RWA'S Code of Ethics

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I wonder how much tweaking was done this year as a direct result of Certain Writers? Check out clauses 2-5!

http://www.rwanational.org/cs/code_of_ethics


What was surprising to me is I got this as part of an article by Nancy Holder--written for The Bulletin--which is for SFWA members! http://www.sfwa.org/

S.F. writers and readers are crossing the aisle into romance.

Mention was made in another piece by Mike Resnick about paranormal romances. He was a bit patronizing, but we get that a lot and he wasn't being mean. He can't disrespect the sales figures, though.
 

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Thanks so passing that on, Gillhoughly! Amazing that 4 out of 9 of them have to deal with stealing, and of course quite sad. You may have read the article at Dear Author regarding the panel held at RWA that was vastly underattended for a number of reasons. There are some of details in copyright laws that I could see as being done unintentionally or without malicious intent that could land people in hot water, some of them I never would have really thought about unless they were brought to my attention. Hopefully they will consider holding the panel again next year, and more people will take a moment to listen. I think it was also mentioned that these would be excellent topics to discuss in the regular RWA chapter meetings. Regardless, I hope they are discussed.

Glad to see SF writers coming over to Romance (BWA AH AH AH AHHHHHH *rubbing hands together*)! Does this mean the SF writers are actively writing more romance, or that they are simply being shelved in romance? I don't know what context the paranormal romance article was written in, but I will say that after I read a good deal of paranormal romance books, I started playing in the SF/F aisle more often. Not because I didn't want to read romance (I'll always read romance!), but the paranormal elements really whet my tongue for straight Fantasy. And I have to say that a lot of SF/F have romantic storylines that are just as satisfying. This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship :D
 

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I don't write romance or sf, but it's dispiriting when any professional writing organization has to draft rules forbidding stealing from someone else's work.

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I wonder if "conduct injurious to RWA" might include discussion of its constantly changing and specious published-author qualifications? This was part of the reason I dropped my membership, so I guess they can't get me.:D
 

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Writers beware! Unfortunately, stealing is all too common. Before turning to Regency Romance, I was screenwriter in L.A. for a decade. Though I have not personally been victim of stealing, lots of cases of friends (& major lawsuit against Paramount back in 1990 or 1991 by big-time journalist Art Buchwald -- for stealing his idea for a story he "pitched" to the studio that they "passed" on but later was made into big Eddie Murphy movie, COMING TO AMERICA -- then a 2nd lawsuit after Buchwald won the 1st case for copyright infringement -- for his fair share of profits. Case made Hollywood history bcs it blew the cover on the fraudulent system studios used to determine "net profits".)

When I finished my own novel, I printed out & snail-mailed to myself Certified Mail (& kept receipt & unopened box w/ manuscript) BEFORE showing to anyone. I also put copyright on every page. I don't belong to any writer's groups anymore, so no chance there for anyone to steal ideas. But one has to be careful -- even "paranoid" -- to protect the work in which one has invested so much time & effort. You don't want to be the victim in your own sad tale.

Anyhoo, I think RWA's just trying to cover all the bases, & I applaud that. I'm new to RWA membership. Haven't gone to a meeting yet -- but list of agents who attended their recent conference in San Francisco was, by itself, worth the membership fee-- at the time. (Until I found loads of online resources to find agents for Romance.) I do find the magazine articles & links helpful, but...

I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED that they don't offer more help for yet-to-be-published Romance writers. That was my main reason for joining!

When I saw the requirements for joining PRO, it was, well-- by the time you meet those requirements, what do you need PRO for? So, the membership fee is a bit steep for just the magazine -- & have since found that Internet resources allow you to build your own list of Romance agents (see QueryTracker.net ) -- RWA certification doesn't really mean anything -- more helpful to check agents' rep's in Preditors & Editors listing. Still, RWA does have useful info for budding writers. If you have the money, & want to publish in Romance, is useful -- just not essential.
 

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When I finished my own novel, I printed out & snail-mailed to myself Certified Mail (& kept receipt & unopened box w/ manuscript) BEFORE showing to anyone. I also put copyright on every page.

