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I'm writing a sort of sci-fi/fantasy/drama/adventure series. It takes place on another world. There are 4 POV characters in the series. The first 3 are introduced at the very beginning and the fourth one, who is actually the primary main character in the series, is introduced in the middle of the first book. There are probably going to be 3 books.

I don't want to give the actual names, so we'll just use the names Alex, Bree, and Connor for this thread. None of them know each other before the beginning. They all meet in the story.

I should explain that none of the main characters are quite human. They are a different race that we will call 'Race X' for now. They don't look different than humans. The only difference is that Race X is more like a race of superhumans who are stronger, tougher, and faster. They also have senses that we do not have. For example, they can sense when another of their race is near. They can also distinguish individuals if they know them (it has nothing to do with the individual's smell). In the story, one of the main characters is trying to find his friend, who is being held captive about 100 miles away, but he can still sense where he might be (the general direction). It's a bit like how the Jedi from Star Wars can sense where other Jedi might be.

Moving on...

I'm having trouble because it seems like if I want things to connect...it requires coincidences that might be a bit far fetched.

As an example, we'll take the beginning of the book.

First we introduce Alex. He finds out that his uncle has died and had mentioned him in his will. He inherits money and a book. He meets his uncle's mysterious friend who thinks his uncle may have been murdered by someone looking for that book.

Meanwhile, Bree is working late at a museum when she meets Connor. They talk about some of the artifacts in the museum, and then Connor points out that the glass is broken and she realizes that a painting was stolen.

Connor ends up catching the culprit later in the book. It turns out that he was also the one who had killed Alex's uncle.

So, the events are connected because the culprit wanted the painting and the book.

Now I still need to figure out a way that they all meet. I think it would be too much of a coincidence if they all happened to meet seperately. Connor and Bree have met, so one of them has to meet Alex and introduce him to the other.

I don't think it'd be realistic if they all met seperatey. I know that if you live in the same general area (same large town in this case) mutual friends are bound to come up. It might not be too far fetched for Connor and Bree to both meet Alex seperately and then find out later that they both know him, but since Bree and Alex have already been "connected" by the robber/murder...I think it would be too much of a coincidence. You know what I mean?

They are also all connected because they are all the same race (Race X). The fact that they can sense when another of their kind is near could actually help me here...but I think it should have something to do with the events. The museum has many artifacts related to the ancient Race X culture...which is why Bree works there, and the book involves Race X mythology, which is why Alex's uncle had it (since he was also Race X). So, the robber/murdered was after these things because they were connected.

So I guess my question is how can I avoid coincidences. How much of a coincidence is too much of a coincidence? I know it's different for everyone...but for me there were too many coincidences in the first season of Heroes. All these people who happen to be supers just happen to all meet up in the last episode. What are the odds?

And that's really the same problem I have here. How do all 4 of these people meet up without it being a coincidence?
 

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My head hurts.

Four people walk into a bar...No, wait, four people with superpowers walk into a bar...no, wait, they fly into a bar, no, wait...my head hurts.

Okay - they need to meet without coincidence all over the place - an unbelievable ending will irritate & anger readers and guarantee to annoy potential agents.

And they need to meet each other *before* too much action takes place. Otherwise it's the cop-out "and then they all got hit by a bus" that is the hallmark of flabby writing. Work out this major kink in the story early, not late.

You can have connections that don't double back on each other - museum meeting - fine. Museum meeting and the guy turns out to have killed the uncle too - not fine.
 
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IMO, you're over-thinking this. I recommend you start writing and see where that takes you. I wouldn't worry over-much about coincidences. I've read plenty of books where I've thought to myself, "Well isn't that convenient," but they were so good in every other aspect (characters, story, etc) that it was very easy to overlook (Heroes, while not a book, is another example.) JMO.
 

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They meet at a RaceX speed dating get-together.

Seriously, inventing a new "sense" like the one described is what gives me a problem. Presumably, in their own world, these superhumans live in cities. In that instance, that special sense that can detect their own kind from miles away must be totally swamping their other senses with the closeness of so many of their own kind. This is a problem with inventing special senses that are of central importance to the story. In the Jedi situation, the special sense was tapped through training (right?) and the Jedi were few and far between (not in high density). Making a new world seem believable is really tough, and you may have this all figured out, but with such a short snapshot, things like that jump out at me. But they also may jump out at agents and editors as well.
 

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If you explain it correctly, the extra sense could make perfect sense without raising too many questions like "how does it not overpower their other sense when on their home planet?" I know this is going to be a horrible example, but if any of you ever saw Dragonball Z, the main characters were able to sense when beings of a high energy level were around. Yet, they were constantly around a few of their friends who had high energy levels, and it didn't bother or hinder them. It's like when you get the feeling someone is in your house, but once you see that they're there, the feeling no longer bothers you.
 

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As far as the coincidences go, if Alex is trying to find his uncle's killer, wouldn't it be naturally that at some point, he and Bree would stumble upon each other while tracking the killer/thief? As long as it isn't something ridiculous, I'd say that the only coincidence is that they're the same person. That isn't too far fetched I think, and gives you an in for their meeting.
 

