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As a fan of romance (mostly suspense and paranormals) I've noticed an alarming trend. Use of a "new" word. By that I mean one of those twenty-cent 'ers you get from your "Word a Day" calendar that you think is ok to use in your MS.

My example:
tattoo.

As in "Her heart beat a tattoo in her chest." Every time I see this line or variation thereof I giggle, then almost guffaw. Why? Because I used to drill people for a living and tattoos are painful hardcore things that don't belong on darling damsels in dresses, or distress either. I mean, I KNOW what the author wants to portray (heart beating rapidly) I'm not an idiot. Just the word choice seems antiquated and scented with eau de thesaurus. Not to mention it is used in approximately 20%(or possibly more) of the straight to paperback romance market right now.

Any chimers? Nay-sayers? Other over used words?

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I don't know that tattoos are "hardcore" type things, considering the popularity of them right now and the countless people with them.
I have a couple of tattoos and I'm not by any definition hardcore (well, I guess I'm hardcore about writing).
 

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The OP is talking about the military drill type of tattoo, not the skin kind. :)


Those two aren't the only meaning of "tattoo" though; it also means a strong rhythm, or a signal of some kind.


Personally I don't see that as a "new" usage. I have lots of older books--non-romances--that use it. Of course, I use it as well, and never thought it seemed antiquated or cliche and lame, so...
 

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I've posted about this sort of thing before:

Here...

and here.
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I've posted about this sort of thing before:

Here...

and here.
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LOL! You know, after reading the second post some months ago, I've actually found myself avoiding the whole "tucking strand of hair" thing from most of my writing. I imagine Gillhoughly standing over my shoulder and twitching if I do put one in and think to myself, "Wait! Don't shred it yet! She just got off the back of the hero's motorcycle. Her hair really is messed up!" ;)

The word that gets me everytime I see it is mewl. "She mewled her contentment." I always get the impression the heroine is meowing like a baby kitten and that blows the whole intimate scene for me. Sorry, that's just my little pet peeve.
 
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I don't notice words across the wide spectrum of romance, so much as one particular author reusing several words or a phrase over and over again.
LKH: "pulse was like hard red candy blah..."
JD Robb: "Sharp, angular features." "The music of Ireland was in his voice..."
There are several others, but those two stuck out to me each and every single time I read them.
 

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I'm with Witty; not so much words, but phrases, or in my case: entire passages! I'll not name the million dollar author, since she's not here to defend herself, but for someone so talented in the paranormal romance genre, gads but doesn't she take into consideration that her readers aren't dense??? Every.bloody.chapter. repeats how certain characters live a life of doom, and will die if they don't find their one-true-mate. I mean, five to six pages will be taken up for this mantra, nearly per chapter.

Why?

I get it. Really. Swear. Cross mi' heart! Now, give me more story!!! I don't want an encore, every chapter, of information you've already drilled into me!!

But, BUT, it's taught me what NOT to do in my own writing, so for that, I'm grateful.
 

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Gah. I know exactly which lady you are speaking of there Inky, and I agree. I understand revisiting important details so that new readers understand where you are, but do you really think any readers are new in chapter 14? Seriously? At that point, even the characters seem tired of it.
 

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It's what you get when you have 400 pages to fill with 10 pages worth of plot.

I know a lot of writers who have done (and do!) that sort of thing. Some are just better at getting away with it than others.
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As for that particular writer? She's done some things that I question (and would never do in my books), but it's her world and she'll do whatever she likes--which is her right.

Fans of her early books aren't going to get that first thrill back again, ever; she's stated as much on her blog. Might as well shrug and move on to other writers.

As for me, if I don't like a show, I change the channel and don't go back. MST3King isn't as entertaining as it once was.
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I've posted about this sort of thing before:

Here...

and here.
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paper shredder *G* I liked that visual.

Seriously though, I didn't know the hair bit had become clichéd. Hair is mentioned in at least one of the "on writing" books I own as a psychological symbol that "conveys a strong sexual force" (Stein On Writing 1995, p182) on the same page he asserts that "most men find it disquieting or repulsive to imagine a woman bald or losing her hair."

The act of tucking hair back is an excuse to initiate contact which then leads... to more contact. So, no I'm not sold that that is a horrific faux pas. Because that is what romance novels do best. The act too, sends a message out that the woman is trusting the man. I mean really...what woman lets a man (oops, heterosexual man) straighten her hair? (Sorry, overgeneralizing for a point.)

The repetition of lines/phrases that Inky and Witty brought up is a biggie though. There is more than one book where "he snarled" and "golden skin" and "hunger building deep inside" were whipped to death and back. It's like copying yourself.

Perhaps we are holding the candle of perfection a bit too close.
 

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I have two authors who both hit upon the same annoying (to me) turn of phrase: describing characters who get angry by saying, "His hands fisted." Leaving aside my own squeamishness about the connotations of "to fist" as a verb, these writers were using the line far too frequently to bear.
 

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My hair-tucking had to do with heroines committing the clumsy descriptive device, but I like how you have the hero doing that as an act of tenderness. I've seen that too many times, though!

