Only About 3.5 Percent of Americans Care About Democracy

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This study’s findings may explain why Trump’s support is so “sticky”. It may not be that it’s a cult so much as it says something fundamental about all of us?

OTOH, I’d have trouble coming up with an equal number of anti-democratic actions by Democrats as Trump and the GOP over the past decade, so not sure how seriously I should take these conclusions that it’s a general problem?

A recent study reveals that vanishingly few voters will defect from a candidate who acts undemocratically.

The Atlantic said:
Imagine a candidate you like. This politician has everything: the right positions on taxes, abortion, foreign policy, immigration; sound judgment; enough personal probity to be trusted with your wallet, house keys, or email password. Now imagine that that candidate does or says something antidemocratic. For no particular reason, she shuts down polling stations. Or at a rally, she tells supporters that a particular journalist—standing over there, in the Men’s Wearhouse sport coat—is asking too many questions and might deserve to get rabbit-punched on the way to his car. Care to change your vote?

This purely theoretical scenario, which of course bears no relationship to anything that has happened or is happening in American politics, is the subject of an article in the American Political Science Review by Matthew H. Graham and Milan W. Svolik of Yale University. How much do voters really care about democracy? Nearly all Americans say democracy matters. But how many will actually punish their preferred candidate and withhold a vote when that candidate does something undemocratic?

Graham and Svolik’s answer: About 3.5 percent of voters will defect from a candidate whom they otherwise support, but who does something destructive of democratic norms. Those 3.5 percent come from the right and the left in equal proportions, but they tend to be moderates. (Self-described “independents”—those mysterious, yeti-like creatures who profess to have no political preference at all—vote slightly more like extremists.) If you value democracy, hug a moderate.

“If you just ask people whether they like democracy, there’s a social norm that says they have to answer yes,” Svolik told me. They have been conditioned since grade school to say “democracy is good, 10 out of 10—and we should also stop global warming and save the whales and whatever.” He and Graham surveyed 1,691 people and posed instead a version of the hypothetical question I asked above: You say you like democracy, but will you sacrifice other things you like on its behalf, by withholding your vote for a democracy-bashing candidate? “Some will, but the punishment is small,” Svolik said: those willing to vote for the opposing candidate often do so only if he is similar to the candidate they intended to support in the first place. That means partisanship encourages more antidemocratic action: Stronger partisans will let the thuggishness slide, if they would have to sacrifice more than a small portion of their positions. The greater the number of strong partisan voters and politicians, the smaller the punishment for violating democratic norms, and the more likely the norm-breaker is to get elected.

Then Graham and Svolik checked their survey data against an actual case: the Montana congressional election that pitted the Republican tech mogul Greg Gianforte against Rob Quist, a Democrat best known for playing the banjo and other stringed instruments. On the day before the election, Gianforte became irritated with a line of questioning by Ben Jacobs, a Guardian journalist, and threw Jacobs to the ground. Gianforte, who won the election, later pleaded guilty to assault. He is currently in Congress, and is likely to be elected the next governor of Montana.

On Election Day, voters at the polls knew about Gianforte’s violence—but those who mailed in their ballots early had not. And in this real-world scenario, given to us by the gods of political science, Graham and Svolik’s prediction came true: About 3.6 percent of Gianforte’s votes on Election Day vanished relative to the votes counted before voters knew he body-slammed Jacobs. Body-slamming a journalist makes a difference, but not much of one, and especially not to extreme partisans.

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This study’s findings may explain why Trump’s support is so “sticky”. It may not be that it’s a cult so much as it says something fundamental about all of us?

OTOH, I’d have trouble coming up with an equal number of anti-democratic actions by Democrats as Trump and the GOP over the past decade, so not sure how seriously I should take these conclusions that it’s a general problem?

A recent study reveals that vanishingly few voters will defect from a candidate who acts undemocratically.

This is interesting and probably because there's almost always a sense of voting for the lesser of two evils, so people have to weigh what they perceive the consequences might be for them if the other candidate wins. There's also the real possibility at some future point of both candidates behaving undemocratically.

We're at a crossroads right now, where some of the worst case scenarios liberals have been mulling over for years, decades even, are about to come true, such as roe going down. I don't know what effect this is going to have on the party and candidates.
 

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I think this would be a matter of more concern if the candidates held the same view, supported the same things and made the same promises. Something like a party nomination vote, where everyone's more-or-less on the same side.
In the case here, 3.5 % of voters would defect, but they would still support democracy in the way that counts: they would vote.

Suggesting that someone be punched is not exactly the same as refusing to accept ballots, or closing polling places. Punching is more of an 'act of stupidity' than 'antidemocratic'. Not something to be approved or encouraged, but if the candidate's other views aligned with the voter's, a one-time statement might not affect the decision.
 
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