What do you call this device?

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What do you call this: It's like a flashback, but the protagonist or viewpoint character relives the same scene over and over again, revealing slightly different things to the reader each time. At first, barely anything is revealed. Gradually more and more of the scene is described, until finally we have the whole story. The reader gets the idea that this scene is primarily responsible for shaping the character, and they stay hungry to find out more in each iteration. When we find out how the flashback scene really ends, or what it really means, it explains the story of the novel or it explains the arc of the character.

Examples: In Catch-22, Yossarian has a bunch of different flashbacks to one scene, Snowden's death, each one telling slightly more than the last. In this case, it's somewhat along the lines of reliving trauma in PTSD, though Heller wouldn't have called it that.

In Gateway, by Fred Pohl, the protagonist keeps retelling his fateful last voyage. His therapist wants him to talk about it, but we don't hear the whole story until the end because the protagonist doesn't want to talk about it. At the point we find out what happened to him, we realize why the character is who he is.

In Light, by M. John Harrison, two very traumatized protagonists with amnesia are having different flashbacks to a scene in childhood. We gradually realize that the scenes are the same and the characters used to interact with one another.

There are lots of other examples I am certain. Anyone know what you call this device? Any advice for writing it well? Any other good examples of it to check out? Thanks!
 

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Rashomon made this device famous. The same events were recounted by different characters, each revealing different things from different perspectives. It has become its own term: The Rashomon Effect, which is basically a superset of the "unreliable narrator."

Now, I don't know if there's a special term to describe such a literary device outside of perspectives and flashbacks.
 

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Sounds like the movie Vantage Point, too.

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Yes... but the execution of Vantage Point drove me crazy. In fact, the audience kept laughing and then got really irritated as the clock kept going back and we kept seeing the same scenes (from different perspective) over and over again.

Another movie is Rendition with Meryl Streep and Jake Gyllenhaal. The same scenes are repeated at different places, revealing more and more and then the final reveal at the end of what really happened. It's a bit manipulative to me, but done very well.
 
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Kitty, I'm not sure this is a device. It's backstory. The way you suggest using it is like interrupted recollection sprinkled through the story. I used something similar in my suspense novel Desert Guardian where I have one of my main characters divulge bits and pieces of his traumatic past, but it never comes out at all at once. These are his thoughts as he relates the present to the past. His memories help establish his motivation for the reader and everything from his past is revealed by the middle of the book.

I think you need to be careful not to depend too heavily on backstory as a plot element. Small amounts used judiciously can enhance a story, but too much can weigh a story down and seriously inhibit its pace.
 

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Hmmm, actually a montage is just a collection of scenes and images. It doesn't say anything about repeated scenes with variation of information and points of view.
 

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I don't think it's a montage. It's not quite the Rashomon thing either. Let me try to give a better example. We have Tortured Protagonist trying to earn her zoology PhD. Something is terribly wrong with her but we don't really know why. On page 20 she thinks back to that terrible day when her fifth grade class went to the zoo. The reader is dying to know what happened. On page 43 she remembers the mocking laughter of the chimpanzees in the monkey house with a shudder. On page 77 we reiterate the fact that trauma occurred in childhood at the zoo, primates were involved, and we further learn of our protagonist's crippling fear of bananas. Page 103 we get a full narration of the story, up to the point where she dares her best friend Billy to taunt the silverback gorilla with a banana from his lunch. By now the reader is chomping at the bit. Finally the payoff on page 137 as we find out that poor Billy was dismembered by the gorilla as our MC looks on in horror. When our MC isn't having these flashbacks to one scene, she is busy doing animal research, dating hunky zoologists, uncovering black market exotic animal trading, etc, and having an overall story arc, of which the remembered scene is one important part. Is there a specific name for revealing the back story bit by bit like this? (No, I am not writing a novel about a traumatized zoologist.)
 

