Wolf & Raven Publishing

I would also like to know. They liked one of my pitches, but when I went to their website, they have no authors or anything. I'm debating whether to submit to them or not. I'm not opposed to indie publishing, and I know companies have to start somewhere, but I'm not sure.

Still poking about, but I found their FB page and this caught my eye. It's dated May 1st: "The submission window is now open. If you have a YA, NA, Adult novel of 20,000 to 130,000 words in the genres Sci-Fi/Fantasy (and all subgenres), Historical Fiction/Alternate History, or Horror...." Isn't 20k words a little short to be considered a novel? I admit to being a complete and total dinosaur, one who's fairly unfamiliar with e-pubs, but 20K? https://www.facebook.com/wolfravenpublishing/?pnref=lhc

FluffBunny said:

Still poking about, but I found their FB page and this caught my eye. It's dated May 1st: "The submission window is now open. If you have a YA, NA, Adult novel of 20,000 to 130,000 words in the genres Sci-Fi/Fantasy (and all subgenres), Historical Fiction/Alternate History, or Horror...." Isn't 20k words a little short to be considered a novel? I admit to being a complete and total dinosaur, one who's fairly unfamiliar with e-pubs, but 20K? https://www.facebook.com/wolfravenpublishing/?pnref=lhc

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Yeah, I think 20k still passes for a novella. I always assumed 50k+ was novel length. Maybe they accept novellas too? But then I'd think they would say that.

Still poking. Their domain name registration comes back to a Dawn Price who isn't listed under the "Who We Are" on their webpage, though a Amara Nicole Price is. The registrant address comes back to what appears to be a home in Bethel, Ohio and I'm unable to locate an Ohio business by that name (searching "Wolf and Raven", "Wolf & Raven", "WolfandRaven", "Wolf&Raven", etc.). That's assuming, of course, that they are licensed to do business in the same state as the domain registrant. No other physical location info is available on their website (or I missed it. Totally possible after a long day at work.) Also, they list an "independent editor we like". Clicking the link for said editor, takes you to their FB page where their fees are listed as:
"UNDER 100K- £250 (GBP OR GBP EQUIVALENT)
OVER 100K- £300 (GBP OR GBP EQUIVALENT)
AN UPFRONT PAYMENT OF 50% IS EXPECTED IN FULL BEFORE EDITING BEGINS AND AFTER THE SIGNING OF AN NDA AGREEMENT PROTECTING THE AUTHOR'S WORK. (Should you as the author want one of course) THE REMAINING 50% OF THE EDITING FEE SHOULD BE PAID IN FULL BEFORE RECEIVING THE FINAL CHAPTER EDIT VIA EMAIL." (caps in the original)

Continuing the poke-age.

A bit late to the party, but this publisher is shuttered from what I can tell. Received a full MS request last month, this month their web presence has completely vanished - social media, website, etc.

argossol said:

A bit late to the party, but this publisher is shuttered from what I can tell. Received a full MS request last month, this month their web presence has completely vanished - social media, website, etc.

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Did you send it to them?

The first ten pages, yes. I was a bit excited anyone had wanted to see any of the novel, but a bit of research made me scrub the follow-up.

Shortly after that, I received a full request from another small publisher - Curiosity Quills. I'm cautiously optimistic.