Would these mean the same thing?

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I'm trying to go through my ms and nix the word "Was" as much as possible.

Here is the sentence:

His hesitation to strike her down earlier only proved her youth was indeed in her favor.


I changed it to:

His hesitation to strike her down earlier only proved her youth favored her.

"in her favor" and "favored her". To me, it means the same thing, but I'm being overly obsessive seeing as this is my final run through. Thoughts?
 

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Maybe it's just because I'm not reading it in context, but that sentence seems to contain a lot of information. There's four verbs in your initial sentence.

Also, I think it's youth that favours someone, rather than someone's youth favouring them, but I've read the sentence too many times now!
 

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In the right context I don't see anything desperately wrong with the original.

'Was' isn't doing any harm.
 

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I'm with April. Split your sentence down the middle. Something like

He had hesitated to strike her down. Perhaps youth was indeed in her favour.
 

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It is a bit lumpy, huh? Priene, I'll take your suggestion but I can't use 'Perhaps'. It's a bad word of mine I tend to overuse. I'll play with it some.
 

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You can't (and shouldn't) get rid of all "was" and "is".

"X was in her favor" and "x favored her" do NOT mean the same thing.
 

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His hesitation to strike her down earlier only proved her youth was indeed in her favor.

That's an acceptable use of 'was'. However, if you really need to change it because you're already using 'was' too often in the same paragraph, you could try something like
His hesitation to strike her down earlier only proved the advantage of her youth.
 

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"in her favor" and "favored her". To me, it means the same thing, but

They don't mean the same thing. "X is in her favor" (or "X weighs in her favor," etc.) means that a certain factor, X, gives her an advantage. In contrast, as a general rule, "X favored her" means that X is a person (or a personified force)--that is, someone or something that has preferences--and he/she/it prefers her. "Susan favors dark colors" = Susan prefers dark colors. "The dean favors the other candidate" = the dean would prefer to hire the other candidate.

There are expressions in which "X favors Y" works the way you're trying to make it work here. For example, "The darkness favored their escape." But I've never heard that use of favor with a person as the object, and when I try to imagine sentences that work that way, they all sound strange. That may be because in these expressions, X ("the darkness") is making Y ("escape") easier to do, and that obviously doesn't make sense if Y is a person.

I'm trying to go through my ms and nix the word "Was" as much as possible.

Why? There's nothing wrong with the verb "to be" in its various forms.
 

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There is if it's overused or lazily used. Nothing wrong with checking and 'nixing' those 'was's that are weakening the prose.

....Why? There's nothing wrong with the verb "to be" in its various forms.
 

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There is if it's overused or lazily used. Nothing wrong with checking and 'nixing' those 'was's that are weakening the prose.

Not counting the referential use of "was," you used some form of the verb "to be" three times in that sentence alone, and the only one I would even consider nixing is "that are weakening": you could say "that weaken," but even that is a mere stylistic quibble. Otherwise it works fine.

The reason it works just fine to use "to be" all over the place in English prose is because "to be" is an irregular verb, so it doesn't look or sound repetitive: is, 's, and are provide variation simply because they look and sound different. By contrast, if you used versions of the verb "to talk" three times in a sentence, it would sound ridiculous because the verb is regular: "I talked to him about talking to her, and he said they already talked..."

But I agree that there are three circumstances in which nixing "to be" is clearly desirable:
(1) when there is a more vivid verb you could use in its place that works better for the story: "She is beautiful"--why not "She dazzles every man she meets," or something to that effect?
(2) when you're using it to create a passive-voice sentence, and the sentence would work better in the active voice: "The jewels were eaten by Seigfried and Roy's tigers" --> "Seigfried and Roy's tigers ate the jewels"
(3) when it's used as what I think of as "verbal throat-clearing," adding meaningless words to get a sentence or clause started: "There is a reason I called you here today, and it is because..." --> "The reason I called you here today is that [or is because]..."
 

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Glad you agree. But....forgive me....

Ooooooooh! The reason....is because :rant:

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(3) when it's used as what I think of as "verbal throat-clearing," adding meaningless words to get a sentence or clause started: "There is a reason I called you here today, and it is because..." --> "The reason I called you here today is that [or is because]..."
 
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