ABC fires Roseanne after racist tweets. Cancels show.

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I came home from fishing today and the internet was on fire. Roseanne opened her big mouth and inserted her even bigger foot with some racist tweets. ABC did the right thing and cancelled her show. I was surprised about that because usually money talks and Roseannes new show was making everyone money. Another reason I don't have twitter.
 

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Not one bit surprised; not the first time she's said something hateful and stupid. Generously, she seems to be a damaged human with serious Issues. (Not generously, she has far less of an excuse, not that any excuse makes it all good.)

Kudos to ABC for taking a stand, though.

Give it a week, maybe two, and she'll pop right back up, maybe on Faux or somewhere even further right. Too much money to be made in extremism and hate for a worm to crawl back under their rock...
 

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Seriously amazed they yanked the show, but somewhat suspicious of the timing. They've got a couple months for her to wage an apology/rehab tour and still get it back on the air for fall.
 

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Purveyor of truly insane QAnon conspiracy theories. Also, prospective Green Party presidential candidate in 2012 (remember that?). I met her once, she was...like you'd expect.
 

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Seriously amazed they yanked the show, but somewhat suspicious of the timing. They've got a couple months for her to wage an apology/rehab tour and still get it back on the air for fall.

When Sarah Huckabee Sanders gets whacked by Trump, he'll probably hire Roseanne as his new press secretary. That should be fun.

Otherwise, pretty much fuck Roseanne's racist ass. In 2018, nobody can rationalize away comparing a Black woman to the Planet of the Apes. Well, some subhuman bags of skin can, but that's a small, stupid group. Roseanne's hate fest on Valarie Jarrett is not a dog whistle. That's blasting out your bigotry with a tuba.

But this is who Roseanne Barr is. Someone who is both talented and smart, yet embraces conspiracy theories, Jew-baiting, racist "jokes" and perpetuates appalling ignorance. Someone who proclaimed her fondness for socialism until she figured out there was gold in them thar hills being a Trumper and there was to the tune of $250,000 an episode of Roseanne. A nice little chunk of change you for me and you, but a mere pittance for a woman whose net worth is estimated at $80 million.

I never watched Roseanne's old show, so I certainly wasn't going to start with the new show no matter how many cute, token little Negro kids were in it. Roseanne was never a show made with me in mind, so I paid it no mind.

The president of ABC is a Black woman, which can't fail to be mentioned when the usual suspects on the Right start screaming that ABC caved to the "social justice warriors." The flaw in that argument is this is the same ABC exec who green-lit reviving Roseanne from the dead in the first place, and it paid off with 18 million viewers in its premiere as well as the official blessing of the Tweeter-in-Chief.

So, don't feel too sorry for Roseanne. She's going to have a nice fallback when she writes her book on how the Hollywood elites got her because they can't take a joke. Trump will trot her out during campaign stops this summer and the base will fucking love it. She's got a ghost-written column waiting for her at Breitbart, guest appearances on Fox, and the love and support of right-wingers who can't get enough of former libs who get devoured by their own and spat out for being conservatives.

If you can come back from defiling the national anthem in all its crotch-grabbing grotesqueness and be embraced by the same guy who has called Colin Kaepernick and other NFL players who kneeled, "sons of bitches" who "shouldn't be in this country" you can come back from anything.

Especially when you're a wealthy White woman like Roseanne. Everybody cares what you think. That is, until you remind them how cray-cray you are. That's when they can't get away from your ass fast enough. Some of us don't have that problem. We were never buying into Roseanne's bullshit anyway.

Roseanne did not get cancelled by Rosanne's nutty racism. ABC knew her elevator didn't stop on every floor long before they rescued her from the celebrity scrap heap. Roseanne got cancelled because Roseanne, same as Trump, couldn't shut the fuck up, wouldn't stay off social media, and refused to be controlled by handlers. She said what she genuinely thought and being uncontrollable hurts the product. That can't be allowed.
 

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I did a little investigating as to why Barr Tweeted about Jarrett now. There's an odd link between Barr's conspiracy theory, (CT), about a government mind control program that supposedly targeted Hollywood actors and a recent Wikileaks post that Jarrett's name appeared in some tangential way. It's bizarre.