This is sometimes called the "poor man's copyright", and it is as useless as the RWA.


Anyhoo, I think RWA's just trying to cover all the bases, & I applaud that. I'm new to RWA membership. Haven't gone to a meeting yet -- but list of agents who attended their recent conference in San Francisco was, by itself, worth the membership fee-- at the time. (Until I found loads of online resources to find agents for Romance.) I do find the magazine articles & links helpful, but...

I'm VERY DISAPPOINTED that they don't offer more help for yet-to-be-published Romance writers. That was my main reason for joining!

Personally I think the RWA is geared far more towards unpublished writers and offers very little help to published ones. But then I also think they don't do much for anyone, really. They publish an okay magazine and hold some contests and a convention. They don't actually seem to "help" anybody, IMO.

Of course, I hear some local groups can be great. Personally I think you could get the same benefit from simply posting a note looking for people to join a romance writing group, and save the money you pay for national and chapter dues for bourbon (a much better use of funds IMO.)

I'm just digging my RWA grave...
 

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LOL, we "semi-published" folks think RWA's geared more toward PAN-eligible pubbed authors and unpubbed authors. Unpubbed folks think it's the pubbed ones. PAN-eligible types think it's everyone else!

See a pattern here? I don't belong now, so I can't guess as to which group(s) they're serving/not serving. But maybe they're trying to be all things to all romance writers, and are therefore spreading themselves very thin, and not responding to anyone's needs very well.

Thoughts?
 

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Whereas I remember in the 1990's when RWA went to bat for authors and got Harlequin to change their boilerplate contract so the publisher no longer owned the author's name, as well as other things they've done over the years. I don't consider them a waste, I just don't think they have something solid to dig their formidable teeth into at the moment. RWA has done good in the past (benefiting all Romance writers, not just members) and may well do so again. Time will tell.

Getting back on-topic: Personally, I applaud the spelling-out of their ethics and posting them for all to see. If you don't like it, don't join. Not hard. RWA isn't perfect, but at least they can stand up for what they believe in and not let admitted/convicted plagerists back in, or someone who has acted in the group's name without authority, or whatever the case might be. It's right there and if you don't read it, well, ignorance isn't a defense.

I'd much rather be part of a group that's upfront with what ethics are expected from their members than one who play games and do things behind the scenes. Just part of the professionalism I'd expect from a group.
 

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See a pattern here? I don't belong now, so I can't guess as to which group(s) they're serving/not serving. But maybe they're trying to be all things to all romance writers, and are therefore spreading themselves very thin, and not responding to anyone's needs very well.

Thoughts?

Yes. I think you're right. It's hard to meet the needs of such a diverse group. No group can be all things to all people, and RWA really tries to do that.

RWA was terrific in getting HQ to turn over the keys (rights) to the pen names (an issue near and dear to my heart) but I THINK there were other groups (like, Ninc, perhaps?) also working with them in conjunction. But I'm not sure. I may be misremembering that. <shrug>

I think that like from many things, you make of it what you will. :)

Susan G. - who didn't go to the workshop on plagerism, but NOT because I don't think it's an important issue. I DO. But conflict made it so I couldn't go. Sheesh, I wonder if that same person thought "Oh, look, a class on POV that hardly anyone went to. I guess writers don't consider POV important."
 

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Whereas I remember in the 1990's when RWA went to bat for authors and got Harlequin to change their boilerplate contract so the publisher no longer owned the author's name, as well as other things they've done over the years. I don't consider them a waste, I just don't think they have something solid to dig their formidable teeth into at the moment. RWA has done good in the past (benefiting all Romance writers, not just members) and may well do so again. Time will tell.

I hear about that HQ thing a lot, and without taking away from the fact that it was indeed a great thing to do, it seems to be the only example anyone can come up with (and with all due respect, any other writer's organization could have done that just as effectively). And it didn't benefit all romance writers, just all Harlequin writers. Most of what the RWA does seems very bound up with Harlequin; that's one of my issues with them, actually, because I think single-title writers get shunted aside and the organization bends over backwards to keep its relationship with HQ strong to the detriment of other subgenres.