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My head hurts.

Four people walk into a bar...No, wait, four people with superpowers walk into a bar...no, wait, they fly into a bar, no, wait...my head hurts.

Okay - they need to meet without coincidence all over the place - an unbelievable ending will irritate & anger readers and guarantee to annoy potential agents.

And they need to meet each other *before* too much action takes place. Otherwise it's the cop-out "and then they all got hit by a bus" that its the hallmark of flabby writing. Work out this major kink in the story early, not late.

You can have connections that don't double back on each other - museum meeting - fine. Museum meeting and the guy turns out to have killed the uncle too - not fine.

.............................ok

Yeah it looks like you might understand my problem here. Now the culprit did kill the guy but it's because he wanted that book which is already connected to the painting that he got from the museum. So far there's no big coincidences right?

It's just the characters meeting that might be too much of a coincidence. The only way I know of...to avoid the coincidence is to have them meet because of something that is already connected. That way it wouldn't be a convenient coincidence. Right?

But one thing to remember is that they are all in the same large town and they belong to the same race, and they can sense when someone of their own race is near.

And since the museum has artifacts involving this race's culture, it makes sense that they'd go there. Bree already works there because she is a Race X. Connor visited there because he is race X. Alex could visit there because his uncle's mysterious friend told him about the painting because it is connected with the book. So Alex goes to the museum to see the painting and Bree explains that it was stolen. Later they find out that it was the guy. Is that a coincidence? My head hurts....
 

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The kind of coincidences you absolutely want to avoid at all costs are those that help the protagonists.

Coincidences that make things worse for the protagonists and coincidences in the very beginning that set up the situation aren't quite so bad, as long as there aren't too many.

But one thing to remember is that they are all in the same large town and they belong to the same race, and they can sense when someone of their own race is near.

Do you mean there are only a few people of this race in a town that is mostly people of a different race? If that's the case, then the bit about them being able to sense one another does take some of the coincidence out of them meeting. Even so, it would still be better if there were some specific connection to bring them together.
 

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They meet at a RaceX speed dating get-together.

Seriously, inventing a new "sense" like the one described is what gives me a problem. Presumably, in their own world, these superhumans live in cities. In that instance, that special sense that can detect their own kind from miles away must be totally swamping their other senses with the closeness of so many of their own kind. This is a problem with inventing special senses that are of central importance to the story. In the Jedi situation, the special sense was tapped through training (right?) and the Jedi were few and far between (not in high density). Making a new world seem believable is really tough, and you may have this all figured out, but with such a short snapshot, things like that jump out at me. But they also may jump out at agents and editors as well.


There are about 30 Race X people in this city. Not a ton at all. The city where this takes place is not high density at all.
 

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The kind of coincidences you absolutely want to avoid at all costs are those that help the protagonists.

Coincidences that make things worse for the protagonists and coincidences in the very beginning that set up the situation aren't quite so bad, as long as there aren't too many.



Do you mean there are only a few people of this race in a town that is mostly people of a different race? If that's the case, then the bit about them being able to sense one another does take some of the coincidence out of them meeting. Even so, it would still be better if there were some specific connection to bring them together.

You got it. That's why I was thinking the specific connection could be something that could logically arise from the murder and robbery (both essentially attempted theft). Then it wouldn't be a coincidence.
 

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.............................ok

And since the museum has artifacts involving this race's culture, it makes sense that they'd go there. Bree already works there because she is a Race X. Connor visited there because he is race X. Alex could visit there because his uncle's mysterious friend told him about the painting because it is connected with the book. So Alex goes to the museum to see the painting and Bree explains that it was stolen. Later they find out that it was the guy. Is that a coincidence? My head hurts....

Maybe these connected occurences are not coincidences, but merely the logical thread of the story. If you present this part of the story in this linear fashion, it may seem to unfold logically and instead of coincidences, there are logical plot progressions.

Maybe you are worrying over nothing! (headache gone!)
 

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why couldnt they know each other before this happened? what prevents them from being friends already?

I agree. Or if not actually friends, at least know of each other - especially if they are of the same race and age, perhaps they move in similar circles/go to the same parties etc, but never had a reason to really get to know each other before.
 

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I agree. Or if not actually friends, at least know of each other - especially if they are of the same race and age, perhaps they move in similar circles/go to the same parties etc, but never had a reason to really get to know each other before.

I don't really see how that would solve any problems though.
 

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I don't really see how that would solve any problems though.

your problem, as you stated it, is how do all these people meet at the right time for the murder, theft, etc, without it being a coincidence. our solution is, they already know each other. if people are friends at the beginning of a book, you don't have to explain how they became friends, they just are. coincidence resolved.
 

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your problem, as you stated it, is how do all these people meet at the right time for the murder, theft, etc, without it being a coincidence. our solution is, they already know each other. if people are friends at the beginning of a book, you don't have to explain how they became friends, they just are. coincidence resolved.

Well you know I'm not saying they meet while the murder/theft happens. I'm just trying to figure out a way they meet later.
 
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