Revisions but no contract - what to do?

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Hello,

I need some advice, and would love to hear what you think.

I submitted my manuscript to about 20 different agents. So far, 8 of them asked for a full manuscript. 3 of them already rejected, and now my full manuscript is under review by 5 different agents.

Today, I got a call from one of them. She was extremely enthusiastic, and loved the project. She offered a ton of useful suggestions on how to make it better, and I absolutely agree that a revision is necessary. She did not make any mention of a contract, but did express her desire to see the revisions done quickly, and said "I would love to work with you." She also mentioned that she has recently sold a similar type of work in a fantastic deal, and is looking forward to making it happen again with my book.

So my question is - what do I do about the other agents. Do I let them know to hold off on reading my manuscript, to see where it ends up with this agent? Or do I just let them be, and see if I get any other offers. In my mind, all the agents are pretty much equal as far as desirability is concerned, so I don't have any particular preference.

So, what should I do? I just want to finish this project and get it over to an agent to let them do their magic.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
 
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You should read this post:

http://nathanbransford.blogspot.com/2008/09/dont-get-caught-up-in-rush.html

Personally, I think if you feel that this agent has given you some really good suggestions, go with it. Revise. Do what it takes to make this the best product ever.

As for the other agents, I'd leave them be for now. If someone else calls you up and does offer representation, at that point you'll have to weigh your options.
 

Danthia

I agree. Since she said she'd love to work with you and soudned like she planned to sell your book, you could ask for clarification what she meant. Nothing wrong with a quick, "just so I'm sure we're on the same page, what did you mean by..." type comment. She might be anticipating an offer if you work well together and you show you can handle the revision process.
 

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I also agree. As long as you believe the revisions will make your book stronger, I recommend making them, but not withdrawing your submissions elsewhere until such time as you DO have a contract with the agent requesting revisions. If another agent offers representation in the meantime, then you will want to inform the agent who requested the revisions and see how you want to proceed from there.

Best of luck!
 

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I definitely think that the revisions will make my book stronger. The revisions will take my project from a novelty humor piece to a real work of literature, even containing a statement. However, I am so unmotivated to work on that book now! I guess I'll post about it in another thread, for some inspiration.

Anyway, another issue is that I wish that the agents who currently have my full would wait until I can give them the revised one. I guess that's unreasonable. I just wish I had a contract, so that I can focus my mind on the revisions, rather than still being absorbed by the query process.
 

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Ditto to what Jo said.
 

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Congratulations by the way, SleepSheep. You obviously have something that's generating interest, AND a way to make it better.
 

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keep in mind sometimes agents like to see how an author is to work with i.e. how willing they are to change and revise and how fast they work.
Research the agent on Publishers marketplace and take this time to decide whether this is where you want to be.
Although my agent offered representation I didn't actually sign an agency contract for several months...
 

Danthia

Contracts come slowly in this biz. It was weeks after I accepted an offer that mine came in the mail. That didn't stop us from working. And I'm deep into revisions with my editor now and still no contract. It's all agreed and everything, so I'm not worried, but it can take months for those things to finally come in.

I know this sounds crazy, but the agent said she'd love to work with you, which keeps sticking in my head...you didn't get an unclear offer and not realize it did you? Maybe inadvertantly accepted without knowing what you were agreeing to?
 

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She said "I would love to work with you" and kept talking about how she sold a similar type of work in a great deal. But she never mentioned the word "contract" at all, and I didn't ask. I know it's common for agents to ask for elaborate revisions, and end up rejecting the MS anyway, so I am trying to keep my hopes down.
 

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You may want to eventually ask. I remember when I met my not yet agent in person for the first time, I'd gone through one round of edits already, and then in person she was asking me for more. We talked for about an hour when I finally had to ask, "Um . . . and if I do all this, what happens then? Will you represent me?"

And know what my soon to be agent said? "Yes I would like to be your agent. *laugh* I always wait to see how long it takes for the author to ask me that."

Ah what a sense of humour them agents have . . .
 

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Thank you Toothpaste and Danthia for giving me some hope. I just wonder why an agent wouldn't just come out and say it. She never asked for an exclusive read, nor did she ask about how many other people have the MS (and I didn't volunteer the info). But she was extremely speedy, and read my full over the course of a weekend, and spent an hour on the phone with me the following day talking about revisions and making that mysterious "would love to work with you" comment.

After I sent her my revisions next week, I'll see what she says. If she comes back with yet more revisions, I'll definitely bring up the issue of representation. If she comes back with a rejection, I'll at least be happy for all the constructive feedback that she gave me.
 

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"I would love to work with you" is another way of saying she'd love to represent you if all goes well with the revisions. My former agent used the phrase "with an eye toward representation" when she suggested some revisions, which I appreciated.

Also in your favor is that she was fast and spent an hour on the phone with you! If I were to shake a Magic 8 Ball, it would no doubt say, "Outlook good."

But yeah, if she comes back with more revisions, then I would definitely get some clarification on the relationship.

Best of luck!
 

