What elevates a story from liked to loved?

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Thank you Elfriede and indianroads. Elfriede, it's good to hear the different views and I can see style being a key to many readers (though what readers prefer seems to vary greatly when it comes to style). Indianroads, that's a good measure - when the characters become real. It's something I heard often with my other story, but only some with this one, so not sure what the difference was.
 
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Oh for sure. Like, for example, Cormac McCarthy's style is my absolute favourite of anyone in the world. I know people who think he's borderline incompetent and hiding his failings behind 'lack of punctuation' so the opinions on what makes a style great vary wildly. I think as long as the author shows they know what aesthetic they're going for, and they can pull it off without any awkward attempt to streamline their prose or style, then it's fine with me.
 

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Thank you Nerdilydone. I can definitely see worldbuilding as an important aspect, especially in certain genres. One of my R&Rs did involve making the setting more of a "character," which I'd say I probably still failed at (I don't know the agent's response yet). With this YA thriller, I can't really think of anything that needed more research.

I'll check out the book you recommended and thanks for the recommendation. This particular story is so on the fence with so many agents that in the time since I've started this thread two more agents with the full have emailed to say they're still considering it. Stressful, but I'm trying not to even get my hopes up.

That's fine that you wouldn't read the other book b/c it has a victim of child porn, and it's not intended for all audiences, but I still feel passionately about that book and see it as something that's needed in the literature.

Oh, a victim of child porn? I was thinking it would take a different angle than that, for some reason. My bad. Well, while I can't say I'm a fan of reading stories of victimhood (it makes me too mad), keep on keepin' on.

What I meant by something to research is something to add that might seem unnecessary to the story but really enriches it. Like, the characters are involved in a certain type of career that you would go into detail about, or, if there are fantasy elements, you bring in some sort of fantastic creature or lifestyle. Or maybe you could have one of the characters own a hamster and have elements of hamster care or your character talking to it regularly.

Anything works. Your story is very emotional (so it sounds), and having a nonfiction or demi-nonfiction element enrich the story could work to balance things out by allowing the reader to learn something objective. But of course, I'm really only stating what I like, and I love nonfiction elements in fiction, or fiction imitating nonfiction by pretending to be history or something like that.
 

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Good points, Elfriede and Nerdilydone. Thank you again.
 

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I have agonized over this question, both as a book reviewer and an author. As a reader, I’m pretty good at pinpointing why I do or don’t fall in love with a book and what the book might have needed to make me love it. But some of the books that fell totally flat for me are huge bestsellers by beloved authors. I can only conclude that they’re bringing their target audience something that I’m built in such a way as not to be able to appreciate.

There are certain traits that may be more likely to get characters loved. Strong desires, motivations, conflicts. Emotional transparency. But beyond that, I think reader responses get very personal and can vary wildly. Some people like volatility and unpredictability; others want archetypal heroes and villains. Some readers don’t want narrators to be prickly or angry, especially female narrators. Others seek out that kind of book. There is no magic bullet; I wish there were!

I’ve found it invaluable to have in-person critique partners with whom I can discuss my characters. Reactions are very candid and spontaneous, and you learn a lot about why certain characters are beloved more than others. Even then, though ... I had a devious, twisted character my CPs really enjoyed. Not all editors have been so enthusiastic.