Myers-Briggs and You

HR Garcia · Jul 10, 2018

A professor of mine once had us take this test as an assignment, and I was surprised at how "on the nose" the results were. I'm INFJ, and it's supposed to be one of the rarest, but one of the career paths is writing. So it's rare in the general population, but I'm guessing pretty prevalent here? If so - I'm glad to have found my tribe

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cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

I hope to hell it wasn't a professor of psychology, heh.

Lavern08 · Jul 10, 2018

Took the test ages ago - It indicated that I'm an ENFJ - Guess I'm an exception to the Most writers are introverts rule? :Shrug:

HR Garcia · Jul 10, 2018

cornflake said:
I hope to hell it wasn't a professor of psychology, heh.

lol, it was a communications class. I take it you aren't a fan of personality tests? I'm not going to wager anything serious on the results, just sort of interesting.

HR Garcia · Jul 10, 2018

Lavern08 said:
Took the test ages ago - It indicated that I'm an ENFJ - Guess I'm an exception to the Most writers are introverts rule?

I just heard something the other day debunking the writer/introvert thing..but my memory sucks and I don't know where it was.

Ari Meermans · Jul 10, 2018

heh. From a "broad brush" perspective, those tests can be accurate. I remember having to take the test years ago as part of an outplacement program when the company I worked for was sold. When I walked in wearing a black shirtwaist dress and a white blazer, the facilitator/instructor said, "I can see where you might not have been a personality match for the company." I said, "And I can see a "J" is in your own profile." Was in mine, too, dontcha know: INTJ.

Elle. · Jul 10, 2018

Lavern08 said:
Took the test ages ago - It indicated that I'm an ENFJ - Guess I'm an exception to the Most writers are introverts rule?

Introvert and extrovert on the Myers Briggs has nothing to do about being an extravert or an introvert. First the test itself has to do about preferences and not simply who you are. Think of it as being right-handed and signing your name: it is natural and your preference and comes automatically without thinking. You can sign with your left hand but it is forced, you have to concentrate more but it doesn't mean that you can't do. That's what the pairs for each initial means, a preference and with all preferences it can be more or less define.

Now back to the Introvert / extrovert scale it has to do is where people draw their energy and not how outgoing you are. Think of it as a battery, an introvert is like a robot that is battering operated that draws its energy from the inside, more likely to reflect on things before speaking. An extrovert is a solar operated robot it draws its energy from the outside like people who like bouncing ideas off other people.

So the introvert being typical writer is pretty much fluff. A writer can be either or depending on where they like to draw their energy from.

cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

HR Garcia said:
lol, it was a communications class. I take it you aren't a fan of personality tests? I'm not going to wager anything serious on the results, just sort of interesting.

I think personality measures are interesting.

It irks me that that dippy game has gained fame as anything but a game is all, sorry. People think it's some sort of psychological test.

cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

Elle. said:
Introvert and extrovert on the Myers Briggs has nothing to do about being an extravert or an introvert. First the test itself has to do about preferences and not simply who you are. Think of it as being right-handed and signing your name: it is natural and your preference and comes automatically without thinking. You can sign with your left hand but it is forced, you have to concentrate more but it doesn't mean that you can't do. That's what the pairs for each initial means, a preference and with all preferences it can be more or less define.

Now back to the Introvert / extrovert scale it has to do is where people draw their energy and not how outgoing you are. Think of it as a battery, an introvert is like a robot that is battering operated that draws its energy from the inside, more likely to reflect on things before speaking. An extrovert is a solar operated robot it draws its energy from the outside like people who like bouncing ideas off other people.

So the introvert being typical writer is pretty much fluff. A writer can be either or depending on where they like to draw their energy from.

Both handedness and, to a point, introversion or not, are set in the womb. To me, that's not a preference.

Lavern08 · Jul 10, 2018

Ari Meermans said:
....When I walked in wearing a black shirtwaist dress and a white blazer, the facilitator/instructor said, "I can see where you might not have been a personality match for the company." I said, "And I can see a "J" is in your own profile." Was in mine, too, dontcha know: INTJ.

Lavern08 · Jul 10, 2018

The MBTI instrument has four sets of letters:

E and I stand for Extraversion and Introversion—indicating whether you get energy from being around people or from time spent alone.

S and N stand for Sensing and Intuition—indicating whether you become aware of specific facts and concrete details or prefer to focus on hunches and the big picture.

T and F stand for Thinking and Feeling—indicating whether you tend to make decisions based on logical analysis and the principles involved or prefer to decide by considering your values and promoting harmony for the people involved.

J and P stand for Judging and Perceiving—indicating whether you prefer your life to be planned and like it when things are decided or prefer to go with the flow and like keeping your options open

Elle. · Jul 10, 2018

cornflake said:
Both handedness and, to a point, introversion or not, are set in the womb. To me, that's not a preference.