In the days when I had 80's Big Hair, I never had a guy try it on me, mostly because I'd spent a lot of time getting my hair to look right, and it was held firmly in place by a lot of White Rain Unscented. He'd have just sliced up his fingers!

Style considerations aside, guys are usually more interested in feeling up other areas on a woman besides her hair!
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Not to share TMI, but I rather prefer it as well!

For the rest, it can be difficult to write a good nookie scene. The best writers are not afraid to "get naked" on the page and reveal their own feelings instead of merely writing about actions.

Last year I had a very pivotal to the plot nookie scene to write. It took three weeks to "work up" to it. The MC was in a VERY complicated emotional place, and what should have been a physical release for him turned into a scary emotional turning point. He comes to see himself differently afterwards. I had a series of Post It notes on the desk so I could include all the feelings he would be experiencing.

It worked out well, and he had a different emotional color to him afterward. It was a very subtle color, but I liked writing it, and it influenced his later actions.

The scene, while hot, doesn't have much mention of body parts, nor is it even remotely a "Tab A into Slot B, shake well, have a cigarette" kind of scene. I can spot those a mile off and just skip reading them. Those are a terrible bore! (Writer looks at page count: "Hm, p. 72, time for a nookie-break, next one on p. 81, then I start dinner.)

I prefer scenes where the characters are engaging me emotionally, and that absolutely should be show not tell. Telling the reader a guy is growling with passion (or grunting, snarling, or groaning like a lowland gorilla in heat) is a turn off. Showing the reader his emotions is much better.

The BEST scene of passion I ever read wasn't even a nookie scene. I was in the middle of Proof, by Dick Francis. The MC is a grieving widower in great emotional pain. There's one line, just ONE line, where he walks past the bedroom where "my wife and I made love" is so wistful, so full of pain that I had to stop reading and have a good blub. That one line gave me an instant mental montage of all the joys he and his wife shared in their private world--gone now.

Francis built up to that line throughout the book. With every mention of grief, the hero's self-doubts, the stress put on him by the mystery, and brushes with death, I was so caught up that I felt he was a friend in pain and I had to commiserate.

Of course, Dick Francis writes some very wonderful love scenes and certainly I learned a lot from him. His heroes are singularly free of grunting and groaning and are wholly focused on the lady. He feels lucky to be with her, he makes it fun! Even when she comes with emotional baggage, he's patient, waiting until she's worked things through and is ready to commit, because she's worth it. Then he makes it worth her while.

And through all the books he's written, it's clear that the writer was very, VERY much in love with his wife.

Wow.
 

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Of course, Dick Francis writes some very wonderful love scenes and certainly I learned a lot from him.

Isn't he the horse story guy? :Wha:

(I've only ever read one novel of his, and it was good, but I seem to remember that all his books have horses on the covers, don't they? So I'm getting a very peculiar - and disturbing - mental image right now. :D)
 

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As for my contribution - this one's cropped up a lot lately and bugs me no end:

"Low-hanging fruit."

One, I'm not even quite sure what it means. Oh, I know how it's used and all - I just don't see what that context has to do with fruit.

Two, I'm hearing it everywhere, endlessly. Even on NPR now, normally a safe haven from the overused and tired phrases of the day.
 

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The BEST scene of passion I ever read wasn't even a nookie scene. I was in the middle of Proof, by Dick Francis.

And through all the books he's written, it's clear that the writer was very, VERY much in love with his wife.

Wow.

Dick Francis is a master at conveying character and emotion with very little description. Every. Word. Counts. It's just one of the things I absolutely love about the man. Have you read, A Jockey's Life?

Regarding the Tab A into Slot B type of sex/love scenes~ it's one of the things that has turned me away from reading romances. So many writers are concerned with re-inventing the wheel when it somes to sex. And while I like my sex scenes hot, thank you very much, it's not so much what the participants are doing (and how) that should be the focus; but the why. Show me how this encounter is going to change things; let me see what it's costing the characters to be naked and vulnerable with each other. Make me care. I think it's what's been missing in romance, of late.
 

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Isn't he the horse story guy? :Wha:

(I've only ever read one novel of his, and it was good, but I seem to remember that all his books have horses on the covers, don't they? So I'm getting a very peculiar - and disturbing - mental image right now. :D)

Dick Francis was a former flat and steeplechase jockey in England (he was the Queen's jockey so that tells you his measure of success in the sport). He began his writing career as a sportswriter but his storytelling skills led him in a different direction. While many if not most of his stories have horses and horse racing as a background, not all do. Some of his stories without a horse racing connection are, PROOF and WILD HORSES. There are several others, but the titles escape me right now.
 

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As for my contribution - this one's cropped up a lot lately and bugs me no end:

"Low-hanging fruit."

One, I'm not even quite sure what it means. Oh, I know how it's used and all - I just don't see what that context has to do with fruit.

Two, I'm hearing it everywhere, endlessly. Even on NPR now, normally a safe haven from the overused and tired phrases of the day.
Would you kick me if I wrote: 'His grapes of wrath'???

