How much do you believe in your story?

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Nateskate

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I'm going to ask a really tough question, and it applies more to something you consider a very meaningful story project, than your goal to be a writer.

Have you ever had a story you believed in so much you'd pay the ultimate price to ensure wide-spread circulation, and you'd know for certain it would reach tens of millions?

But here is the price. 1) Your name would never apper on the cover. In fact, it would be "author unknown"-even your friends wouldn't know. 2) You would have no monetary reward, but it would reach the world

(Vs) You would know for a fact, if you took credit, the most you would have is a small cult appreciation, and a high five figure reward, but nothing more.

Which would you take? *

* Now, I'm not asking you to lay down your dreams of being an author in this choice, or any other writings.

And it begs the question, have you ever had something you wrote that was more important than you receiving gains and recognition from it?

Inspiration for this question. There are many ancient texts that are precious to the world, and the author is uncertain or completely unknown. Would you be willing to join them for the cause? The ultimate sacrifice for your story.
 

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More than half of my non-fiction stuff falls into that category, and I would be willing to let it be published without anyone knowing it was me if the material got out. Some of it, I believe, if people agreed to follow the priniciples, could solve a lot of problems. Unfortunately, most people have selfish agendas. Alas, the world shall continue to stew like an inferno.
 

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I would do that for my story, but I don't think it would work--not enough people would like it. So, instead, I'll opt for the small cult appreciation and five-figure sum.
 

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Interesting question.

I don't believe I have anything to say that the world NEEDS that badly. Most of my work is the cynical ramblings of your average thirty-something. If I could elicit a chuckle amongst a "small cult following" of like-minded souls, then perhaps I can use the "five-figure" compensation for a little therapy.
 

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astonwest said:
Trust me, for a five figure reward, I'd be willing to live with a small cult following...
So the importance of what you are trying to say plays second fiddle to the money? To me, principle is an important thing, and the melancholy personality, though it may be a mask sometimes, is a lot safer than sanguinity.
 

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LightShadow said:
So the importance of what you are trying to say plays second fiddle to the money?

I think WHAT you're writing plays a big role in how you answer the original question. In my case, even if I wrote the world's GREATEST "chick-lit" novel, I still think I'd take $10,000 and 25,000 readers over $0 and the entire population of China receiving a copy.

Now, on the other hand, if you believe you are divinely inspired or something and your work of philosophy is going to truly change the face of the planet as we know it, you might feel differently.
 

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I haven't discovered a story that the WHOLE WORLD must know and read. ;) I guess I'm not that sage yet.
 

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Definitely I'd take the small cult following and the money. I'm writing a book (YA fantasy) that I hope is entertaining and well written enough to sell. If I can't sell it to a commercial publisher for a decent advance, it gets filed in the trunk. I can live with that.
 

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Stories don't reach the level of world changing philosophy, usually, but occasionally a non-fiction study of humanity will. I'm pretty passionate about these things. That's why there is some stuff I'd just assume have out there for the world to see without necessarily needing monetary compensation. Some call it inspired convictions.
 

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While I'm passionate about my story, and it's one that I need to tell, I'm not so sure the world needs to read it. I get a ton of pleasure from knowing that my beta readers enjoyed it, and I believe in my heart there are others like them who would enjoy it as well. But it's a romp. I don't pretend to be delivering some deep message that will change lives. It's a few hours of entertainment, with a light-hearted look at a common concept in a different way.

I'd take the money and hope enough of my cult following will buy the next book, and the next. :)
 

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I'd take the credit, the money, and the cult following over the anonymous wide circulation.

I guess I just don't think I or anything I could say is THAT important that it MUST reach the world. I'd like to entertain a decent sized audience, make some cash, and earn a reputation. I'm not a revolutionary or a messiah, so...the whole world doesn't have to read it.
 

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The money and the cult following.

Ask me again in 20 years when, hopefully, I won't be so dirt poor, and I'll have more things to say and wisdom to back it up. Then maybe my answer will change.
 

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I believe that if your writing has some meaning, it's worth as money as well as, at least, the readers (don't know about a cult - sounds stupid). The levels of a message could be different - from the universal to daily-life, but if it's done well, people enjoy in any case. Or you think you are a God? Doubt...
 

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Nateskate said:
Have you ever had a story you believed in so much you'd pay the ultimate price to ensure wide-spread circulation, and you'd know for certain it would reach tens of millions?

