Is it just too long or am I impatient?

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I’ve been agent searching - novel urban fantasy, paranormal thriller - sending it off to fantasy agents. (I asked on the board and this was the agreement of the genre.)

My query spent two months in SYW query hell. Jim C was a great help to me as was Icecream Empress and others, thanks again.

I’ve sent to 57 agents and I‘ve heard back from a number of them. I’m getting rejections, but since the majority wanted two or three chapters I was counting that as querying with partial. There have been no requests for fulls.

I’m saving some for new re-writes of the query letter. Which means I have some left to change the book.

The book is 101K long. It is fantasy and 2/3 current day 1/3 WWII. I am happy with the way it reads at this length, but realistically speaking of course I can cut words out of it. When I finished it I cut 20K. It wasn’t meant to be two books and I knew that was too long. The fact that I could easily cut that much proves it. It wouldn’t be as easy to cut more, but it could definitely be done if it’s holding things back.

Is it too long or I’m just being impatient?

Thanks for your opinions and help.

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Nakhlasmoke, I started querying at the beginning of June, which I admit isn't so long ago. I suspect it's not being asked for a full that's bothering me. Actually, your question has really made me stop and see that it's only been a second in the eye of Querying.

Thanks, I'd rather realize I was being impatient than not.

Of course not having any world building in it made me concerned about the length.

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Not to bust your bubble or anything....

I have heard from this board that some have waited as long as a year to hear back. Sigh. I know that is not what you wanted to hear.

This is why they say to send them out and then get busy on your next book. (((((((((((YOU)))))))))))
 

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Um...how do you mean no world-building?

A good fantasy book doesn't do world-building by massive info dumps of flora/fauna/culture/religion. It does it by weaving in detail as naturally and subtly as any other book in another genre.
 

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Catuswendy - No bubble here, lost that a long time ago. I don’t mind waiting if I know I’m sending out something that is the right size to the right agents. I am getting rejections 40 out of 56, which is why I was wondering about the length.

I am working on the next book and trying another genre. (One of my favorite writers - Anne Perry said she wrote the Victorian detectives because they were the first of her books accepted. I see the logic.) Yes, I’ve finished the first draft of next book.

Nakhlasmoke - I think of world building as something that happens when you are creating a different world. I use the current time and WWII, which I think of as history not creating a world. To me this means large black telephone on the desk and teletype machine rather than computers and cellphones, which is why I didn’t think of it as world building and therefore getting the extra word count. Did I misunderstand that? Totally agree about info dumps, they belong in academia and non-fiction where they work really well.

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Nakhlasmoke - I think of world building as something that happens when you are creating a different world. I use the current time and WWII, which I think of as history not creating a world. To me this means large black telephone on the desk and teletype machine rather than computers and cellphones, which is why I didn’t think of it as world building and therefore getting the extra word count. Did I misunderstand that? Totally agree about info dumps, they belong in academia and non-fiction where they work really well.

In my lexicon, worldbuilding is something the writer does (mostly before beginning to write), not an element that can be included or excluded from the novel. In other words, it has no direct impact on word count. Indirectly, yes, the presentation of an alien/fantasy world does need more words than a real-world setting.

For your book to be fantasy, something must be different from the real world. Your worldbuilding should have included both working out what those differences are and thinking through the consequences of them. It's easy to get so focused on the consequences that drive your main story line that you forget to think about the side effects. (E.g., if everyone can teleport, why would highways exist? Or locks?)
 

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It doesn't seem crazy long at that length. What kind of feedback are you getting on the rejections (or are you getting "Thanks for submitting, doesn't meet our needs" kind of stuff)?
 

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Did you have betas look at the novel before you started querying?

Personally I don't send my queries out to that many agents at once (though I may be doing it wrong, LOL.) I send to a few, and when I start getting rejections back I send a few more--that way I can hone my query letter. If I'm getting a low or no percentage requests for a partial it may be the query letter that's at fault. I don't want my query letter killing my chance at finding an agent that might have loved my work if s/he could have gotten past the writing in the query letter.
 

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... I suspect it's not being asked for a full that's bothering me...

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I think having had several partial requests since June in phenomenal. Just hang in there. And good luck!

It's not having been asked for a partial that's bothering me. (My agent search is only a month long at this point.) But my query is just now emerging from SYW (that IceCreamEmpress is somethin' else, I tell ya ;) ), and I'm eager to see if my changes elicit any requests.
 
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