Who Will the Dems Nominate?

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Yes, this is early. Yes, this hinges on whether or not DT is still in office and sooooooo many other things, but...

...who's your early best guess? Who will rise to the top during the very long, crowded, and contentious primary season? Will voters go establishment or progressive unknown? Who has the best chance of beating Trump if things don't change too much from now until then?

There are tons of articles and lists. Here are just a few:


A lot of names surprise me. I don't see many of them having a chance in hell of exciting the base (Cuomo, Avenatti), but stranger things have happened, right?
 

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Ask me next year. Too many people are hedging their bets and deciding too early with purity tests or, even worse, basing their desired nomination on one single impassioned speech. It's flailing in the wild and it's coming up with nobody.
 

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It's too early. There are eight weeks left before Election Day. How that goes will make a big difference on 2020.

Hit me back after November. Things will be a bit clearer by then.
 

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It's too early, as others have said. But, I'll throw out Cory Booker's name as a near meaningless, early guess. It will be a centrist, or course.
 

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I agree that it is more likely to be someone viewed as a centrist. My gut feeling is Harris or Gillibrand.
 

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Going to tiptoe around this conversation, but I'm a little uncertain as to what defines a centrist.
 

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Going to tiptoe around this conversation, but I'm a little uncertain as to what defines a centrist.

In this sense, not a progressive. Someone cool with the corporate oligarchy. Someone fine with distant wars for corporate benefit. Someone who might make lip service to the rights of minorities, but will do little to sway the balance of power. Some like: Obama in his first six years in office, Hillary or Bill Clinton throughout their careers, etc. imho.
 

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I think a tree stump or a rock would be infinitely better than what's been in office thus far...

A rock would win in a landslide (get it? :) )
 

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Still tiptoeing, but I really want to get through November before I actually think about this seriously.
 

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I think a tree stump or a rock would be infinitely better than what's been in office thus far...

A rock would win in a landslide (get it? :) )

:tongue
 

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Yes, this is early. Yes, this hinges on whether or not DT is still in office and sooooooo many other things, but...

...who's your early best guess? Who will rise to the top during the very long, crowded, and contentious primary season? Will voters go establishment or progressive unknown? Who has the best chance of beating Trump if things don't change too much from now until then?

There are tons of articles and lists. Here are just a few:


A lot of names surprise me. I don't see many of them having a chance in hell of exciting the base (Cuomo, Avenatti), but stranger things have happened, right?


Hard to say who the dems will nominate.
Depends who wins the internecine infighting of the extreme left socialist antifa wing versus the rational minds that want to win with a more centrist less divisive candidate. Their problem is that they really do not have any good candidates. Most are too old and stuck in the past. The others are unknowns with no name recognition or following.

Trump will win unless the RINOs and neocons sabotage him AND the dems go mainstream instead of going farther down the road to the left.
 

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I think a tree stump or a rock would be infinitely better than what's been in office thus far...

A rock would win in a landslide (get it? :) )


That is what they said about Hillary. Trouble was the fake polls the lame stream media kept printing to boost morale were believed and too many dems stayed home.
 

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Er...mate, I'm not sure that 'extreme left socialist antifa wing vs rational minds' and 'lame stream media' hyperbole is going to fly here.
 

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That is what they said about Hillary. Trouble was the fake polls the lame stream media kept printing to boost morale were believed and too many dems stayed home.

Sources? Links to back up your claims? This is the same tired old stuff - bashing Hillary (who is not president), and claims of "fake media."
 

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I'd love to see Harris win. Donnie losing to someone who is both black and a woman would destroy him.

But in the end, I think the safest bet to get rid of Trump is for Bernie to win, primarily because I do not trust Berniecrats to show up to vote for anyone who isn't Bernie. They've already shown they have no problem allowing a Republican to win an election despite how vile he was. 12% of them even voted for Trump. How people who call themselves progressives can vote for a corporatist racist is beyond me, but they'll rationalize it by claiming they're both evil and it's irrelevant who wins.

I don't have a problem with Bernie winning. My issues with him are his age and that I suspect beneath the veneer of the humble, average man is an arrogance as deep as an ocean. But he has good ideas, and I wouldn't mind seeing him implement them.
 

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I don't have a problem with Bernie winning. My issues with him are his age and that I suspect beneath the veneer of the humble, average man is an arrogance as deep as an ocean. But he has good ideas, and I wouldn't mind seeing him implement them.

I suspect that you're going to find that arrogance in anyone who thinks they're good enough to run a country. It's just part of the package. It's how they use that arrogance, and what they do with it.

"Humble and average" is hardly enough to sustain a candidate through fighting your way to the top, gaining the nomination, the campaign and the election.
 
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I'd love to see Harris win. Donnie losing to someone who is both black and a woman would destroy him.

But in the end, I think the safest bet to get rid of Trump is for Bernie to win, primarily because I do not trust Berniecrats to show up to vote for anyone who isn't Bernie. They've already shown they have no problem allowing a Republican to win an election despite how vile he was. 12% of them even voted for Trump. How people who call themselves progressives can vote for a corporatist racist is beyond me, but they'll rationalize it by claiming they're both evil and it's irrelevant who wins.

I don't have a problem with Bernie winning. My issues with him are his age and that I suspect beneath the veneer of the humble, average man is an arrogance as deep as an ocean. But he has good ideas, and I wouldn't mind seeing him implement them.

Bernie Sanders is at least as polarizing as Clinton. Hell, I'd have to hold my nose (but I'd vote for him if it came down to it).
 

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Bernie Sanders is at least as polarizing as Clinton. Hell, I'd have to hold my nose (but I'd vote for him if it came down to it).
But that's the point. A Clinton supporter would rationalize it would be best to vote for Bernie despite their feelings about him. The same isn't necessarily true for the Berniecrats. If Bernie wins, the vast majority of the party would be united in getting rid of Trump.
 

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But that's the point. A Clinton supporter would rationalize it would be best to vote for Bernie despite their feelings about him. The same isn't necessarily true for the Berniecrats. If Bernie wins, the vast majority of the party would be united in getting rid of Trump.

I refuse to believe he's our only option. Also, he's not a Democrat. I'd be surprised if he could survive the GOP slime machine.

As for the BernieBros...nothing I can say here that wouldn't get me banned.
 

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But he has good ideas, and I wouldn't mind seeing him implement them.
He's had a long time--decades--to make moves toward implementing them, but never has. Hasn't even laid out any workable plans for implementing them. Take Medicare for All. Wasn't his idea, though you wouldn't know it from him. Rep. Conyers was sponsoring Medicare for All bills for over a decade before Bernie Sanders tacked it on to his standard stump speech because he wanted to be president.

Bernie Sanders hasn't accomplished much besides getting himself in front of cameras. At some point, he really should be vetted. So far, that has not happened.