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maestrowork

Re: On the High Prices of PA books

Let's face it, I will not pay $25 for a paperback of an unknown author.
 

James D Macdonald

Re: On the High Prices of PA books

Lots of folks won't pay $25 for a hardcover by an author they know and like.
 

Whachawant

Re: On the High Prices of PA books

Well, based on PA's other books on Amazon, a 420 pager should run either 24.95 or 29.95 (they're not all that consistent).
They have one book from '01 that's 992 pages and costs $54.95
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The only time I pay that much for a book is if its for a reference manual.... and guaranteed its not from P.A.
 

DeePower

Does this paragraph mean no more 49 copies?

I was looking at the PublishAmerica settlement agreement (for reversion of rights back to the author). Does section number 2 mean that PA can't demand payment for 49 copies (or any number for that matter)?

2. Transfer of Publication Rights and Release of Publication Obligations.

In consideration of the agreements and covenants contained herein, the Publishing Contract is deemed terminated and of no further force or effect.

Dee
www.BrianHillAndDeePower.com
 

James D Macdonald

Re: Does this paragraph mean no more 49 copies?

Ask your lawyer.
 

DeePower

I wasn't asking for me.

Our attorney has revised the PA termination agreement and sent it back to PA. The revision makes it clear what happens to any "inventory."

I asked because a question came up on a private discussion forum.


Dee
 

DeePower

The authors aren't forced to buy copies of their books

Hot off the email:
Original Message --------

Subject: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp The Force of Ten Thousand
Date: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp Thu, 18 Nov 2004 14:52:28 -0500
From: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp PublishAmerica Author Support Team <[email protected]>
Reply-To: &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp &nbsp <[email protected]>

Dear author,

Again, there is healthy growth news to share with you. Together with your peers at PublishAmerica, you now form a force of more than ten thousand writers! Last month, our 10,000th author signed a book contract with PublishAmerica.

The basis of this continued success story is authors such as yourself. It is your enthusiasm, your creativity, your glow, and your energy that spawn the drive in others to want to be like you. It is the thousands of newspaper interviews and book reviews, the hundreds of thousands of words of mouth that your books have sparked. You have enabled us to send out more than one million book announcements to people of all walks of life, and each day we are selling thousands of books. That is the incredible PublishAmerica story that you and your fellow PA authors have brought forth.

Needless to say, such numbers affect the size of our staff enormously. We have gone through enormous growth in the past year, to the point where we needed to relocate to a considerably larger facility. Currently we are finalizing the moving of our entire staff into a big and beautiful four-story historical building in the heart of our hometown, where we have more than double the office space that we had. You may expect to see photos of our new environment on our website soon!

Reason to celebrate? We think so, and therefore we are discounting all of our titles for ten thousand school libraries around the country. And as always, when we offer such special deals to vendors or libraries, we want to include our own authors as well.

It is good to remind you that one of the other reasons of PublishAmerica's success is that no author is under any obligation, pressure or requirement to ever purchase their own books, at any time, in any way. We are a traditional publisher. We don't want our authors' money, we want their books. Therefore, authors who do wish to obtain copies of their own book, do so because they choose to.

So, to those of you who fall in that category, with the upcoming holiday season in mind, we offer the following special deal:

authors who need
between 25-50 books: 40 pct discount
between 51-100 books: 45 pct discount
between 101-200 books: 50 pct discount
201 or more books: 55 pct discount

This offer expires November 30, full-color books are excluded. Orders by phone only, at 301-695-1707.

Thank you, and have a happy Thanksgiving.
 

James D Macdonald

Re: The authors aren't forced to buy copies of their books

It is good to remind you that one of the other reasons of PublishAmerica's success is that no author is under any obligation, pressure or requirement to ever purchase their own books, at any time, in any way. We are a traditional publisher. We don't want our authors' money, we want their books. Therefore, authors who do wish to obtain copies of their own book, do so because they choose to.

That's like Honest Al's Used Car Emporium (Bad credit? No credit? No problem!) claiming in an ad that "no one is under any obligation, pressure or requirement to ever purchase a car, at any time, in any way.Therefore, people who do wish to obtain a car, do so because they choose to." Any doubt that that would still count as an advertisement, if (for example) someone wanted question whether false advertising was involved.

