a painful or challenging male coming of age ritual. The vampire has been tested to the max... he has had to die!

And all of this is safely secured in the world of fantasy. The girl can obsess all she wants with no fear that a real vampire will actually come bite her neck no matter how much she thinks she wants it because she doesn't really want it. Just as you say, young girls are apprehensive; unlike males, they do not have an instinct to copulate in the same way a male does. Testosterone is the "I want it, I need it" hormone, not estrogen, and girls have minuscule amounts of testosterone compared to boys. For girls, sex is all tied up with romance and emotion. The vampire fictions provide buckets of drama, conflict and emotion, giving a girl a kind of caricature way of processing the need for emotional connection before giving herself physically to a man.

Can a guy write this? I'm sure he can if he has enough insight. I think it's rare for young people to fully understand the minds of the opposite gender, but not impossible. More often it probably takes a few years of human observation and experience to gain you the perspective. The problem with young men is that they're in the middle of dealing with young girls right now - their take on it is colored by their own tensions. For example, a young guy might misinterpret a smile from a girl as a sexual come-on, when in reality a girl smiles at a guy for other reasons. Maybe she is just being polite. If it is a flirtatious, interested smile, it might mean she wants to get to know you, just go on a date. So if a guy writes vampire fiction, he can't just have his female MC smile at a vampire, then the vamp grabs her and drains her blood. That won't thrill a girl. He needs to give the MC that emotional connection first. And pulling off a good fictive emotional connection that isn't just melodramatic is a whole nother subject.......
 

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What makes Edward Cullen hot is that he represents the brooding untouchable hunk a lot of girls fantasize about. He literally sweeps Bella off of her feet, from his paralyzing beauty to his inhumane strength. Like it or not, a lot of girls love the masculine and dominant role that Edward plays in the relationship.

I don't see the "abuse" people are saying is in the relationship after reading the series either. Edward has never hit Bella (though she inadvertently fractured her hand after hitting him), and when they did consummate he didn't flatten her like a pancake, a fear he had expressed in the beginning. He actually shows remarkable gentlemanly restraint with her. He obviously wants to ravish her, but that's what makes the series so delicious. The sexual tension between them can be cut by a knife. Meyer teases the reader and amplifies the relationship by denying the characters any more than cuddling and kisses, even though they obviously want to take it further.

Edward is the ideal Byronic Hero, so I would create a character in that mold if you want to try and mimic the Edward effect.
 
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