Agree to disagree on that one.

This test is not about who you are but how you prefer to do things or treat information.

With this test it is common to have extreme (like extreme preference for one way over the other) or you have people who don't show a clear preference for one end of the scale or the other. There is also regular instances where people preferences changes over the years through experience. For example, people who start as Perceiving and years later for X/Y reasons find themselves much more comfortable doing thing with a Judging preference.

Ari Meermans · Jul 10, 2018

Lavern08 said:
Ari Meermans said:

....When I walked in wearing a black shirtwaist dress and a white blazer, the facilitator/instructor said, "I can see where you might not have been a personality match for the company." I said, "And I can see a "J" is in your own profile." Was in mine, too, dontcha know: INTJ.

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Marissa D · Jul 10, 2018

Fellow INTJ here, Ari Meermans. It's fairly spot on for me.

MaeZe · Jul 10, 2018

HR Garcia said:
lol, it was a communications class. I take it you aren't a fan of personality tests? I'm not going to wager anything serious on the results, just sort of interesting.

That one in particular is a fraud, no better than a horoscope. The people who promote it scam millions from HR departments of big companies.

If you read your horoscope most people think it applies to them and the other signs don't. It's the nature of 'cold reading'.

MaeZe · Jul 10, 2018

Not to ruin anyone's fun, as a fun test to take, there's no problem. But applying validity is. The fact HR departments waste money on the test is why I speak up. Both of the following summarize the problem.

BBC Op ED: Debunking the Myers-Briggs personality test

Vox: Why the Myers-Briggs test is totally meaningless

DanielSTJ · Jul 10, 2018

INFP-- though nearly an INTP.

cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

Elle. said:
Agree to disagree on that one.

This test is not about who you are but how you prefer to do things or treat information.

With this test it is common to have extreme (like extreme preference for one way over the other) or you have people who don't show a clear preference for one end of the scale or the other. There is also regular instances where people preferences changes over the years through experience. For example, people who start as Perceiving and years later for X/Y reasons find themselves much more comfortable doing thing with a Judging preference.

Oh, I wasn't at ALL talking about the Meyers-Briggs game. It's a silly game.

I was talking about handedness (which is absolutely innate and set before birth -- not that people can't learn to do something with the other hand and that some people are a bit in the middle but in general) and actual scientific measures of introversion which are trackable from the womb.

Helix · Jul 10, 2018

HR Garcia said:
I just heard something the other day debunking the writer/introvert thing..but my memory sucks and I don't know where it was.

It's almost as if the Myers-Briggs stuff is a load of old tosh...

lonestarlibrarian · Jul 10, 2018

I've been INFJ for at least 20 years... we also took those tests in school, and these days, it comes across your FB feed once in a while or bump into it in other random places on the internet...

Way better than "What Kind of Breakfast Cereal Are You" or "What's Your Spirit Animal" kind of quizzes that used to be popular.

cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

lonestarlibrarian said:
I've been INFJ for at least 20 years... we also took those tests in school, and these days, it comes across your FB feed once in a while or bump into it in other random places on the internet...

Way better than "What Kind of Breakfast Cereal Are You" or "What's Your Spirit Animal" kind of quizzes that used to be popular.

Yet very similar!

Helix · Jul 10, 2018

lonestarlibrarian said:
I've been INFJ for at least 20 years... we also took those tests in school, and these days, it comes across your FB feed once in a while or bump into it in other random places on the internet...

Way better than "What Kind of Breakfast Cereal Are You" or "What's Your Spirit Animal" kind of quizzes that used to be popular.

There are only 16 M-B types, but how many breakfast cereals? I reckon the breakfast cereals one would be more nuanced.

Albedo · Jul 10, 2018

And there are like 10 million species on Earth, so that's endless options for Spirit Animal.

Most of you are beetles, mind you.

lizmonster · Jul 10, 2018

Helix said:
There are only 16 M-B types, but how many breakfast cereals? I reckon the breakfast cereals one would be more nuanced.

You Are:

HONEY NUT CHEERIOS

You may be bland on the outside, but inside you're full of the taste of slightly sweetened cardboard! Your best assets are your portability, and your astonishing ability to turn into spackling compound when mixed with milk. Your perfect mate is Froot Loops - sweeter, more colorful, but attracted to your reliability. Your sworn enemy is Cap'n Crunch. Because Cap'n Crunch.

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cornflake · Jul 10, 2018

Helix said:
There are only 16 M-B types, but how many breakfast cereals? I reckon the breakfast cereals one would be more nuanced.

I agree, but may be biased.

I got THE WRONG CORN. That test was clearly bogus!!

You got: Corn Pops

Gotta have your Pops! You’re sweet and a total softy on the inside. But people shouldn’t be fooled. You’re a total bad ass when you want to be.

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