What a load of disingenuous bull-pucky! Under no pressure, they say, in the middle of a high-pressure pitch to buy your own books.

Hurry, hurry, hurry! Operators are standing by! Offer expires soon!

We were expecting a pitch to buy your own books after the New York Times Ad pitch ran its course (no one was going to buy a bunch of books in November to get into the December ad because there isn't going to be one), and here it is.

Predictable, like clockwork, PA tries to sell its books to their own authors.

Ask yourself this: Why would a "traditional publisher" spend all this time and trouble advertising their books to their own authors? None of the traditional publishers I've dealt with have ever done anything like this.

If you don't want the authors' money, PA, why are you sending advertising to them to induce them to give you cash? Why aren't you out selling books? It's the Christmas Season, for Pete's sake! What's the matter with you?

(Oh, and I'd be really interested in hearing if any school libraries, anywhere, buy any of your books based on your efforts -- rather than your individual authors' efforts.)

Did you try sending letters to all the schools in America, telling them about this offer?

No, I didn't think so.

Friggin' 40% off. That's the minimum a library woud expect from any publisher, any day of the week, any month of the year. What sort of special deal is that? And is November a big month for school book-buying? Get real.
 

Risseybug

Re: The authors aren't forced to buy copies of their books

That letter smacked of effort. They work so hard to tell their authors how happy, how wonderful, how much they are loved. Shouldn't they be putting that effort into selling books instead of propaganda to tell their authors how happy they are?


Someone said it, and it bears repeating. If you go to a publishers webpage, and the home page is not dedicated to selling books (with 'Submission Guidelines' in small print somewhere) then RUN AWAY! If all they're selling is the author, not the public, they are in no way a traditional publisher!

Jim - we could get 140 people to donate $5, that might be more do-able at this time of year. $10 is a lot to someone like me. Heck, $10 barely fills my gas tank to half anymore.
 

James D Macdonald

Does anyone remember

The PA website's meta tags?

They've changed 'em.

Used to be:

"description" content="PublishAmerica, Inc., a traditional publisher, accepting and publishing manuscripts and books at NO CHARGE to the author. Royalties paid to writers, books sold in stores. Manuscript submissions by mail and online"

"keywords" content="writers, publishers, agents, literary agents, authors, author, writer, publisher, publishing, writing, xlibris, publishing house, publishing company, publishing companies, royalties, print?on?demand, print on demand, print?on?demand publishing, print on demand publishing, PublishAmerica, Publish America, publishamerica, publish america, AmErica House, america house, America House, publish America, print, printing, book, books, book publishing, publishing service, self-publish, self-publishing, iUniverse, iuniverse, xlibris, self publishing, free publishing, cheap publishing, manuscript, manuscript submission, royalty publisher, royalty publishing, ebooks, on-demand publishing, small press, online publishing, publishing online, book publisher, book publishers, book printing, publishing resource, writer resource, author resource, writers community, authors community, publishing professional, traditional publisher, traditional publishing, writing talent, creative talent, unpublished author, un-published author, unpublished writer, un-published writer, publishing contract"

(Thank you, Wayback Machine!)

Well, those tags now read:

"description" content="Book Publishers - Book Publishing or Publish a Novel at Publish America Today."

"keywords" content="book publishers,book publishing,publish a novel,publisher"



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I do believe that's our work, here, bringing their misleading tags to the attention of the authorities that caused 'em to make the change.
 

DaveKuzminski

Re: Does anyone remember

Because some features are locking up or otherwise not operating properly, it may be time to let the longest topics sink while we switch to another for maintaining the information flow on subjects that need to be kept in the public eye.
 

maestrowork

Re: Does anyone remember

This is from smallpress.typepad.com:


Xlibris has paid out $1 million in royalties to some 9,000 authors since the company was founded in 1997. (About $111 each.)
--Publishers Weekly, March 17, 2003.

I wonder what PA's figures are.
 

DaveKuzminski

Re: Does anyone remember

Maybe they'll match Xlibris by giving all their authors $111.00? Of course, the authors will have to figure out how to divide all of that among themselves. ;)
 

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49 copies from PA

*pinging for search engine*

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James D. Macdonald said:
Let's not forget popper20 and publishamerica sockpuppets. Who is ani-michelle, anyway?
Ani-Michelle is a PA author -- but you knew that already. Are the links here new to you?