What does one do at this point?

gophergrrrl

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I have an old script that I wrote a few years back, it's the last installment in a three- part, though the next two parts are prequels. Dare I say, it's a vampire story. I know, I know.. those are so 1998. Humor me, please.

I have multiple problems with this story, and several times, I've retired it. I just keep going back to it, hoping that there's some chance to salvage it. So much work and planning went into it, as the three stories together are so closely woven in their premise and backstory, and I'm having a hard time just shelving it and moving on.

I think a lot of the problem came from the re-writes. It seemed like the more I re-wrote, the more sloppy things got. I would fill a plot hole, and then end up with another, so I'd fill it, only to be left with another gap. I've felt like there were too many characters, too much emphasis on the wrong characters, and some characters even lost their personality as a whole because of the re-writes.

One thing that would greatly help me is to have someone read it and help me pick it apart. I can't critique myself, no one can, and therefore, I need an outside opinion. Someone who doesn't care to read a script that is far too long (149 pages... yeah, I know. Very bad.), someone who can give me good advice on what works and what doesn't, and someone who isn't just going to say "well it's a big ole pile of poo, throw it away". If it's not worth salvaging, I want to know, but if at all possible, I would like to make this script better. I'm just at a point where I don't think I can do it without some help.

Would anyone care to help me?
 

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Ohhhh vampire stories! 1998 or not, I'm a big fan of vampire stories. I've got a few myself that I'm contemplating. I'm happy to read the script with the caveat that you're not going to be upset by feedback. As you may have noticed in a previous critique I gave you, I'm rather honest about things. But, if you wish, I'm happy to read it and provide feedback. Send me a private IM and we'll work out hte details.
 

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An old, 149-page script about vampires? That's 3 strikes before I've even seen the first page! :D

Kudos to your generous volunteers, but what one does at this point is an emotionless surgical edit that trims the fluff down to a lean 100 pages or thereabouts, otherwise the script may as well be staked.

/opinion, not gospel

-Derek
 

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This may sound sort of challenging, but why not shelve it and just re-write it from the beginning? It sounds like it may be more trouble to fix than to just start over.
 

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Laugh if you must folks, but this script does have redeeming qualities.

Others have agreed, though it does need a great deal of fluff trimming, (as you call it Derek :eek:] ), it's still not as poorly written as many scripts that I've seen. I'm not tooting my own horn, just stating the facts. I myself proof read for a few other screenplay writers, and throughout, I've seen some terrible, terrible scripts.

Three strikes? Maybe. But isn't there an old saying "don't judge a book by its cover"? You might like it if you read it.

I do appreciate my volunteers, and I'd gladly do the same for them, or anyone else upon request.
 

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Maybe you should just market it as a vampire epic? :)

Yep. I'm actually thinking of adapting them into book. The stories are so long that perhaps novel form would be a better medium for them. I'm eager to see what my volunteer readers (that I appreciate so mucho) have to say about the story.
 

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I have an old script that I wrote a few years back, it's the last installment in a three- part, though the next two parts are prequels. Dare I say, it's a vampire story. I know, I know.. those are so 1998. Humor me, please.

You can market anything as long as it has a fresh twist that intriques people. Look at Open Range and Twilight. One being a cowboy film (infinitely harder to sell than vampires) and the other being the latest and greatest though started in book form. There is a market for vampires, people just don't want the same old same old.


I have multiple problems with this story, and several times, I've retired it. I just keep going back to it, hoping that there's some chance to salvage it. So much work and planning went into it, as the three stories together are so closely woven in their premise and backstory, and I'm having a hard time just shelving it and moving on.

Bolding mine. This, I'm sorry to say, means nothing. You're putting more and more work into something that just isn't working. If you love the story but it has massive problems, take it back to the drawing board. If you take it back down to the basics, ignore the written, but look at the core you'll find the problems much easier and you might end up with a page one rewrite with only a few parts here and there of the original even making it in. As it stands it sounds like you've frankenstiened it by changing a piece here and a piece there rather than making it one cohesive piece. In other words, a total mess.


I think a lot of the problem came from the re-writes. It seemed like the more I re-wrote, the more sloppy things got. I would fill a plot hole, and then end up with another, so I'd fill it, only to be left with another gap. I've felt like there were too many characters, too much emphasis on the wrong characters, and some characters even lost their personality as a whole because of the re-writes.

One thing that would greatly help me is to have someone read it and help me pick it apart. I can't critique myself, no one can, and therefore, I need an outside opinion. Someone who doesn't care to read a script that is far too long (149 pages... yeah, I know. Very bad.), someone who can give me good advice on what works and what doesn't, and someone who isn't just going to say "well it's a big ole pile of poo, throw it away". If it's not worth salvaging, I want to know, but if at all possible, I would like to make this script better. I'm just at a point where I don't think I can do it without some help.

Would anyone care to help me?

Sounds like you have a couple of eager volunteers, some outside eyes might be just what you need. I won't volunteer because I'm pretty merciless when it comes to critiques and tell it how I see it without any cushion but with the intent of making the story better which ticks some people off and makes other people happy. Can't please everybody.

Good luck in your rewrites.