But here is the price. 1) Your name would never apper on the cover. In fact, it would be "author unknown"-even your friends wouldn't know. 2) You would have no monetary reward, but it would reach the world

Well, let’s see. I’m passionate about my writing. I must be, because I do it for no pay and no recognition. And, with all my submissions, eventually some big-name writer will get one of my ideas from an agent. He’ll dust it off and run with it, and it will change the world. He’ll make gazillions, and I’ll be like that guy who invented the theory of evolution. No, not Darwin, the guy he stole it from. What’s his name.

 
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I'd rather have a small following of people who appreciated what I said, and understood where I was coming from, than a gazillion people perverting my words.

That, and the money. :D
 

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LightShadow said:
So the importance of what you are trying to say plays second fiddle to the money? To me, principle is an important thing, and the melancholy personality, though it may be a mask sometimes, is a lot safer than sanguinity.
Personally, I'm just a story-teller, plain and simple.
Sometimes my stories have some meaning (such as Hero showed that even if a person shows the world an air of not wanting to get involved, they can still end up doing the right thing when it matters), but the meaning usually ends up taking a back seat to the story...because that's what I want to do, tell a story.

Granted, that's probably why I'll end up with neither of the two options, but......
 

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Nateskate said:
Have you ever had a story you believed in so much you'd pay the ultimate price to ensure wide-spread circulation, and you'd know for certain it would reach tens of millions?

But here is the price. 1) Your name would never apper on the cover. In fact, it would be "author unknown"-even your friends wouldn't know. 2) You would have no monetary reward, but it would reach the world

(Vs) You would know for a fact, if you took credit, the most you would have is a small cult appreciation, and a high five figure reward, but nothing more.

Which would you take? *

I guess I'm going to be the exception. I don't see lack of recognition as any price at all. Certainly not an ultimate price. I prefer not receiving the recognition, money or no money. Lack of recognition is a bonus, not a price.

I have written a number of things my family and friends don't know about. To paraphrase the old commercial, only my agent knows for sure. I like it this way.

But even if I didn't, I'd still take the money and run. Writing, I think, should be about the writing, not about the writer. I can say the same things, write the same words, whether anyone knows I wrote them or not. If I could write a book the world needs, it wouldn't mean the world needs me to go along with it.

And while I can understand why anyone would want enough money to never have to worry about bills again, I don't for the life of me understand the desire for fame. Give me anonymity and a check, and you can keep the recognition.
 

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DixieChic said:
I think WHAT you're writing plays a big role in how you answer the original question. In my case, even if I wrote the world's GREATEST "chick-lit" novel, I still think I'd take $10,000 and 25,000 readers over $0 and the entire population of China receiving a copy.

Now, on the other hand, if you believe you are divinely inspired or something and your work of philosophy is going to truly change the face of the planet as we know it, you might feel differently.

Tremendous insight. I've wrestled with my own question, and yes, I agree, it's almost a spiritual question, because I think I'd be going crazy wanting to tell someone, metaphorically, "I wrote Homer's Odessy"

It's such a philosophical dilema, in that our desire is for our work to be appreciated, but when it comes to our work, and us, do we feel the same about it? That's the question, because in scenario one, the author never gets credit. However, in scenario one, the work is the focus.

And I agree also with everyone, it's an easier question in regards to non-fiction, because your political, philosophical, spiritual goals, may "in your mind", be worth falling on your sword for. In a sense, you believe the message is more important than you fame, comfort, and in some cases, your life "In the giving sense, not the taking sense".

However, what if you've thrown it all into your fiction? Would Tolkien, or C.S Lewis have made that trade if it was the only posibility offered to either, Tolkien for LOTR/Silmarillion, and Lewis for Chronicles of Narnia? I think this would have been a difficult question for both. Now, with Lewis, I believe he was the kind of person who believed you influence the world through your fiction. In a sense, the question would likely have caused him a certain amount of anguish, or perhaps it would have been an instantaneous answer.

Then again, perhaps extenuating circumstances can come into play, "I need the money for my wife's medical care." Tolkien was financially strapped after WW2, and his wife had physical problems. In a sense, he started out very hands on with translations of LOTR, and to the point where he didn't want certain translations to be printed in some countries, because they wouldn't come to an agreement on names, and the the interpretations of what he was saying. But later, he basically compromised due to financial needs, sort of, "I really don't like this, but I'll let it go, right now circumstances for me to compromise my standards.
 
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