I have no idea about these sources, it was hard to find anything at all yet.

Hollywoodlife:Roseanne attacked Valerie over a Wikileaks drop
claiming Obama had his CIA spy on the President of France, even though Valerie’s name is not mentioned. Her tweet was spotted in a chain responding to a story published by SGT Report, a conspiracy-oriented YouTube channel that calls themselves the “corporate propaganda antidote,” on Julian Assange releasing this new information. It was then noticed by those following her on the social platform and the backlash ensued.

Floppingaces Friday: Obama’s Rasputin, Valerie Jarrett, Behind Spygate:
Jarrett, born in Iran to American parents, has been with the Obamas since her days as Deputy Chief of Staff in the office of Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, the elder. She hired Michelle Obama, them Michelle Robinson to fill an opening in the mayor’s office. As Wiikileaks describes the beginning of a long relationship:

In 1991, as deputy chief of staff to Mayor Richard Daley, Jarrett interviewed Michelle Robinson for an opening in the mayor’s office, after which she immediately offered Robinson the job.[33] Michelle Robinson asked for time to think and also asked Jarrett to meet Robinson’s fiancé, Barack Obama. The three ended up meeting for dinner. After the dinner, Michelle took the job with the mayor’s office, and Valerie Jarrett reportedly took the couple under her wing and “introduced them to a wealthier and better-connected Chicago than their own.” Jarrett later took Michelle with her when Jarrett left the mayor’s office to head Chicago’s Department of Planning and Development.​
Whole bunch of weird Obama CT stuff follows.

History: Vigilantcitizen 2013:Roseanne Barr: “MK ULTRA Mind Control Rules in Hollywood”
In a recent interview with RT, Roseanne talked about the dark side of the entertainment industry and directly mentioned MK ULTRA as being a major force in Hollywood. Here’s the interview (it is set up to start at the part about the entertainment industry)...

“It’s also a big culture of Mind Control. MK ULTRA Mind Control rules in Hollywood.”

This means that many stars do not speak out because they literally cannot do so. They are mind controlled which means that they have alter personas programmed into them that handler are able to trigger and control at will. (For more information on the subject read the article entitled Origins and Techniques of Monarch Mind Control)....

From the link in the link:
Monarch Programming is a method of mind control used by numerous organizations for covert purposes. It is a continuation of project MK-ULTRA, a mind-control program developed by the CIA, and tested on the military and civilians. The methods are astonishingly sadistic (its entire purpose is to traumatize the victim) and the expected results are horrifying: The creation of a mind-controlled slave who can be triggered at anytime to perform any action required by the handler. While mass media ignores this issue, over 2 million Americans have gone through the horrors of this program. This article looks at the origins of Monarch programming and some of its methods and symbolism.

NOTE: This article contains disturbing elements and might trigger Monarch survivors.

Bizarro world's effect on normal life spreads further.
 
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She is a disgusting human being and not funny in the least. She got what she deserved - and swiftly at that. She's a rich woman and can afford to be as ignorant as she likes, but the people who are behind the scenes, (camera people, stagers, writers, etc.) are now out of a job because she couldn't just keep her racist opinions to herself. She and Trump deserve each other, but it's really too bad that the Trump Show can't be cancelled just as swiftly as Rosanne was.
 

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Many cast members have projects they can fall back on. Tech crew? Writers? Those jobs are ridiculously impossible to get these days, even with pop-ups such as Netflix and Hulu dropping product faster than you can say "cat shit".
 
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Seems there's a big push on Twitter now to get Bill Maher fired, mainly as a form of score-settling. I'd feel so owned (but everyone's already used that joke already).
 

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After a spate of retweeting people going on about Kieth Olberman calling Trump a Nazi and, of all things, photos from (among others) David Letterman's old 'Trump or Monkey' skit from way before Trump was even running for anything (in which contestants looking at pics of three hairlines alone tried to discern Trump's hair from orangutan hair) vs. a pic of Valerie Jarret and an original Planet of the Apes ape, Roseanne twitted this:

Don't feel sorry for me, guys!!-I just want to apologize to the hundreds of people,and wonderful writers (all liberal) and talented actors who lost their jobs on my show due to my stupid tweet. I will be on Joe Rogan's podcast friday.
 

