Eating your ice cream cone from the bottom (or, sudden changes in process)

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A. J. Luxton

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So, it's been a while -- I've lurked, just haven't posted in almost two years. My writing's going pretty well. I've completed two novels so far. One is your standard "under-the-bed book", aka "desk drawer book", aka "I would have to spend enough time re-writing this that I might as well just write a better one"; the second has just been picked up by a reputable agent; and now I'm embarking on a third, the ideas for which have been floating around in my head for about six months now. I've been world-building in the form of scrap notes and writing small segments of the beginning. And, of course, now that I've got an agent, I want to go full speed ahead.

The weirdness I'm having is that it wants to take shape exactly backwards from how my others have.

Previously I'd start with a concept, get characters to form around the concept and get plot to form around the characters: I'd put together a very rough external plot summary and then just write as I went, and the micro-plot would fill in spontaneously -- sort of the way Raymond Chandler described his process, not knowing whodunnit until you get there.

This one has started with characters and tantalizing, dreamlike bits of world detail. I have a great feeling about it; like it represents a certain maturation of where I'm going with all this writing stuff. I'm in love with my characters. It's deep-brain material for me instead of trope play. But at the same time I'm not sure how to structure my work. I'm having lots of fun worldbuilding, but my actual narrative currently consists of a bunch of little disordered scraps and paragraphs of scene.

I have pictures in my mind of the relationships and scenes at the heart of the book, and a sense of the ending, but not nearly as much sense of the concrete specifics of how they got there.

The outlining techniques from the Uncle Jim thread are doing me some good. But I'm mainly curious to hear from a range of other writers. Has anyone had this sort of flip-flop in their creative direction? How did it go for you?

And finally, what are some of your techniques for getting a clear sight on the beginning when you know the end?
 

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I started one WIP by just feeling like writing one morning, and made it about 25,000 words before I stopped "feeling" like it. This one is much more structured. I think different stories need to be told different ways. Recently, someone posted a link to Jim Butcher's outline style as he details in a blog post. Maybe that would help you piece together those scenes and snippets by visually mapping them out.
Myself, I am a great lover of post-it notes right now. lol. I wrote each scene, just a sentence or two, on a note and then played with their order until they made better sense. Then I used a different kind of post-it note or sticker to signify where there was an obvious plot hole between scenes. Pretty much it looks like
Scene A > B > C > Big hole > G > H > small hole > J > etc...
Now I just have to take a hard look at what has to happen to take my characters from C to G and all those other little holes, and then write it.
Heh. "Just" write it. I am so funny sometimes.
Good Luck!
 

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AJ...I know what you mean. Quite often, my novels start with a premise, or a proposition, and then I spend quite some time flip-flopping between various ways to tell the story. Quite often I've found writing the first few chapters help me decide which way to go....which can mean scrapping those chapters sometimes.

I think, 10k words would be enough for you to realise if the way you're telling it is right. And if you bail out...it's not too much to junk.
 

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AJ, isn't this the greatest thing about writing? You can start from any point, with any concept, and you're free to work backward or forward from that point in your creative imagination.

Like you, I've had both the starting and ending concepts in play before writing. I think either way is a discovery process. Most of my books have been front-to-back, with the ending as much a mystery to me as to the reader. But one started with, of all things, the resolution. Not the climax, the resolution. Working backward from that premise was, for me, just as arduous as the other way because of all the possible paths that could have taken the character there and the possible consequences to them along the way.

I think the best way to go about it is what Garpy said, go trial and error for maybe 10,000 words so that you don't invest too much in an approach that doesn't work.

However, having started at the ending, you might keep jumping into various middle plot points to see how they might feed into that ending and how well or poorly they build tension and convey the plot. Just a thought.

I hope when this project is done you tell us the process you finally work out and how it progressed.
 

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Hmm! I didn't think of setting up the resolution.

The stuff I have clearly in my mind consists of Main Middle Event 1, the end-of-first-act thing that means no turning back for the characters, as someone was talking about in the other thread... and the climax, at least of the interpersonal arc.

I think one of the oddities I'm dealing with is that the external plot is basically heroic (find the macguffin, save the day) and the interpersonal arc is semi-tragic. Hmm, I suppose that's not so odd, now that I think of it.

Another thing adding to the difference is that my previous long fiction has been urban fantasy -- take modern world, melt with hairdryer, re-shape with round-nose pliers, add some collage -- and this one is an actual bona-fide otherworld, with whole continents and languages and magic and industrialization to sort out... so I suppose the "start from point X and plow forth in any direction" is not quite so possible; I can't use my old props bin or grab extras from Central Casting.

I think the reason I'm wringing my hands over this one is that I'm already too attached to want to risk bailing out. Of course there's always a risk. I think I'm probably going to find a plan of attack, whatever that plan is, by doing what I'm doing now: outlining, notecarding, sketching out material for the idea drawer.

I'm going to think over the resolution, and maybe try to crack it. This could be really good for me as a writer, as I usually find getting past the climax to the tie-up is the most cumbersome part of any book, and writing it first might get me doing something I've never done before...
 
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