And now, this. Some folks will use anything to gain control of women's bodies.

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Abortion rights groups are accusing the attorney general of Ohio of using the coronavirus crisis to restrict abortion access after clinics in the state were sent letters this week faulting them for not complying with an order aimed at preserving a limited supply of surgical equipment and protective gear.

In a letter dated on Tuesday, Ohio's Department of Health ordered all non-essential surgical and elective procedures postponed so that protective equipment like masks and gowns can be reserved for doctors caring for coronavirus patients. Ohio has seen 174 coronavirus cases and three deaths.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...S&utm_campaign=nprblogscoronavirusliveupdates

I can certainly see restricting access to some medical procedures during this time. Some surgeries and procedures, even treatments intended to alleviate discomfort a person has been living with for a while, can probably wait for a few more months if someone's life or long-term health is not at risk. But carrying a pregnancy to term also consumes medical personnel and resources--gloves, gowns, masks, sterilization of equipment etc. for each pre-natal checkup--and possibly a lot if a pregnancy develops complications. And giving birth certainly does, though maybe they figure women will just have to give birth at home by the time an unwanted pregnancy comes to term). And anyway, if a woman has chosen to terminate a pregnancy, it's most definitely not something that can be postponed for months, or even weeks.

I'm rather suspicious these folks aren't really as concerned about conserving scarce medical resources as they are jumping at a convenient excuse to push their pro-birth agenda. It's pretty shameless, really. Waiting for other states to follow their lead here.
 

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I'm off to sell some more "essential" tire shine. Friends are telling me I'm lucky to still have a job. I don't feel lucky. Be safe, everyone!
 

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I suspect we're going to see a lot of agendas pushed under cover of this. Nothing like a pandemic to keep the public distracted and justify extreme measures that, somehow, linger after the emergency is over...
 

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I'm off to sell some more "essential" tire shine. Friends are telling me I'm lucky to still have a job. I don't feel lucky. Be safe, everyone!

You too, Diana.

Reading your account of the folks coming to the auto shop to buy tire shine and stuff, it almost seems as if shopping for stuff one really doesn't need right now is an excuse to get out and socialize. It's rather sad, but it's also infuriating, since they are putting everyone else in that store at risk. Some shops are starting to enforce social distancing within their confines--only allowing a small number of customers in at a time, and sanitizing carts, baskets etc between customers. There may be a point soon where those kinds of measures become mandatory, even for essential businesses.

I suspect we're going to see a lot of agendas pushed under cover of this. Nothing like a pandemic to keep the public distracted and justify extreme measures that, somehow, linger after the emergency is over...

And one consequence may be a boom in covid 19 babies--conceived during the relentless monotony of "shelter at home," all carried to term without access to abortion or normal levels of prenatal care, and delivered at home or in spartan, minimalist settings, so some will be harmed or disabled in ways that would have been preventable before.
 
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Well, at least there are some federal judges left who see through this.

Federal judges in Alabama, Ohio and Texas have blocked orders banning nonessential medical procedures from limiting abortion access during the coronavirus outbreak, a win for abortion rights activists as the fight over abortion rights intersects with the worsening pandemic.
"Because Alabama law imposes time limits on when women can obtain abortions, the March 27 order is likely to fully prevent some women from exercising their right to obtain an abortion," federal Judge Myron Thompson, from the Middle District of Alabama, wrote Monday. He temporarily halted the order, issued by the state's Health Department earlier this month, until April 13.
"And for those women who, despite the mandatory postponement, are able to vindicate their right, the required delay may pose an undue burden that is not justified by the State's purported rationales," he added.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/politics/texas-order-abortion-block-coronavirus/index.html
 

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And some who don't.

Appeals court upholds Texas’ abortion ban as a public health emergency measure
The court said a previous ruling from a federal judge blocking the ban ignored the state’s ability to restrict rights during a public health emergency....

Updated at 5:30 p.m. with additional information and comments.

AUSTIN — The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals says Texas can enforce its ban on elective abortions during the coronavirus pandemic.

In a split decision Tuesday, the court said Texas has the right to restrict access to elective abortions during a public health emergency, doubling down on a decision last week to overturn a lower court’s ruling to block the ban.