Okay...really...I TRIED to keep a straight face :ROFL: when typing that :ROFL: sometimes, I just kill myself!
 

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Dick Francis is a master at conveying character and emotion with very little description. Every. Word. Counts. It's just one of the things I absolutely love about the man. Have you read, A Jockey's Life?

Regarding the Tab A into Slot B type of sex/love scenes~ it's one of the things that has turned me away from reading romances. So many writers are concerned with re-inventing the wheel when it somes to sex. And while I like my sex scenes hot, thank you very much, it's not so much what the participants are doing (and how) that should be the focus; but the why. Show me how this encounter is going to change things; let me see what it's costing the characters to be naked and vulnerable with each other. Make me care. I think it's what's been missing in romance, of late.
I like that Lynn Kurland leaves it to your imagination. And she does it in a way that you don't feel like you lost a scene, but rather, you're right there as the characters build up to the climactic moment & then the aftermath of 'the act'....ye' just don't have to worry 'bout hand sanitizer or mouth wash...or even the perverbial cigerette. Then again, Ms. Kurland can supply alot of plot & doesn't need 'fillers'.

Now, as for an author who seems to write in pure verb, Harlan Coben. I swear that man makes every.single.word.count!
*drops head onto desk*
Will I ever succeed with such fierce competition???
 

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I like that Lynn Kurland leaves it to your imagination. And she does it in a way that you don't feel like you lost a scene, but rather, you're right there as the characters build up to the climactic moment & then the aftermath of 'the act'....ye' just don't have to worry 'bout hand sanitizer or mouth wash...or even the perverbial cigerette. Then again, Ms. Kurland can supply alot of plot & doesn't need 'fillers'.

Now, as for an author who seems to write in pure verb, Harlan Coben. I swear that man makes every.single.word.count!
*drops head onto desk*
Will I ever succeed with such fierce competition???

speaking of Harlan Coben...he is one of my favorite writers. Just got his newest. Got about 2/3 the way through it and had to put it down. It just wandered here and there and everywhere, and then got boring. Damn! I hate that. especially when it's a favorite writer!
 
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Are you talking 'bout Hold Tight? I just received it, but haven't opened it yet, as I'm reading all the paranormal romances first....I'm a diehard.

That bad, eh? I kinda had a feeling, being the subject material he picked. I love his Bolitar (sp?) series...that Win...he's just the best *ducks...looks around...makes sure psycho rich boy isn't coming at me for daring such a compliment...*
Looks like I'm safe.
*downs Yoohoo*
 

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D,
Are you talking 'bout Hold Tight? I just received it, but haven't opened it yet, as I'm reading all the paranormal romances first....I'm a diehard.

That bad, eh? I kinda had a feeling, being the subject material he picked. I love his Bolitar (sp?) series...that Win...he's just the best *ducks...looks around...makes sure psycho rich boy isn't coming at me for daring such a compliment...*
Looks like I'm safe.
*downs Yoohoo*

Yeah, 'Hold Tight' is what I'm talking about. The second half doesn't even seem like the same novel as the 1st half. I usually have 2-3 going at once, so I thought I got them mixed up (which I don't do) but that wasn't it.
I was pissed, because I've been scouring the new releases just waiting for another one from him.

The SAME thing had just happened to me with Grishams latest too. It just wasn't very compelling. His I did read through to the end though, although I correctly predicted what would happen with the ending within the first 1/3 of the book.
 

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I ceased reading Grisham for the same reason. It's almost like, 'I've become a famous, well payed author to the point of never having to work again--so why should I?'

If you're lucky enough to make it big...every book should have as much attention paid to detail and plot as your first when you were trying to break into the business!!!

Have you tried Kathy Reichs? I normally don't do med thrillers, but she's very good--don't go by that Bones crap show on t.v.
Though out of sync, start with her Death Voyage (?)....great opening sentence that will hook you.
 

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Bunches of people were down on Clancy for farming out his work, but maybe he got tired of it and that way at least there are more of his novels for those who want them. It's possible the same thing is happening with Grisham only he hasn't realized it yet.

Just saying maybe.

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Stlight: you may be correct--I didn't know authors did this...is this why James Patterson always has another author's name tied to his own with his detective series? Hmmmmm...interesting; however, an author should be checking through the work to make sure it's still the quality that gave him his 'name' to begin with.

Then again, this is a matter of opinion as some readers may think Grisham is still da' bomb (ha! 2nd time I've been able to use that expression....now I've just gotta figure out a way to use: Hey, you look pimpin' :ROFL:)!
 

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Tattoo means a drum beat or bugle call in the British military.

From T.S. Eliot's Old Gumbie Cat:
Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats:

But when the day's hustle and bustle is done,
Then the Gumbie Cat's work is but hardly begun.
She thinks that the cockroaches just need employment,
So she's formed, from that lot of disorderly louts,
A troop of well-disciplined helpful boy-scouts,
With a purpose in life and a good deed to do -
And she's even created a Beetles' Tattoo.
 
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