Your old writing vs your new writing

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There have been many comments in many threads from writers comparing their first attempts at writing years ago to what they write now. I'm not sure which forum is the right one for this, but how about putting up some examples of old vs new for forum members to compare? Something like 1 chapter from years ago and one from last or current project? Might take some humble pie in cases but should be helpful and/or encouraging to many. I don't think its a SYW type thing. We probably aren't looking for feedback on stuff we already find hopeless from years ago. We just want to reveal one thing. Time and practice brings improvement, or not.

I going with the Novel Writing forum as this is where the past vs present seams to be most prevelant. And I'll even offer up my own past vs present as a human sacrifice to the cause. Remeber. No edit, review etc. needed. Just one question. Better now or worse?

Here is a selected few lines from my very first novel vanity published in 1981. It is exactly as it appeared despite my intense desire to remove the many mistakes. It is followed by a selected few lines from my latest manuscript.

Niki woke up slowly then noticed Krazek sucking quietly on a food packet.

“What happened? Ooooh, my head is killing me,” Niki said.

“Welcome back. I was very worried about you. You passed out after plugging in my refill line. I didn’t wake up for a few minutes apparently and you were nearly gone,” Krazek said quietly.

“How long have I been out?”

“About eleven hours,” Krazek answered.

“Ugh. You have slept also then?” Niki said.

“Yes. I just woke up. Here, eat up. We will need all our energy for this trip,” Krazek said, handing a couple of food packets to Niki.

Niki leaned toward Krazek to get the packets then quickly settled back into his seat with a moan.

“Go easy for awhile. You are lucky to be here at all.”

And now, back to the present.

Apollo only looked the size of a sparrow from the top of the cliff but Trik could still see her young feathers were catching enough air to slow her fall and give her some control of her direction as she tilted from side to side. But still she fell quickly, gliding into the forest and out of sight before they saw her reach the ground.

“Did she make it?” Ashley said.

“I don’t know. I hope she didn’t hit a tree or something,” Gerry said.

“She’ll come back to look for us if she’s okay,” Trik said.

The three kids sat quietly staring at the spot where Apollo had disappeared into the forest, praying to get a glimpse of her. Several minutes passed with no sign of motion.

“This isn’t good,” Trik said then started to pull the bucket up quickly.

“Stop! Look!” Ashley said pointing down into the ravine.

Trik and Gerry leaned over and spotted a tiny creature walking up to the ravine wall right under the bucket.

“Is it Apollo?” Gerry said.

“It has to be,” Trik said.

Suddenly the creature ran toward the ravine wall and up it as far as it could before the loose dirt gave way under its claws and it slid back down to the bottom.

“That’s Apollo! She’s trying to get back to us!” Trik said as the creature made another run at the wall then slid down again.

Over and over again Apollo tried to climb the steep dirt wall separating her from the person who had cared for her since her birth. Over and over again she failed. Tears were running out of Trik’s eyes as he fought to hold back sobs.

“STOP IT!” he yelled as loud as he could.

Apollo stopped and stared up at them, exhausted. Suddenly her head snapped around to stare into the forest. A moment later she sprinted out of sight under the bushes. Gerry reached out and took the twine from Trik to pull the bucket the rest of the way up. Ashley rubbed her hand across his back as he wiped the tears off his face. They all just sat and stared quietly into the forest for several minutes.
 
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You might want to reconsider posting this content here. It's not password-protected. Google will find it and give your hard work away to just about everyone. How about posting this in SYW?
 

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I started off my first book attempt (as a teenager) with a very detailed description of my main character, intending to make the reader see exactly what I saw.

In my current WIP, my description of the MC's appearance is just a grey robe. I trust the reader to fill in the blanks appropriately based on context and behavior, and if something doesn't fit later, there will be little emotional objection to modifying the mental image.
 

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My beginning efforts are nothing but sheer embarrassment when I think of them. Just flippin' awful.
 

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I can copy-paste more of these "wonderful" gigantic paragraphs. I'm not worried about anybody finding them with Google and stealing my hard work.
 

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I started writing a couple years ago and still have the WIP. It's a good story (IMHO) so I'm picking away at it. I had to make a rule for myself though: no going back and fixing what's wrong with the beginning. I can almost see the points in time where I learned about things like POV, passive voice, and action/reaction.

It'll be frustrating as all hell to edit, but at least I can see the improvement.

And really, SPM, you didn't actually expect your 11 or 12 year old self to be coming up with War and Peace did you??
 

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And really, SPM, you didn't actually expect your 11 or 12 year old self to be coming up with War and Peace did you??
Did I think I could write War and Peace when I was that age? You bet!

Today, it's hilarious looking back. Hilarious...ly bad :D
 

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I've definitely improved from my childhood writing as well as from my first completed novel. I will not post some of the sucky stuff here though. Mostly b/c, sadly, I don't have stuff i wrote as a kid! The closest I have at home is from a project in AP History - that I got a 98% on I might add!
 

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My mother threw out all my early manuscripts, including the better part of a novel about George Sand. Grrrr.
 

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My old stuff is written in pencil in some notebooks at home (I'm at work).

BUT, here's what I can say about it.

Anything before high school = suck

In high school = near flawless... and this is AFTER I've become more wisened to the ways of writing (viewpoint of choice was 3rd person)

Now = not flawless, but not too bad. viewpoint of choice is now 1st person, and it took me a while to get used to.
 

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The first story I wrote that wasn't an assignment was fanfiction. When I look back at it now, I cringe. Not because the plot was particularly bad, but because I was so brief. My story lacked a lot of descriptive detail, which is probably why the word count was so low. I'm still jealous of the guy who managed a 44,000 word piece of fanfiction (that's almost novel length) in the same universe. I hope he'll end up writing original novels some day - I'd read them in an instant.

