Do I need permission to cite or refer to other people's work in my book?

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Hi Everyone:

I have just written a New Age book with 95,000 words. I am a little confused with regard to whether I need permission or not to cite other people's work. Someone who reviewed my proposal suggested that I would need to get permissions from all of the authors whom I cite. I have 175 discrete external references in my book. They are appropriately referenced, whether paraphrased, or when appropriate quotations are applied. I have a more scholarly approach so I know how to cite people. It would be daunting to get permission from every reference... in fact, well nigh impossible.

Please let me know what the conventions or legalities are in such an instance. 175 permissions make no sense to me, but maybe I am wrong. She claims that because I am seeking to make money from the book, that is, because it is a commercial venture (not scholarly) I must get permissions unless the citations are from the public domain.

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-Charles
 

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An online forum is not the place to get legal advice. You should consult an attorney who specializes in copyright law.
 

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You need to distinguish between a citation and a quotation.

They are not the same. A citation is a bibliographic reference. You do not need permission for a citation.

If you quote someone else's work you need to consult with your publisher or an IP attorney about whether or not you need permission.
 

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I am not sure I understand. What if I paraphrase and cite the source as a reference?
 

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I am not sure I understand. What if I paraphrase and cite the source as a reference?

I would suggest avoiding paraphrase and rewriting in your own words as much as possible.

When in doubt, consult an IP attorney or write and ask for permission to quote.
 

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Can you quote lyrics from a song in a novel? Not the whole song, mind you. Just a few lines.
 

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Can you quote lyrics from a song in a novel? Not the whole song, mind you. Just a few lines.

Not without permission, which will almost certainly involve paying a fee to the rights-holder.
 

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Can you quote lyrics from a song in a novel? Not the whole song, mind you. Just a few lines.

Length generally doesn't matter. I've got a blog post up about how I licensed some lyrics for my first book. It cost me $100 for 4,000 uses (copies) for 11 words of Jim Steiman.

As I say in the post, always have a plan B, in case the artist's legal people don't respond.
 

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Length generally doesn't matter. I've got a blog post up about how I licensed some lyrics for my first book. It cost me $100 for 4,000 uses (copies) for 11 words of Jim Steiman.

As I say in the post, always have a plan B, in case the artist's legal people don't respond.

That's an excellent post, Bob.
 

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The quotes in my books are pre-copyright law. Otherwise, when my Mc turns on the radio I will give the name of the song as in Billy turned on the radio and Hey Jude started up.
 

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The quotes in my books are pre-copyright law. Otherwise, when my Mc turns on the radio I will give the name of the song as in Billy turned on the radio and Hey Jude started up.

Also worth noting that copyright expirations can vary by country, so make sure you do your research. (I'm sure you did, Cindyt, but I got snagged by this one and eventually pulled the quotes entirely, so I figured it was worth mentioning.)
 

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When you license, the prices vary based on print (paperback and hardcopy), ebook, numbers of copies, location, and context.

Also be sure that you contact all the rights holders; sometimes there are multiple entities. This is especially true for music; ASCAP may, for example, control some rights, but if more than one person has rights not all rights will necessarily be represented by a single entity.

Which one reason an IP attorney may be helpful.
 

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Length generally doesn't matter. I've got a blog post up about how I licensed some lyrics for my first book. It cost me $100 for 4,000 uses (copies) for 11 words of Jim Steiman.

As I say in the post, always have a plan B, in case the artist's legal people don't respond.

Thanks for that info! Since I'm a songwriter, I'll just make up some lyrics and quote myself. :)
 

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Thanks for that info! Since I'm a songwriter, I'll just make up some lyrics and quote myself. :)

That's what I do when I need song lyrics. Otherwise I do what a previous poster already mentioned and just say the name of the band, or the title of the song, or talk about the style of the music (that bass line was epic...) but not use someone else's lyrics.