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Biology: Extra DNA may make unlikely hybrids possible

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https://www.quantamagazine.org/extra-dna-may-make-unlikely-hybrid-fish-possible-20200805/

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Their mothers were Russian sturgeons — large carnivores with creamy bellies, short, rounded snouts, and green, dragonlike scales. Their fathers were American paddlefish — smooth-skinned filter feeders with sensitive, elongated snouts. “Sturddlefish,” as these hybrids have been nicknamed since researchers in Hungary recently announced their creation, go shockingly far beyond classic crossbreeds like mules and ligers, whose parent species sit close together on the tree of life. Sturddlefish result from the merger of different taxonomic families.

“I’m still confused. My jaw is still on the floor,” said Prosanta Chakrabarty, an ichthyologist at Louisiana State University and the curator of fishes at its Museum of Natural Science. “It’s like if they had a cow and a giraffe make a baby.” Then he quickly corrected himself, because the lineages of those two ruminants split only a few dozen million years ago. The evolutionary paths of paddlefish and sturgeons diverged 184 million years ago. For those fish to breed is more like “if a human came out of a platypus egg,” he said.

Hybrids are often shrugged off as freaky living violations of the rules that keep species distinct. But scientific interest in them has grown with mounting evidence that in nature hybrids can be important both in the emergence of new species and in the conservation of species on the brink of extinction.

Because the new sturddlefish are so radical, they are shaking up scientists’ understanding of what kinds of hybrids may be possible and which species might be most prone to interbreeding successfully. Studies of the new fish could also be poised to provide deep insights into how genomes work more generally.

The hybridization of these sturgeons and paddlefish was unintentional, but it wasn’t precisely an accident. In fact, the researchers who arranged it were counting on the cross to fail so that they could learn something about how sex is determined in Russian sturgeons.

In mammals and birds, male and female sex is usually determined by sex-specific genes on sex-specific chromosomes. But among fish, anything goes: Some fish have sex chromosomes, while others take sexual development cues from their environments or transition from one sex to the other. No one is quite sure how sturgeons do it, but many are keen to know because sturgeon eggs are highly prized as caviar (some high-end caviar sells for more than $180 an ounce). If researchers can figure out how to farm Russian sturgeon stocks that are mostly female, it could alleviate a notorious problem with overfishing of wild populations.

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Hmm, an unbridled pandemic runs rampant amidst the turmoil of unparalleled global climate change, unethical genetic experiments slip from inadequate containment, and the age of the chimera looms . . .
 

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On the bright side, cheap caviar! Pay no attention to the mouth-tentacles you’ve started growing, they look good on you.
 
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It really is neat, and surprising. Go, science!