Getting back on-topic: Personally, I applaud the spelling-out of their ethics and posting them for all to see. If you don't like it, don't join. Not hard. RWA isn't perfect, but at least they can stand up for what they believe in and not let admitted/convicted plagiarists back in, or someone who has acted in the group's name without authority, or whatever the case might be. It's right there and if you don't read it, well, ignorance isn't a defense.

Having said what I said above, though, I strongly agree with this. I also applaud it, and wonder if lines like "conduct injurious to RWA" might include things like, say, claiming you're going to name a character in your next book after someone who gave you a so-so review, and publicly rubbing your hands together over what a terrible character it will be and what a messy death it will have, while telling people not to mess with writers because we'll cut a bitch? I certainly think it should. But either way, I do think the Code of Ethics is a step forward.


It's not that I think the RWA is terrible. I just don't think it really does much for anyone, and that it deliberately treats some of its members like second-class citizens simply because they write more sex or same-sex sex. And I think--through no fault of its own--people build it up to be far more important than it is, like having PRO or PAN status is actually a big deal rather than just a ribbon or badge in an organization, you know?
 

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I hear about that HQ thing a lot, and without taking away from the fact that it was indeed a great thing to do, it seems to be the only example anyone can come up with (and with all due respect, any other writer's organization could have done that just as effectively). And it didn't benefit all romance writers, just all Harlequin writers. Most of what the RWA does seems very bound up with Harlequin; that's one of my issues with them, actually, because I think single-title writers get shunted aside and the organization bends over backwards to keep its relationship with HQ strong to the detriment of other subgenres.

At the time this negotation happened, HQ published about 54% of all Romance paperbacks out there. It was a BIG deal back in the 1990's. Now, HQ has lost a noteable percentage of the market and is still in the process of restructuring to a more single-title based company, IIRC. There were other publishers (again, IIRC) who were beginning to use the HQ boilerplate contracts, so HQ backing off that rather nipped that in the bud.

It might be the only really big noteable thing RWA has done, but getting your genre's major publisher to change the boilerplate contract is a sign of major clout and, frankly, something I've not heard of any other genre writer's group accomplishing.

It's not that I think the RWA is terrible. I just don't think it really does much for anyone, and that it deliberately treats some of its members like second-class citizens simply because they write more sex or same-sex sex.

Just before I left, RWA voted on how the group would define "Romance" in terms of what the group would support. The overwhelming response of the membership was to keep it as heterosexual and not include homosexual romance in the genre. It's not that I think that same-sex writers are second class citizens, it's that they're not writing Genre Romance as recognized by RWA--they're writing a different genre, no different than if they were writing SF/F, Mystery, Westerns, etc. with a strong romantic subplot.

At least, that's how the chapters I belonged to treated them. YMMV.

And I think--through no fault of its own--people build it up to be far more important than it is, like having PRO or PAN status is actually a big deal rather than just a ribbon or badge in an organization, you know?

It's a public acknowledgement of an acheivement. When they established PRO status, my local chapter made a big to-do in those of us who qualified for it. It was very ego-booing to get that public acknowledgement and came at a time when I was thinking about walking away from writing because I was frustrated and tired.

Did becoming PRO make a big deal in the overall of my writing? Only in that I didn't quit and, even though I'm no longer an RWA member, I can still look at that pin and call up that feeling again and keep going for a little while longer, regardless of what I write.

Did it make any difference in my membership? Honestly, not really because all I wanted from the membership was the networking, the monthly updates for contests & industry news and the social aspect it offered. For those who want to climb the ladder and be more involved in the organization, I imagine it would mean more to them than it did to me.

As far as PAN goes, as far as I know or care it's just another chapter in RWA. If they have a snob reputation, then that's their problem. My rights in RWA are the same as theirs and there's more of me (unpublished) then there is of them, so I'm really not concerned about what's gone on with them. Should I ever qualify for PAN membership, it's still just another chapter and I'd make that decision should it ever happen. Until then, *shrug* I could never make a big deal about it.
 