This is the latest development in a legal battle over whether abortions should be allowed to continue as hospitals across the state and country face medical constraints during the coronavirus pandemic.

In a March 21 executive order, Gov. Greg Abbott said all nonessential medical procedures would be postponed to free up hospital beds and personal protective equipment amid rising COVID-19 cases.

But after Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton warned the order included elective abortions, a coalition of abortion providers sued the state. They argue the order infringes on women’s rights by including all types of abortions, including those that do not require personal protective equipment. Most abortions already don’t take place in hospitals.

Siding with abortion providers, U.S. District Judge Lee Yeakel blocked the state from enforcing the ban. After Paxton’s office took the case to the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, the court reversed Yeakel’s decision last week and said the state could enforce the ban, issuing a temporary stay of the district court’s order.

On Tuesday, Circuit Judges Jennifer Walker Elrod and Kyle Duncan, both Republican appointees, reaffirmed that ruling and said Yeakel ignored the framework of special powers granted by the U.S. Supreme Court to states during public health emergencies....

Elrod was appointed to the court by President George W. Bush, and Duncan was appointed by Donald Trump.

Circuit Judge James L. Dennis, appointed by Democrat Bill Clinton, said he “respectfully but emphatically” disagreed with the ruling. In his dissent, Dennis says the state’s decision to halt abortions unless necessary to a woman’s health is not sufficiently relevant to the order’s intended goal of conserving medical equipment and maintaining access to hospital beds. The state has therefore gone beyond its public health emergency powers, he said.

“In a time where panic and fear already consume our daily lives, the majority’s opinion inflicts further panic and fear on women in Texas by depriving them, without justification, of their constitutional rights, exposing them to the risks of continuing an unwanted pregnancy, as well as the risks of travelling to other states in search of time-sensitive medical care,” he wrote.

Earlier on Tuesday, abortion advocates told the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals that they planned to go to the U.S. Supreme Court if it did not issue a longer-term ruling on the temporary stay enacted last week.

Shows what damage is being done in lower federal courts. And we have no SCOTUS to oversee the travesties.
 
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And some who don't.

Appeals court upholds Texas’ abortion ban as a public health emergency measure


Shows what damage is being done in lower federal courts. And we have no SCOTUS to oversee the travesties.

It's pretty thinly veiled political ideology at work here. This emergency is being used as cover to chip away at all manner of laws and rights, from bans on plastic bags to environmental regulations, to the rights of women to control their own reproductive state. I wonder how long before some state declares that contraceptive drugs should be considered "nonessential" during this crisis, so health care providers in a given state shouldn't fill them, even remotely?

For a woman who is pregnant, of course, the consequences of being told to wait months to get an abortion are much more severe and permanent than someone being told they have to wait six months to get a knee replacement or to have plastic surgery. Later procedures are riskier and more traumatic, assuming they are even available, and that the delay doesn't simply take the woman to term. And given the circumstances, the medical resources consumed by pre-natal care and delivery could actually be greater than those consumed by an early abortion. Plus, pregnancies could well be higher risk and more stressful by default now, given reduced access to medical facilities, staff, and equipment (especially if something goes wrong and the woman needs intensive care). I's an extra scary time to be pregnant, even for women who wish to be pregnant and are joyfully anticipating the birth.

I wish there were a pill that could bestow empathy, or something you could just put in the water or something. Imagine, though, the conspiracy theories that would arise if that were the case. People got nutty enough about fluoride!
 

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Another consequence of state bans on abortion as an "unnecessary" procedure during Covid-19: pregnant women traveling further to get abortions at a time when travel itself is risky.

https://www.npr.org/sections/corona...-in-neighboring-states-see-influx-of-patients

According to Planned Parenthood, clinics in Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada saw 129 patients from Texas between March 23 and April 14, compared with 16 Texas patients during the entire month of February, a 706% increase. During the same period in 2019, a Planned Parenthood official said those clinics saw 14 patients from Texas.

Tocce said she recently saw a patient who traveled 16 hours for a procedure. She said some patients are flying or making long drives at a time when travel is being discouraged because of the pandemic.