Let's talk hair!

I read something about it on Twitter and went, "Seriously??" Also, lame apology is lame.

Sunflowerrei said:

I've been following this thread, but haven't had much to add, and I hadn't heard of Zendaya before this popped up on my homepage this morning, but Zendaya's statement reminded me of the things y'all have been discussing.

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The most I know about Zendaya is she sang that one addictive song (Replay).

Her statement is incredibly mature, though. What a woman.

Kuwi,

My hair is thick, wavy, and prone to frizz; however, straightening my hair seems to cut the 'volume' of my hair by half. I haven't found anything other than straightening that will work with the volume issue my hair has. I tried layers, which made me look like the chick from Dilbert. I tried short hair, which made me look like a poodle. I tried thinning, which made a lot of hair fall to the ground but my hair didn't seem to condense at all.

The major problem with straightening hair is that it will damage your hair fast. I wash + condition, blow dry, and straighten my hair once a week. Going a week between washes seems to repair the damage that the blow drying does to my hair. If I'm feeling lazy (which happens often), I keep my hair in braids between washes.

Also, the longer you wait between hair washes, the more protein can buildup on your ends and the healthier your hair will be. I have to shower every day too, so I keep my hair in a bun so it won't get wet. That and I am way too lazy to re-straighten my hair if the water makes it frizz back up.

I'm overdue for a haircut though. Been almost nine months since my last cut and the current length is tedious to straighten -- about two hours.

ViridianChick said:

The most I know about Zendaya is she sang that one addictive song (Replay).

Her statement is incredibly mature, though. What a woman.

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This is probably going to sound horrible but the only thing that shocked me about all of this is a news item revealed Zendaya actually has a last name. Even in this "enlightened" day and age, I am not surprised one iota that somebody is making such ignorant and uninformed comments about somebody else's hair.

I kind of got the opposite from those stupid comments about Zendaya's hair. I think the E! woman didn't realize Zendaya was Black and was making a hippy joke. It's really stupid nowadays to assume you know someone's racial background without more info than surface looks, so it's still really dumb.

Meanwhile, after looking at all kinds of pictures of her hair, I found my closest celebrity hair twin yet! That is if hers curls or frizzes with humidity (without a shit-ton of product), but I bet it does seeing her curly and less styled pics. I like her curly best I wish I knew what she used to have her curls look so great.

Gretad08 said:

Kuwi, try Moroccan oil. My sister owns a salon, so I get to try a ton of products. I have a lot of hair. I'm blonde, and my hair is extremely thick, but fine, if that makes sense. When I use Moroccan oil after a proper blow dry, it just lays better, and has better movement. Plus it smells really good. I recommend getting the good stuff from a salon though. At least a small bottle or a sample to give it a try.

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Do you mean argan oil?

It is useful for a shit-ton of stuff (good in skin products too, AND it's tasty!) and also -- we visited a place where they make it in Morocco. It was like a collective, and women who are widowed etc and would otherwise not be allowed to work (due to cultural restrictions) help produce it and share in the profits, and so can support their families. So you're helping people too! Well, you are if you get it from them anyway....but our understanding* was this is a common way for those otherwise unable to get an income to...get an income


* They spoke French and Arabic, we speak English and, at best, broken French. But with schoolboy verbs and much sign language...

Mr Flibble said:

Do you mean argan oil?

It is useful for a shit-ton of stuff (good in skin products too, AND it's tasty!) and also -- we visited a place where they make it in Morocco. It was like a collective, and women who are widowed etc and would otherwise not be allowed to work (due to cultural restrictions) help produce it and share in the profits, and so can support their families. So you're helping people too! Well, you are if you get it from them anyway....but our understanding* was this is a common way for those otherwise unable to get an income to...get an income


* They spoke French and Arabic, we speak English and, at best, broken French. But with schoolboy verbs and much sign language...

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I just checked my bottle. It says Moroccan oil, but the description on the back says Argan oil, made in Israel. So I guess it's the same thing. I LOVE this stuff. It's oil, but doesn't leave your hair greasy, and smells soooo good. My hair is healthier since I started using it. I use a lot of heat on my hair, so I feel like this helps nourish it a bit.

Gretad08 said:

I just checked my bottle. It says Moroccan oil, but the description on the back says Argan oil, made in Israel. So I guess it's the same thing. I LOVE this stuff. It's oil, but doesn't leave your hair greasy, and smells soooo good. My hair is healthier since I started using it. I use a lot of heat on my hair, so I feel like this helps nourish it a bit.

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No it's (I know this sounds weird) a "dry" oil. Fabulous for so many things -- I'm suffering badly with eczema atm and it really helps. It's really good for your skin

PS as an oil, it tastes really nutty. Scrummy on the breakfasts in Morocco. Nom nom. I think that's a different grade of oil though (could be wrong)

Lillith1991 said:

I think the E! woman is an idiot if she didn't realize Zendaya was Black or possibly Hispanic, even though the second one would be wrong. Im not much darker than Zendaya is and I'm also mixed, and BOTH Obama and Shemar Moor are mixed and way darker than me or Zendaya. If she mistaked her for anything other than POC of some sort then she obviously doesn't know enough POC, especially mixed White-Black ones.

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I was thinking she might have thought Latina. Zendaya's hair is so straight in so many pictures that I think she didn't realize that was her hair was quite curly really.and that the hairstyle was no kind of an 'alternative' sort of fashion statement.

The patchouli and weed thing makes me think she was making fun of it as being counter-culture. It can't be counter-culture if she knew she was Black, lol

Lillith1991 said:

I think the E! woman is an idiot if she didn't realize Zendaya was Black or possibly Hispanic, even though the second one would be wrong. Im not much darker than Zendaya is and I'm also mixed, and BOTH Obama and Shemar Moor are mixed and way darker than me or Zendaya. If she mistaked her for anything other than POC of some sort then she obviously doesn't know enough POC, especially mixed White-Black ones.

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backslashbaby said:

I was thinking she might have thought Latina. Zendaya's hair is so straight in so many pictures that I think she didn't realize that was her hair was quite curly really.and that the hairstyle was no kind of an 'alternative' sort of fashion statement.

The patchouli and weed thing makes me think she was making fun of it as being counter-culture. It can't be counter-culture if she knew she was Black, lol

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She probably thought locs = Rastafarian = weed + patchouli. Because anybody who wears dreadlocks, including white people, are all into de ganja, mon.

Argan oil is fabulous for any kind of hair. I have sad old white woman hair, and it's only tamed by Argan oil conditioner.

Hey. I'm sure this is a stupid question, but it's bugging me. Someone in another thread said something about how not all black women have kinky hair and it's wrong to assume they do.

They don't? Google has failed me. I know there's a lot of variation when it comes to texture, tightness, and volume, but I didn't realize black women could have naturally straight/wavyhair.

EDIT: or does "kinky" refer to a very specific kind of hair?

This video does a good job (I think) a good job of discussing cultural appropriation of Black culture, including a discussion of hair.

http://www.makers.com/blog/%E2%80%9Chunger-games%E2%80%9D-star-perfectly-explains-cultural-appropriation