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I kind of assumed ABC canceled the show because they figured this would piss off enough viewers to cost them money. They get pissed about the show, then they start threatening to boycott advertisers, who then pull out to protect their own revenue... we've seen it happen before. So they made a business decision. This should make the right happy; they're all foaming-at-the-mouth capitalists, and the free market has spoken.
 

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No, the conservatives are wicked pissed over this right now. According to them her First Amendment rights have been destroyed, you can't even make a joke these days, why haven't they fired {INSERT NAME HERE} who flat out lied and called the Screamin' Cheeto a racist, so-and-so tweeted worse and yet they got a promotion, {INSERT LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE}, it's exactly like what happened to Tim Allen over Last Man Standing...choose your whataboutism. They had a celebrity mouthpiece on weekly TV who was spouting their particular brand of bullshit and getting paid quite handsomely for it, but what happens? It's getting so a conservative person truly is The Most Endangered Minority™ in the US these days! To conservatives, it's flat out censorship; nothing to do with free market anything or capitalist whatever.
 

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Excuse Bingo! Get your cards at the door!

It was.... Ambien!

guys I did something unforgiveable so do not defend me. It was 2 in the morning and I was ambien tweeting-it was memorial day too-i went 2 far & do not want it defended-it was egregious Indefensible. I made a mistake I wish I hadn't but...don't defend it please. ty

She's sorry and she accepts the consequences!

Please don't start all of that boycott abc stuff-I'm not a censor and they have the right to do what they wish. It' all ok. thanks tho guys!

I'm a comedian (though that wasn't a joke?)!

I'm sorry 4 my tweet, AND I will also defend myself as well as talk to my followers. so, go away if u don't like it. I will handle my sadness the way I want to. I'm tired of being attacked & belittled more than other comedians who have said worse.

*I will defend comics telling tasteless jokes all day long but it wasn't even remotely a joke, it was just calling a black woman an ape.
 

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No, the conservatives are wicked pissed over this right now. According to them her First Amendment rights have been destroyed, you can't even make a joke these days, why haven't they fired {INSERT NAME HERE} who flat out lied and called the Screamin' Cheeto a racist, so-and-so tweeted worse and yet they got a promotion, {INSERT LIBERAL CONSPIRACY THEORY HERE}, it's exactly like what happened to Tim Allen over Last Man Standing...choose your whataboutism. They had a celebrity mouthpiece on weekly TV who was spouting their particular brand of bullshit and getting paid quite handsomely for it, but what happens? It's getting so a conservative person truly is The Most Endangered Minority™ in the US these days! To conservatives, it's flat out censorship; nothing to do with free market anything or capitalist whatever.

Beg to differ. Slightly. There are conservatives who aren't pissed over this in the least. In fact, they're a little relieved over Roseanne's fall from grace.

The latest iteration of the sitcom featuring a middle American family was seen as a barometer of the tastes and perhaps even growing influence of Trump voters on American pop culture. The show drew large but diminishing audiences two decades after it went off the air, which set off a series of think pieces on what its popularity demonstrated about the state of America and Americans. Upon the show’s cancellation, media on the right weighed in largely with newsy posts about the Twitter remarks and subsequent sacking. Some longer, more substantive evaluation on the right pointed out that: A) Barr’s comments were abhorrent; and B) they were nothing new.

David French at National Review outlined how the actress and vocal Trump supporter’s venom sprayed every which way in his post “Roseanne and the High Cost of Embracing Craziness.” “If Roseanne Barr is a poster child for anything, she’s a poster child for cultural brokenness,” French writes. Barr is batty even by internet standards, French points out, as she’s a birther, a 9/11 truther, and every other form of -er. “First, ABC shouldn’t have brought her back. She was, quite obviously, one of the more toxic and troubled personalities in American public life,” French writes. “Second, Trump World shouldn’t have embraced her new show.”