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I like the traumatized zoologist. :D

This sounds like what I was talking about in my post above. What you describe is backstory. And backstory is an excellent story telling device when used in moderation as you describe in your scenario.
 

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I really don't think there's a name for this (I'll wait for the literary experts to put in their 2 cents). It's just a slow reveal via flashbacks... telling the readers what they need to know when they need to know. Building suspense, etc.

And no, it's not Rashomon Effect. ;)
 

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Oh, I like that sort of thing! There was something like that in the movie Total Recall, as we keep finding out more and more about what *really* happened to the protagonist.

Don't know that it has a proper name other than a recurring flashback.

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I didn't like how Vantage Point executed it either. To me, the right way to do it would be do a flashback that starts at point A, and proceeds like this:

Flashback A--->B
Resume Story
Flashback, B--->C
Resume Story
Flashback, C---->D

Instead of:

Flashback A--->B
Resume Story
Flashback, A--->C
Resume Story
Flashback, A---->D

If that makes any sense.
 

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I believe Rowling used something like this in one of the Harry Potter books (#5?). Harry kept on having a dream and kept on getting a little further detail throughout. Might have just been in the movie, I can't remember.
 

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Even TV has done this. Remember the episode of M*A*S*H when Hawkeye went bonkers? He kept talking about the woman with the chicken, but it got a little more detailed each time, until finally he broke through the fact that it hadn't been a chicken at all, but a baby.

And no, I don't know what it's called either.
 

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I don't think it has a formal name.

The movie Spellbound is all about this: one character has a vivid but innocuous memory that turns out to be a "screen memory" for something that, when he breaks through his psychological defenses, turns out to be something quite horrifying and surprising.
 

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But...but...it's a thing! It HAS to have a name! <sulks>
 

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I call it bloody annoying, unless you're a really amazing writer and can get away with it.

I think I'm the only person on this planet who absolutely hated Pohl's Gateway. I kept yelling at the author "get ON with it already!"

It's interesting that some posts on this thread use examples of films, rather than novels. Perhaps it works better in a visual medium.

Some writers can get away with it, but I can't recall any offhand. I've used flashbacks, but the repeat flashback device (it's what I call it) is not something I enjoy reading, so I don't write them.

Tom Clancy has used it. He had five different characters witnessing the same traumatic event, so he wrote at length of what they saw and how they felt and what they did afterward. Unlike Roshoman, NONE of them added anything new to move the plot forward. It was deadwood page filler. I stopped reading him some while back, but made a note to myself not to do that.
 

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But...but...it's a thing! It HAS to have a name! <sulks>

I'd call it a "subplot", if it's reasonably prominent.

Else, I'd call it a "distributed flashback", which is a fancy term I just made up. ;)
 

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I think there's a bit of confusion regarding the term "flashback." There are two different meanings that I'm aware of--the literary flashback in which a story or a character flashes back to reveal past info, and the psychological flashback when a person, usually suffering some sort of trauma, mentally flashes back and "relives" an event in their past as if it's happening again. (See PTSD.)

What you're describing, basically, sounds like psychological flashbacks used as literary flashbacks--a psychological reaction used to reveal past information to the reader. One type of flashback used to illustrate the other type. Sorry that that isn't much of an answer, but to me, it sounds like the only answer. :eek:
 

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Interesting discussion. I'm afraid I'm not much help though, I don't know exactly what to call it either (other than the generic 'flashback').

My story has two extended flashbacks (which I actually think of as a story within a story). In the first one, it goes from A -> B (where B ends with someone being killed) and then the second flashback goes from B -> C (where we find that that the person wasn't really killed and what really happened afterward).

It sort of worries me because 'flashbacks' seem to be not well regarded but I can't really tell the story any other way since a good part of the main plot is about the protagonist slowly realizing that B couldn't have happened the way it was explained in the first flashback.

(Boy, I'd hate to have to diagram that last sentence.)
 

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If I were to give it a name that describes what it does, how about "Incremental memory recall."
 
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