When did "based on" become "based off"?

Sonsofthepharaohs · Apr 10, 2016

Roxxsmom said:
I'm still trying to figure out how and when "explodes" became "asplodes," for instance. The first time I ran across it (playing WoW a few years back)., I assumed the person didn't know how to spell explodes, and my fingers twitched. But I've seen it often enough now to know there's got to be a reason for it, probably some pop culture reference I missed.

That's just one of those intentional misspellings, like when I write it 'bunneh' instead of bunny. I do believe 'asplode' is mimicking a hispanic accent, but I have no idea why or where it came from. I just saw it once and thought it was silleh, and I likes me some silleh :greenie

rchapman1 said:
Kallithrix is right - they are definitely American English! The other one that really annoys me is when they write fit instead of fitted, i.e. it fit me.

Or 'drug' instead of dragged. That just grates on my braincells.

Albedo · Apr 10, 2016

rchapman1 said:
Kallithrix is right - they are definitely American English! The other one that really annoys me is when they write fit instead of fitted, i.e. it fit me.

To me, 'fit' is a slightly different verb to 'fitted'.

'My tailor fitted my pants well.'
'My pants fit me well.'

Sorta like the difference between 'hanged' and 'hung'.

Layla Nahar · Apr 11, 2016

My pet peeves have been 'different than' and now 'different to' and another one is using 'around' for 'about' - as in 'what are your thoughts around that?'

tiakall · Apr 11, 2016

neandermagnon said:
Meanwhile I was gobsmacked to learn that American English doesn't have the word "dodgy"

Really? We're talking about something that seems suspicious or flaky, right? (e.g., that dodgy vanity press) I've seen it among Americans.

The one that really drives me batty is people using "insure" when they mean "ensure". Are you taking out a monetary policy in case of its failure? I don't mind it as much in informal conversation, but I see professional copy that does this!

Dennis E. Taylor · Apr 11, 2016

"should of" as in "You should of done that." I've seen that in company correspondence.

A lot of these things are caused by people who transcribe verbal communications phonetically.

KTC · Apr 11, 2016

Even people on writing boards use the language incorrectly. I wouldn't go hauling out the 'based off of' for your own personal use too quickly.

Chase · Apr 11, 2016

tiakall said:
The one that really drives me batty is people using "insure" when they mean "ensure".

True story of my first edit for hire. Back in the early '90s when this company was a home shop, the instructions for their pricey matches container read: ". . .to insure no explosion . . .

I wrote them a note explaining "ensure" was a better spelling for their meaning, and they sent me a free canister with ENSURE engraved on it.

KTC · Apr 11, 2016

Angry Guy said:
"should of" as in "You should of done that." I've seen that in company correspondence.

A lot of these things are caused by people who transcribe verbal communications phonetically.

And by people who don't care enough about language to even have a clue that they're getting it wrong.

WriterBN · Apr 11, 2016

neandermagnon said:
This use of "off of" is a British colloquialism. It becomes "offa" in some dialects, e.g. "get it offa me!". It's not new at all. It might not even be limited to British dialects, but I don't recall ever hearing Americans use it.

I hear and read it all the time, and I've lived in several different parts of the US.

KTC · Apr 11, 2016

The ones that are causing me the biggest headache at the moment are the end-of-sentence fillers that people put into their conversation. I swear, if I start to see it between dialogue tags I'm moving to an island of solitariness.

AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

Samsonet · Apr 11, 2016

But, y'know, seriously. Like, there's a difference between formal English for essays and using the right words in a voicey manuscript, lol!

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BethS · Apr 11, 2016

neandermagnon said:
To me, one-to-one and one-on-one don't mean the same thing. One-to-one would be a conversation involving only two people, usually about something private or secret, or at least implying that they don't want anyone else to be present. One-on-one suggests a contest or fight where two people compete or fight against each other without help from anyone else.

Exactly.

BethS · Apr 11, 2016

rchapman1 said:
Kallithrix is right - they are definitely American English! The other one that really annoys me is when they write fit instead of fitted, i.e. it fit me.

Sorry, it's standard US usage. :greenie

Dictionary says either is fine.

Roxxsmom · Apr 11, 2016

Layla Nahar said:
My pet peeves have been 'different than' and now 'different to' and another one is using 'around' for 'about' - as in 'what are your thoughts around that?'

I looked this up a while back. Different than and different from are both heavily used in the U.S., while different to and different from are both heavily used in the U.K.

As for around for about, I've certainly encountered this usage un the U.S. "I'll be there around eight." I never thought of it as wrong. Feels like standardized colloquial speech to me. I'd say it's more common than saying, "I'll be there about eight."

BenPanced · Apr 11, 2016

Roxxsmom said:
Idioms are strange, and problems arise when someone unfamiliar as such tries to correct the grammar or stylistic elements therein.

I'm still trying to figure out how and when "explodes" became "asplodes," for instance. The first time I ran across it (playing WoW a few years back)., I assumed the person didn't know how to spell explodes, and my fingers twitched. But I've seen it often enough now to know there's got to be a reason for it, probably some pop culture reference I missed.

Kallithrix said:
That's just one of those intentional misspellings, like when I write it 'bunneh' instead of bunny. I do believe 'asplode' is mimicking a hispanic accent, but I have no idea why or where it came from. I just saw it once and thought it was silleh, and I likes me some silleh

The first time I encountered "asplodes" for "explodes" was on the semi-retired Homestar Runner site. There's a game called
"Strongbad Zone", a parody of the early 3D line arcade games based around the character Strongbad. When your base gets shot, Strongbad's head appears and says "Your head a splode", with the words appearing on screen. Over the years, it's morphed into "asplode".

KTC said:
Even people on writing boards use the language incorrectly. I wouldn't go hauling out the 'based off of' for your own personal use too quickly.

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When did "based on" become "based off"?

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When did "based on" become "based off"?

Still writing the ancient Egyptian tetralogy

Alex

Seashell Seller

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Get it off! It burns!

Stand in the Place Where You Live

It Takes All of Us to End Racism

Stand in the Place Where You Live

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