Remember when President Trump called Roseanne to congratulate her on her ratings? I know that Republicans are starved for Republican-friendly television, but can we ever reach a time when the stakes are low enough to draw lines based on character? I know people voted for the low-character president because of the Flight 93 election and all that. I know folks turned out for Roy Moore because of judges. But where’s the sitcom emergency necessitating the love for Roseanne?


French then addressed the residual question that simmers on the right: What about the other side?


Third, hypocrisy and double standards abound. So, where are the lines for acceptable speech? Even now, Twitter is lighting up with examples of progressive celebrities saying terrible things and keeping their jobs. ESPN is expanding Keith Olbermann’s role at the network despite a Twitter feed full of hysterical, profane insults and unhinged commentary. Fire one celebrity and you can dredge up six more who’ve posted their own deranged rants. At the same time, does the Right really want to turn Roseanne into a poster child of political persecution? We all know that progressives get more grace than conservatives, but where does Roseanne fit? We’re left with a mess. To argue that companies should err on the side of free speech — as I do all the time — is not to argue that companies can’t have any standards at all.

“I’m not troubled by Roseanne’s termination,” French concludes. “Sometimes, a story fits no one’s political narrative cleanly. Sometimes, the story is the confusion and brokenness of our times.”


In the Weekly Standard Jonathan Last writes in his post “Trumpism Corrupts: Roseanne Edition” that Roseanne wasn’t a conservative, and conservatives should have known better than to be seduced into vouching for her just because her fictional character at times resembled them. “[T]he seduction of Roseanne is understandable,” Last writes. “It was a sitcom that got people to pay attention because it treated Red America Trump voters as normal (-ish) human beings. People on the right were desperate to see Republican types portrayed with any sort of sympathy by Hollywood. And so, they latched onto her, and her show, despite the fact that Roseanne Barr isn’t any sort of conservative. They should have known better, because Roseanne isn’t just ‘not any sort of conservative.’ She is, at best, a vulgarian and, at worst, a cretin.”


Last also links the intellectual and moral drift of Roseanne viewers to that of Trump voters:

You start out thinking, Hey, this is kind of sketchy. But then you see the overnight numbers and you forget all about crotch-grabbing and conspiracy theories. But that stuff never really goes away. So eventually, Roseanne is calling Valerie Jarrett a Muslim Dr. Zaius and then conservatives find themselves defending her brave free speech or whatever. (And by the by, the Valerie Jarrett comment was only the second-worst thing she said today.) In that way, Roseanne was a lot like Trumpism. You start out thinking, I know he’s said some weird stuff and has a shady past, but illegal immigration is a real problem! And the next thing you know, you’re defending a president who plays footsy with white supremacists and accuses a former president of—literal—treason.


Just because Trump attracts freaks like Roseanne Barr, Ted Nugent, Kanye West, or James Woods to him like flies to cow pies doesn't mean mainstream, lifelong conservatives want them on "their side."
 

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If there's been one bright spot for me during the nightmare of Trump's presidency, it's been watching the most unexpected (at least to me) players step into the arena of political public discourse and just kill it.

Teen Vogue, the OED, Tic-Tac USA, Sanofi... who's next?
 

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If there's been one bright spot for me during the nightmare of Trump's presidency, it's been watching the most unexpected (at least to me) players step into the arena of political public discourse and just kill it.

Teen Vogue, the OED, Tic-Tac USA, Sanofi... who's next?

The other dictionaries! M-W and pals crack me up repeatedly w/their responses to his word salad and nonsense.
 

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Oops! Merriam Webster was actually the one I was thinking of (put OED by mistake), but it looks like other dictionaries have joined the fray to varying degrees, too. Good on them!
 

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Everyone has lines in the sand. Mine include: anyone who compares a black person to an ape is racist, Anyone who pretends not to know why this is racist, is racist. Arguing "but they said that Trump was the lovechild of an orangutan!" means you are a racist. You also think other people are stupid enough not to understand why there is a different, which makes you stupid.
 

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Dictionary.com trolled her as well.

The name Ambien is thought to come from the word "ambient" or similar words in French. Ambient does not mean "prone to making racist comments," but it does mean "of the surrounding area or environment."

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