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well, I can say first-hand that the RWA does not enforce the "RWA members strive to treat fellow members, RWA staff, and others with respect." part of the Code. I was treated horrifically by multiple members of the Chicago-North chapter the first and only time I attended a chapter meeting. I complained about it to National and they refused to intervene. And this was a case where the harrassment I was receiving (over breastfeeding my son at a meeting---something protected by state law) was illegal.

RWA obviously isn't interested in enforcing conduct in its members, so I won't set much stock by this.
 

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I feel that 'diversity' is the very issue RWA fails to comprehend, let alone do anything about. I am very happy in the New Zealand Romance Writers Association but would not seriously consider joining RWA at this time (despite being an American resident).
 

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I agree w/ Veinglory. The org is still very much stuck in the 1980s in terms of its leadership and what its leadership thinks the romance genre consists of (i.e., male-female only, mostly white protagonists, etc.----you can see this evidenced in who the Rita winners are every year, for example.) There are also no Rita categories for erotic romance, minority authors, etc. (and I think there should be).
 

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Iyou can see this evidenced in who the Rita winners are every year, for example.)

Like....who, for example? Because even Nora's been beaten numerous times and doesn't win a Rita every year.

And this year we had a new writer who won the Best Contem. Series: Action/Adventure category. This was her first book. So like, how was the fix in for her?

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Susan, I think you misunderstood what I mean by "minority." I was pointing out that it is EXTREMELY rare to see anyone win a Rita who isn't a white female writing about white females. There are almost no minority authors represented even in the nominees, let alone the winners. And again, no category for erotic romance----and it is a major, major subgenre along with paranormal, historical, etc. These two things illustrate the major prejudices that exist in the org----against non-white authors and/or books with non-white characters, and against erotic authors in general.
 

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All the RWA chapters in Arizona are extremely supportive, open and enthusiastic. I don't write category romance (technically, I don't write romance at all), but that hasn't mattered to my chapter or our sister chapters.

Everyone's encouraged, we have a TON of folks who write erotica, m/m and f/f as wel as m/f, and no one's treated second class by anyone else. We also have a lot of cross-chapter sharing. We're encouraged to get to PRO and PAN level because it means our careers are going well.

I've heard that other chapters aren't as great, but I can truly say that the Arizona ones are fabulous. And my chapter is extremely prolific in our publishing, so it's folks walking the walk and talking the talk.

I'm very happy I joined and my only complaint is that I can't make the meetings every month. :D
 

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Susan, I think you misunderstood what I mean by "minority."

No, I misunderstood what you meant, period. <G> I thought you were saying that the same people win the Ritas, year after year. <G>

You have to look at overall numbers. When something is a minority, then by definition it has a lower representation in a population.

It's like saying, holy moly, you RARELY see a man win a Rita. (In fact, I'm not sure if it's ever happened. I don't know my RWA history that well.) How discriminatory!!!

Well, no, it's because we only have a handful of men who write romances, and therefore, the odds of a MAN winning are lower. Basic probability. (Random example - we stick all the RWA members at National conference in the ballroom, and randomly choose one. What are the odds that we're going to pick a female? Pretty damn good. What are the odds that we're going to pick a white female? Also pretty damn good. Because that's what the majority of the population in that ballroom is.)

So, I think as the population of RWA members begins to change (and it is -- we are starting to have more minorities of all sorts, including a few more males. <G>) then you will see that change as well.

As to creating a category specifically for minority books -- well, do you mean written by a minority person, or do you mean featuring a minority character? Because not everyone who writes minority characters belongs to that given minority. And not everyone who's a minority writes ethnic characters. Or wants their work labeled thusly even if they do. Tess (oh, nuts, I'm blanking on her last name) who writes big thrillers now, totally refused her publisher's desire to put her books in the ethnic section. She said they were limiting her audience by doing so. And she was right. She's now a big bestselling author, and if they had stuck her in the slot they wanted to, that probably wouldn't have happened.

I think you would open a HUGE Pandora's box by trying to get a category like this.

I do think there should be a category for erotic romance.

Susan G.
 
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