Nowadays, I'm (ab)using my brevity by writing flash fiction and I'm getting a lot better at including description where it's needed.
 

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So uh guys?

Interesting idea. But.
This is not the right place to post entire chapters. Or probably even entire paragraphs. You're not going to get participation from a lot of people, both because many of us don't want to put up large chunks in a non-password-protected area, and because Novels isn't where most people want to read that much of someone else's prose.

So I'd recommend cutting down, if you want to participate, to 3 sentences or so of old stuff vs new stuff.

And I'd also recommend that those of you who have posted large chunks go in and edit your posts. Because everything else aside, coming into a thread with an initial post that's almost 8000 words long is pretty offputting!
 

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You're really asking...? .....You're brave, scifi97. Very brave.


From my old stuff (feel free to wince.): I doubted they "just wanna talk." People who "just wanna talk" don't hide out in rubbish heaps with swords and knives.

New stuff (possible improvement? :D): It all started as an almost-painful tingling in his fingers and toes, a tingling that quickly spread throughout his body...


And so is my contribution :tongue
 

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Scifi97 said:
No edit, review etc. needed. Just one question. Better now or worse?

Better, I think. You have a lot better handle on dialogue tags and adverbs now, methinks. But it's interesting; in the new excerpt you have quite a few run-on sentances that you didn't have in the old excerpt.

It's a neat idea. I think I might play when I have more time ;)

-Feathers
 

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Depends on what you mean when you inquire about our "old writing". I've been writing little stories since I was... seven? Eight? Naturally, those are horrific, as I had yet to learn the rules of the road. When I decided that I really wanted to pursue writing, I was about sixteen. Now those stories are something to chuckle at.
 

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The thing that scares me most is that fact that whatever I've written, I've always thought was really good at the time. I always felt, with one or two heavy revisions just for continuity and flow, I would have an absolutely flawless masterpiece.

But now, I look back on those revised "masterpieces" and they're absolute drivel. It scares me to think the stuff I'm writing now, the stuff I am actual looking to sell someday, will be just that.
 

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This whole thread makes me wonder what Christopher Paolini will say 10 years from now looking back on Eragon (Yet I'll still read books 3 and 4. Funny, no?).

As for myself, I'd say I'm probably writing what will one day be my "old stuff." Since I like this story so much though, I'll put it away somewhere to fix when I'm ready to do the "good stuff."
 

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Very interesting idea for a thread. I haven't gone back to read my really old stuff in - well, never. So, this little detour down memory lane has been interesting.

Here's the first few sentences from the first novel I ever completed (and subsequently self-published, waaaay back when no one knew what POD stood for, and the starry-eyed newb that I was thought paying $400 to get a book published was a "good deal"):

Jenna was growing more frustrated by the minute with the woman across the desk, who looked at her as if she’d just crawled out from under a rock.

“Miss Parker,” the woman said, in a tone that suggested she might have been speaking to a stubborn child. “We just don’t give credit to anyone who walks in off the streets. You must have stability, and references.”


Ouch. Don't worry - it gets worse (I managed to read the first chapter, but my eyes are bleeding now). It was supposed to be a romance (I've since discovered that romance isn't my genre to write, though I love reading it). Not much of the abysmal plot is revealed here, but there is a glimpse of my excessive reliance on passive voice and vastly over-the-top melodrama.

And these are the first few sentences from my new WIP, which I just started a week or so ago:

Jesus stared down at Paul from the wall in his supervisor’s office, his painted and benevolent gaze filled with condemnation.

“Well, Paul?” Lynette drummed short, French-manicured fingernails on the folder in front of her. “I’m waiting for an explanation here. I don’t see how telling a thirteen-year-old girl to attack and disfigure her father—”

“That’s not what I said.” Paul shoved both hands in his pockets, his own rough nails digging hard into his palms.


I do find it interesting that both samples start out with a heated conversation. Of course, they're too short to get a real sense of how I've evolved over *cough* *mutter* years, but with both manuscripts open here, I can see a huge difference.

*pats self on back*

Thank you, scifi97, for this excruciating stroll down the dusty halls of my apprenticeship. :D
 

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The thing that scares me most is that fact that whatever I've written, I've always thought was really good at the time. I always felt, with one or two heavy revisions just for continuity and flow, I would have an absolutely flawless masterpiece.

But now, I look back on those revised "masterpieces" and they're absolute drivel. It scares me to think the stuff I'm writing now, the stuff I am actual looking to sell someday, will be just that.

That shouldn't scare you at all. It just means that at the time you wrote the piece, it was the best you could write, and now you've learned more. If you queried one hundred published authors who were on their third or fourth or fifth books and asked them what they thought of their first book, I bet almost all of them would admit they could have done much better on it with the knowledge they have now.

So keep writing, keep pushing each bit of prose to your limit, then work on pushing it past that limit. The day you stop growing is the day you've stopped learning.


:)

-Michelle
 

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Oh, I've seen a definite improvement. It physically hurts me to read my first novel.

First book: All around Dinah, the trees were crisply garbed in gold and occasional splashes of red. The wind smelled of smoke, and the afternoon was bright and cloudless.

Sixth book: There's going to be a burning down on Lander's common.
Burning days don't come along often. Here in the Low-walk with all of us scrabbling in the filth - picking over the rubbish the lams throw out from their fancy houses - well it's a bit of entertainment.
 

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My mother threw out all my early manuscripts, including the better part of a novel about George Sand. Grrrr.
Mine too! what's with mothers? I had a great series about a girl and her horse- completely illistrated too! I had it bound in a three ring binder and was very proud of it- went looking for it years later and she told me she threw it out- still haven't forgiven her-
 
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