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You know, I don't think I have a signed contract at all with my agent, and I've been with her for a good 6 or 7 years.
 

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Thanks all for the encouragement. I am going to send a new draft with the revisions to the agent at the end of this week, and will keep you posted about what happens. Everything I've read here, in terms of success stories, usually culminates in the happy "signed a contract" ending, so that's what I am looking for. I do wish the agent would clarify her intentions, because I have my full MS out with a bunch of other agents, and if she decided to represent me, I wouldn't want to waste anybody else's time.
 

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She won't offer to represent you until she sees how you work on the revisions. This is a test for you, so make your ms as good as you can and don't rush it.
 

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You may want to eventually ask. I remember when I met my not yet agent in person for the first time, I'd gone through one round of edits already, and then in person she was asking me for more. We talked for about an hour when I finally had to ask, "Um . . . and if I do all this, what happens then? Will you represent me?"

And know what my soon to be agent said? "Yes I would like to be your agent. *laugh* I always wait to see how long it takes for the author to ask me that."

Ah what a sense of humour them agents have . . .

:roll:
 

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Hi Everyone,

I have an update on this one, and would appreciate any info or guidance on how to proceed.

Last week I sent an updated version of the MS to the agent, which she promised to get to right away. She was true to her word, and this morning I received an email from her saying:

"A much improved draft! Below are new notes from one of my best readers and a likely audience for the book. I do agree with her main criticisms. Contact me if you need any clarification.

Followed that was an extremely detailed review, pointing out the good, and the not-so-good stuff, with a clear direction for a new set of extensive revisions. (One of the good comments indicated that the reader thought the market for this sort of work is wide open, which is always a good sign).

Now I am even more confused than ever!

The revisions seem to be good and will undoubtedly make the book stronger. I am also thinking that the agent wouldn't be spending so much time with me if she wasn't interested in actually selling the book. Furthermore, the speed with which she read my manuscript (over the weekend) and the revised manuscript (about 5 days) indicates that she is interested and means business.

So what should my next steps be? I will work on the revisions, of course, but it would put my little fluttering heart at rest to know that she will represent me. Not having to continue querying would give me the time and mental capacity to concentrate on the revisions (which are pretty monumental, to be honest).

Four other agents currently have a full, one has a partial, and just last week I got a request for another partial which I didn't send in yet. While two of these agents are from supposedly big shot agencies, I would most prefer to work with this agent because she is speedy with her responses, and has invested a lot into the revisions.

I am confused as to how to proceed, so please please please, give me your advice!
 

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Well I would just say if you like the revision suggestions, take them and keep hoping.

BUT

If you really cannot handle the not knowing, if you want to take the risk (because this really depends on the personality of the agent), you may wish to write the following:

Thank you so much for your excellent suggestions, they are most helpful and I see will make the story much stronger, I shall begin on them immediately. Please forgive me, however, if the following comes across as presumptuous, but I have never been at this stage before, and I am not exactly sure what the procedure is. Once I make these revisions what do you envision happening? Do you think you might be interested in representing my work? Are you still unsure, and would you rather therefore see what I do with this next set of suggestions before committing yourself? I do not mind either way, and right now am just really thrilled to be working with someone to make my work as solid as possible. But I must admit I am curious as to what the next step might be.

I hope you don't find this email presumptuous. Thank you so much again for all the work you've already put into my manuscript.

all best,

Me


Now I would still send out a partial to those who have requested it, explaining that you currently have a full with another agency. Don't put all your eggs into one basket. Not yet.
 

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Thanks Toothpaste. I really want to do that, but am kind of nervous, because this is the closest that I've ever come.

Should I mention other agents' interest in the work to this agent? Or is that just inviting a rejection?
 

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Hon, no one can say for sure. I can't give you the magic path to take that will automatically give you an agent. And frankly that responsibility freaks the heck out of me. You have to trust your instincts. You are the one who has a relationship now with this agent, you can sense what kind of person she is. Will she be upset that you didn't mention other people were looking at this MS earlier? Will she appreciate it? I can't answer that for you. Now we can all speculate, but in the end, you are the best judge.

The best advice I can give is be professional in whatever you choose, express your gratitude for her time and help. If you feel this concerned about what to do, maybe it is best to do nothing. Make the revisions, send them back. Let the situation run its course without your interference. What will be will be, you might be able to speed up whatever that "be" is, but in the end, waiting is not the worst thing in the world.
 

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Toothpaste, thanks for your advice. I do think that I have to focus on making the revisions, and see how it plays out. I would still love to hear what others think about the situations, and whether anyone has had a similar experience that eventually resulted in a contract.
 

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Well I already shared I thought my experience in this thread. I think a lot of people have already expressed their similar experiences. I went through serious edits with my agent before she signed me. And there are many other stories of authors who have gone through just what you are with positive results.

But unfortunately there are also stories of the reverse.

There is truly no pattern.

But for fun stories to read, sure, I have written in a lot of detail about mine in two blog entries, the first here, second here. :)